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Intonation Help

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by glasser_cannon, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. Hey guys, so I finally changed the strings on my Schecter Stiletto Elite 5 and now the low B is almost an entire quarter step out when it comes to intonation, and that's with the saddle extended as far as possible. Any ideas on how I could fix the intonation? I'm using D'addario XL Nickel Wound 50-135s
  2. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    Is it as far back as possible due to the screw won't turn any further, or because the spring is compressed where the saddle won't go back any further?

    If the spring is completely compressed, take it off, cut it in two with a pair of diagonal clippers, and reinstall half of the spring. This will get you a little more room.

    If it is because the intonation screw has bottomed out of the saddle, then you may have to trim the intonation screw, being careful not to foul the threads so it can be reinserted. This will also give you a little more backwards travel.

    If the intonation saddle is already up against the flange of the bride plate or back of the frame, then you may have to have the bridge repositioned.
  3. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Queens, NY
    Prior to doing anything, make sure your witness points are set on each string. Those are the points where the string comes off of the bridge saddle and off of the nut.
    You need a good break angle at those points so that the string is seated properly before you can move forward with any other concerns regarding intonation.
    Also assuming that you haven't changed string gauge and that the nut slots are cut correctly.

    After installing new strings and tuning them up to pitch, I like to pull on them a bit, in the direction directly away from the fretboard, to help stretch them
    so they settle down. Not too much, like a slingshot ;) Just enough to help them settle in.
    Then I re-tune to pitch and then just in front of the nut, exactly where the string comes off of the nut, and just in front of the bridge, where the string comes
    off of the saddle, I press down on the string, to help create a good, crisp witness point. This way, you know that the string is contacting the nut and bridge saddle
    properly and coming straight off of them in a straight, uniform line.

    If I were you, I would set the B string saddle back to its original position (assuming that the intonation was fine prior to changing the strings) and start from there.

    If you do a search on "witness point" you should find some good info. It's been talked about a lot.

    Hope that helps.
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  4. JLS


    Sep 12, 2008
    Emeryville, Ca
    I setup & repair guitars & basses
    !/4 tone sharp or flat?
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  5. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Thank you.....can't give the guy advice without this critical little bit of info...
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  6. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    Flat or the saddle could just be moved back. He says the saddle is fully extended.
  7. guy n. cognito

    guy n. cognito Secret Agent Member Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Never assume. A step "out"? "Extended?"
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  8. Tim Skaggs

    Tim Skaggs

    Sep 28, 2002
    Reply #3 from Gkon, 1st paragraph.
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  9. XontheP


    May 24, 2013
    Omaha, NE
    Can your B string be lowered? It may help to take it down as low as you can without causing buzz.

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