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I am finally caught up with this thread, simply amazing.

Tom, often you had written about perceiving this as a Coda. I had thought about responding, on how you should look at it as more of a Bridge. Then I read the following.

"A swan song is apparently on the verge of becoming whatever the opposite of a swan song is. A phoenix song?"

I don't believe I have ever followed someone's thoughts coalesce with such clarity on the internet before. It is rare enough in real life.

Keep listening to your ghosts, I prefer calling them spirits, as they guide you along the path.

Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much.

That really is a good way of looking at it. There's a great line in the film Jacob's Ladder, which is about acceptance and letting go of fear and anger. The hero is talking to his massage therapist about his fear of dying, and the massage therapist--played by an enigmatic Danny Aiello--says:

"If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth."

Ghost can become spirits, if you've made your peace with them.
 
Thank you very much.

That really is a good way of looking at it. There's a great line in the film Jacob's Ladder, which is about acceptance and letting go of fear and anger. The hero is talking to his massage therapist about his fear of dying, and the massage therapist--played by an enigmatic Danny Aiello--says:

"If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth."

Ghost can become spirits, if you've made your peace with them.


That was one messsssssed up movie. A great movie as well. I need to watch that again.
 
Speaking of messed up movies, you referenced another one several pages back by using the term "gaslight". Ingrid Bergman, one of my favorite actors, starred in Gaslight as a woman who was made to believe she was going insane.

Did your former editor's really go out of their way to make you think you were the one that lost touch with your audience, or were they just imposing their dominance and making you nuts was just a by-product?

I am really enjoying your stories! This thread has been a very entertaining read. Welcome to the community!
 
Speaking of messed up movies, you referenced another one several pages back by using the term "gaslight". Ingrid Bergman, one of my favorite actors, starred in Gaslight as a woman who was made to believe she was going insane.

Did your former editor's really go out of their way to make you think you were the one that lost touch with your audience, or were they just imposing their dominance and making you nuts was just a by-product?

I am really enjoying your stories! This thread has been a very entertaining read. Welcome to the community!
Thanks very much.

Tonight I had a long conversation with my brother about that very topic. He lives in a big old house that he allowed me to share with him rent free when I wrote for Bass Player, which allowed me to pursue my career in music journalism without having a real day job. I'd tried that in San Francisco, serving as a document-retrieval agent (finding and copying legal documents for lawyers to use in court cases) by day and writing at night.

Didn't work.

So I moved down here and lived with my brother in his house, which is big enough that we didn't get in each other's hair very often, and I followed my dreams.

He told me tonight that he remembers the phone calls and the arguing with the editors each time an article was killed or butchered. He reminded me that once I was assigned an interview I didn't want to do; I ended up having a great conversation with a person I was sure I'd hate; and then the editors chopped the article down to a few paragraphs, cutting out all the material they'd told me they wanted to get in the first place, which was the very stuff that made me initially refuse the assignment.

And on top of that, they changed my title and made it seem as though I were mocking this bassist who took an hour out of his life to talk to me and graciously answered my very challenging--though not hostile--questions. They made him look like an idiot, and they made me look like the biggest pr*ck on the face of the earth.

If that isn't gaslighting, I don't know what is. My brother took lots of courses in psychology and has read every book by the brilliant Swiss psychiatrist Alice Miller. He's told me many times that I've been a target all my life because it's impossible for me to hide my feelings, so he says it was both of your premises: They had to assert their dominance as bosses, and they also got off on driving me crazy.

Those two editors were the only bad bosses I've never been able to handle. I've had horrible bosses, but I was always able to figure out how to make them happy by letting them assert their authoriteh. It was no skin off my nose.

These were the only two bosses I've ever had who seemed determined to drive me out of the organization. As I said before, I've only realized since beginning this thread that it was my fault for sticking around. But I honestly didn't know why my career was failing, and it made me so angry that I stayed at the magazine out of a sense of injustice and fought a hopeless battle in which my opponents weren't even bothered by my rage. They were amused!

I'm sure neither of those two guys has given me a moment's thought in the past however many years. It was a complete waste of time on my part. All I can say in my defense is that I honestly believed that I was an asset to the magazine, a serious music journalist who had a lot to offer.
 
I suppose it would be much too much to even fantasize that those editors would be clued in to this discussion and see themselves as the contemptuous creatures they are, let alone be contrite and realize what they missed in terms of a writer who had so much to offer and an ethic that they each sorely lacked. On top of that, would they hold themselves responsible for diminishing the bass-playing world by their crass actions? Probably not, I'm guessing.

I am SO looking forward to the book...!
 
I am happy to announce that my memoirs will be published by Schiffer Books, Ltd. I just received confirmation a few minutes ago. It's very unusual for a publisher to approve a book before reading a formal proposal. That's how much confidence they have in the concept.

The book will be titled Ghosts and Ballyhoo: Memoirs of a Failed L.A. Music Journalist.

I owe it all to the people here who persuaded me to do it. It will contain material that you won't believe. What I've posted here is just the tip of the iceberg.

In a few days I'm going to have to devote all my time to putting up a Web site, Facebook account, and Flickr stream to promote my trilogy of World War I flamethrower books, and then I'll have to get cracking on Ghosts and Ballyhoo.

So, if you have any questions about anything I've written, now's the time to get them in. I'll still be around, and I'll still get PMs from here, but I won't be able to post any more stories. When we get close to a publication date of Ghosts, I'll contact Talkbass to see if we can work out a way to let everybody know, since this forum is 100 percent responsible for making this book happen. The people who run Talkbass ought to be proud of the quality of the posters here. Thanks, too, Talkbass, for making this a sticky and for letting me ramble on for as long as I did. This has been an unbelievable turn of events, and I owe it to you and your readership.

I'd honestly decided to never write about music again, because it was too sad and depressing. I just wanted to get a few things off my chest here before I finally closed the door. I thought this would be about a six-post thread, with a couple of comments along the lines of "Cool story, bro," and then I'd move on.

Ghosts and Ballyhoo
will be unflinching, but it'll also be funny as hell. No self pity whatsoever. I've already written a general outline, and I have the best editor in the world reading this thread to begin the process of pointing me in the right direction.

Hi, Jason! Thanks!

I'd planned to end this thread with my Kiss story and a couple other bass gems, but I hope you understand that I have to save them for the book. They're really excellent.

Thanks again for your encouragement. Ghosts and Ballyhoo would never have been written if it weren't for you. Thanks to everyone who contacted me by PM. I'll still be available there.

So, if you have any questions, I have a few days to answer them. Any comments or questions from any other music journalists are welcome.

You won't be disappointed in the book. It's going to be like nothing you've ever seen.
 
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I'm simultaneously sad that this thread is reaching its inevitable end and overjoyed at the thought of ultimately reading Ghosts and Ballyhoo. You don't need to thank us, Tom - we need to thank you for giving us ringside seats at the first performance of your phoenix song. Though I'll have to invoice you for all the billable hours I spent reading this tread, since what you've given us here is priceless ;).

Congrats, and thanks again. I know you'll keep us all posted on your progress.

-Y
 
I suppose it would be much too much to even fantasize that those editors would be clued in to this discussion and see themselves as the contemptuous creatures they are, let alone be contrite and realize what they missed in terms of a writer who had so much to offer and an ethic that they each sorely lacked. On top of that, would they hold themselves responsible for diminishing the bass-playing world by their crass actions? Probably not, I'm guessing.

I am SO looking forward to the book...!
I found out last night that Bass Player is fully aware of this thread. I can't tell you the context, because that would be breaking a confidence, but I need to confirm to the person who wrote to me last night that there was no malice in my posting any of this. I had to write it, and I have to write Ghosts and Ballyhoo. I go back to the quote by one of my favorite painters, Otto Dix: "Painting is an act of banishment."

I had to banish this. I'll make it clear in my memoirs that what happened was as much my fault as anybody else's, because of my stubborn refusal to face reality. I've paid the price, believe me. If anyone from Bass Player reading this thinks that I'm somehow having the last laugh, remember that because I let myself boil with anger for as long as I did, I blew up my immune system. I may be disabled for the rest of my life by Meniere's disease. It's too early to know.

When my memoirs are published, I won't be able to travel to promote them. So, if anyone from Bass Player is wishing me ill (not the person who contacted me last night), don't worry: I'm there. I'm ill. Believe me, you don't want to be walking in my shoes. And I did it all to myself. There's no doubt. Don't waste your time putting a curse on my head. It's already happened.

But what I've written about and will write about in the future are factual events. They occurred. I bear no individual any personal animus, which is why I haven't named them and will not name them in Ghosts and Ballyhoo. This is the story of my life as a failed music journalist. Note that phrase: failed music journalist. I failed, so I get to write about it as I see fit.

And, my sense of justice requires that I tell my story without sugarcoating it. Not out of vengeance, but to honor and commemorate the person I once was, who at the time thought he was a huge asset to the magazine and who wanted nothing more than to keep writing for Bass Player forever.

I hated the L.A. cesspool, but I loved my job. I'd finally found something I was good at. I owe it to my younger, more naive self to tell his story, because that man no longer exists. I'm a different person now.

To quote Stephen Crane "I have no complaint." Honestly. If you gave me a magic button that would let me go back and change everything, I wouldn't, because it was only through loss and despair that I finally became the person I'd always wanted to be.

The cost was high, and I'll try to convey that in Ghosts and Ballyhoo so that people don't make same mistakes I did.

I've been granted permission by Scott Thunes to make him a kind of Greek chorus in my memoirs, a regular presence whose own experiences will serve as a healthier, more grounded way of dealing with adversity. Bass Player allowed me to interview him and did a great job with the article, so I'll always be grateful to the magazine for playing its part in bringing this remarkable artist into my life.

I'm not angry anymore, Bass Player. But I can't downplay what happened. The past is the past, yes. However, I owe it to that younger, long-gone me to be painfully honest about how it all came about. It was my fault as much as yours, and I'll make sure that people who read the book understand that. I must relate the facts.

There's no need for any more anger. As I told the guy who wrote the letter to the editor that was the cruelest, most personal assault on me during my entire career at Bass Player, "Buy my book and all is forgiven."
 
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I'm simultaneously sad that this thread is reaching its inevitable end and overjoyed at the thought of ultimately reading Ghosts and Ballyhoo. You don't need to thank us, Tom - we need to thank you for giving us ringside seats at the first performance of your phoenix song. Though I'll have to invoice you for all the billable hours I spent reading this tread, since what you've given us here is priceless ;).

Congrats, and thanks again. I know you'll keep us all posted on your progress.

-Y

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Tom,

I can't wait to read your new book!

A thing that I've noticed is that this thread is a clear demonstation that you have the ability to capture and hold a reading audience. A fact that shouldn't be lost on an astute publisher.
Schiffer is fearless. That's why they thrive while others are cutting back. The people running the show there do it out of the love of books, not because they want to be a part of the horrifying left-coast, right-coast literary in-club.

This is exactly what it's like. Not the gay part, but everything else. I've been to parties like this. The good thing about Meniere's disease is that it'll prevent me from ever having to endure anything like that again. It isn't Schiffer's speed anyway. They're much more grounded and have an honest love for the art of writing. And I've been promised that the book will be completely affordable.

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