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#21
icarus88 said:
as far as I understand focusrite, the sound level is low
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That seems a little too inclusive of focusrite products. I had one of their simpler interfaces for a while. I don't remember the model, but it has an input adjustment that let the gain be whatever you needed. Up to and including way too much input!
I was happy with the focusrite I had but ended up selling it because my mixing board gave up the ghost and it's replacement included good onboard USB recording. Having both the mixing board USB input and the focusrite was redundant.
Maybe go through an make sure you have enough input feeding the focusrite. Look for any -dB PAD switches in your chain. That can dampen the signal in a hurry!
 
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Wfrance3 said:
That seems a little too inclusive of focusrite products. I had one of their simpler interfaces for a while. I don't remember the model, but it has an input adjustment that let the gain be whatever you needed. Up to and including way too much input!
I was happy with the focusrite I had but ended up selling it because my mixing board gave up the ghost and it's replacement included good onboard USB recording. Having both the mixing board USB input and the focusrite was redundant.
Maybe go through an make sure you have enough input feeding the focusrite. Look for any -dB PAD switches in your chain. That can dampen the signal in a hurry!
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just the guitar, a pedal with cab sim and an xlr connection
 
#25
I’m not sure where you gain structure issue is your current interface should work just fine.
Theses are the 2 interfaces I have that I plug a passive bass into with no issue.

Onyx Producer 2•2 | 2x2 USB Interface with MIDI - MACKIE | MACKIE

Choose the reliable Onyx series and try Mackie s Onyx Producer 2 ��2, a 2x2 USB interface with midi that gives you the power to deliver your best performance.
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ProFX6v3 6-Channel Analog Mixer with USB - MACKIE | MACKIE

Designed for musicians and creators who want high-resolution audio, the Mackie ProFX6v3 is a professional analog USB mixer with award-winning Onyx mic preamps.
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#26
icarus88 said:
I am aware of the noise,I recorded via pedal (xlr)

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So, I listened to the file. The noise you mentioned is certainly a problem. In fact, it's a far greater problem than any concerns over level into your DAW. Ignoring the noise as best I could, I was able to make the bass portion of your file perfectly audible in headphones and through my phone's speaker (iPhone 11 Pro Max). The bigger concern was just how much extraneous noise was occupying the bandwidth of your recording. I would address that immediately through whatever means are necessary, and after that I would do some studying on signal levels in a digital environment to better understand what you actually need as there doesn't appear to be anything wrong in terms of level when listening to this example.
 
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silky smoove said:
So, I listened to the file. The noise you mentioned is certainly a problem. In fact, it's a far greater problem than any concerns over level into your DAW. Ignoring the noise as best I could, I was able to make the bass portion of your file perfectly audible in headphones and through my phone's speaker (iPhone 11 Pro Max). The bigger concern was just how much extraneous noise was occupying the bandwidth of your recording. I would address that immediately through whatever means are necessary, and after that I would do some studying on signal levels in a digital environment to better understand what you actually need as there doesn't appear to be anything wrong in terms of level when listening to this example.
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When I record without the pedal the sound is muddy but the noise is much less.There is a ground lift button on the pedal but it doesn't work, (it reduces the noise a little)

I will take some precautions for this, noise suppressor and using the laptop with battery, I will change all the equipment in the future. I am just collecting information.I'm just looking for ways to make the bass volume louder. Thanks.
 
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icarus88 said:
When I record without the pedal the sound is muddy but the noise is much less.There is a ground lift button on the pedal but it doesn't work, (it reduces the noise a little)

I will take some precautions for this, noise suppressor and using the laptop with battery, I will change all the equipment in the future. I am just collecting information.I'm just looking for ways to make the bass volume louder. Thanks.
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What device is between the bass and the Focusrite?
If you are using XLR to connect the device to the Focusrite, is the 48V button on?
Which setting is the Line/Inst switch on?
Where is the Gain knob set?

Try connecting the bass directly to the Focusrite. Does the noise get better or worse? Does the signal get higher or lower? What happens if you toggle the Line/Inst switch?
 
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ardgedee said:
What device is between the bass and the Focusrite?
If you are using XLR to connect the device to the Focusrite, is the 48V button on?
Which setting is the Line/Inst switch on?
Where is the Gain knob set?

Try connecting the bass directly to the Focusrite. Does the noise get better or worse? Does the signal get higher or lower? What happens if you toggle the Line/Inst switch?
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Joyo monomyth with poopy chinese ac adapter, master volume at pedal is %80, high frequencies off, low frequencies at %90
48v button off
Interface gain is at %90
I don't use inst input, xlr connection,I thought an xlr cable would help reduce the noise a bit.

I actually adjusted the tone to my liking.


If I don't use the pedal the tone gets muddy but the noise gets reduced.


Noise problem: I have a refrigerator next to me, guitar has no humbucker,the pedal's adapter is an AC adapter and it's crappy, the laptop has no battery, I think it's also the house's grounding problem
 
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You say the recorded bass track is not loud when played via the phone speakers? Could the problem be that the phone speakers just don't reproduce low frequency bass notes, so it sounds weak and quiet? If it sounds better when played through headphones, that might be your problem. You phone speakers just can't reproduce extended low frequencies. I have that issue with a laptop. When playing a recording through the laptop speakers, you would be hard pressed to even think there is a bass in the mix. I would assume that phone speakers are optimized for intelligible voice phone calls, this voiced to be very midrange with limited lows and highs.
 
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bwildt said:
You say the recorded bass track is not loud when played via the phone speakers? Could the problem be that the phone speakers just don't reproduce low frequency bass notes, so it sounds weak and quiet? If it sounds better when played through headphones, that might be your problem. You phone speakers just can't reproduce extended low frequencies. I have that issue with a laptop. When playing a recording through the laptop speakers, you would be hard pressed to even think there is a bass in the mix. I would assume that phone speakers are optimized for intelligible voice phone calls, this voiced to be very midrange with limited lows and highs.
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I watched a few cover videos on YouTube, the bass is very loud even on the phone speaker, I'm just looking for how they do this
 
#34
icarus88 said:
I watched a few cover videos on YouTube, the bass is very loud even on the phone speaker, I'm just looking for how they do this
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in addition to putting a limiter on the main out, maybe you can find places to add EQ to the bass and other tracks so they don't overlap as much. Like with EQ8's HPF or a low res Autofter, you could remove unnecessary bass content from some of the other tracks, allowing the bass to stand out more. Sometimes I'll put a guitar-shaped dent in my bass's midrange too, just to give a little separation. the visualizer in Ableton's EQ8 is really helpful for that.
 
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5stringedfrenzy said:
in addition to putting a limiter on the main out, maybe you can find places to add EQ to the bass and other tracks so they don't overlap as much. Like with EQ8's HPF or a low res Autofter, you could remove unnecessary bass content from some of the other tracks, allowing the bass to stand out more. Sometimes I'll put a guitar-shaped dent in my bass's midrange too, just to give a little separation. the visualizer in Ableton's EQ8 is really helpful for that.
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very technical
 
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icarus88 said:
I don't use inst input, xlr connection,I thought an xlr cable would help reduce the noise a bit.
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The Line/Inst switch is simply a pad, you can experiment with it no matter how you plug your instrument in. "Line" is maybe -6dB relative to "Inst". If the input switch is on "Line", change it to "Inst".

If the Joyo is adding so much noise, you won't be able to fix it with a different interface. Either find a way to isolate the Joyo from electric and ambient noise or stop using it.

If the bass' tone is inherently muddy, the Joyo pedal is processing that muddy tone to get a sound you like. You can plug the bass directly into the interface and replicate what the Joyo pedal is doing from within your DAW, and it should be less noisy.
 
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icarus88 said:
very technical
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Those and the volume faders are some of your most essential mixing tools. It can be intimidating, but there's a definite logic to it. Try taking these sentences one at a time with your Ableton project open:
To begin, put one of Ableton's EQ8 devices on each track.
Look at the graphic display that shows the frequency content of each track (on the EQ8 plugin, press the little arrow at top to expand).
With those shapes as a reference, you can go from track to track making small eq cuts so the shapes on the displays don't overlap as much.
This is also exactly what it's doing to your sounds, so the mix will often get cleaner.
Now adjust your volume faders again.
 
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Before you purchase an interface, go look at Julian Krause's YT channel. Well thought out and presented, AND backed up with excellent measurements.

Even modest interfaces these days are truly excellent performers and spending muchos $ will only get you very modest performance increases most of which will not be audible in real world use, and not in a mix.
 
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#39
My records are never as loud as this. I don't know how much my guitar has an effect on this situation.Maybe it's because my guitar isn't good enough.because the body wood and pickup have a big impact on the tone

 
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