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Double Bass intros and outros

Tom Lane

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Apr 28, 2011
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I’ve been asking more advanced players and combo leaders for years about how to work intros and outros and I’ve never gotten a meaningful response. One year, in the summer workshop, I asked and the leader said “Oh, it’s just the same…” and then he was interrupted, distracted onto a new topic and we never returned to the question. After doing my research, I see what he meant. Hopefully, this document will explain how all of the members of a intermediate jazz combo can use intros and outros with the tunes they perform. I know I can rely on you folks to correct me if I misstate anything. Don will correct me even if I'm right! ;) Along the lines of the old joke: If I husband is home alone and makes a decision, is he still wrong?

There are five types of intros:

1. The last N bars of the tune

2. A turnaround

3. A vamp

4. A chord progression pattern

5. A composed fragment

From one view, they can all be boiled down to a turnaround because the last N bars of the tune ends in a turnaround, a vamp is just an endless turnaround until the melodist starts the tune, the chord progression pattern is some sort of disguised turnaround, and a composed fragment is again going to end in cadence to the first chord of the tune, so, a turnaround.

This makes our respective jobs straight forward. Drums mark time, bass can join in if we recognize the intro, but if not, we can safely pedal the fifth of the first chord of the tune and that will always work. Most of the work falls on the harmony player, the guitar, piano, or vibes, etc, because they have to actually pick the chord progression and realize it with pleasant voice leading. The melody players can either improvise a melody or not, so they can’t really screw up because they can always choose to lay out until they get the signal to start the melody of the tune.

More detail about each of these five. The last N bars depend on the tempo and type of the tune. For ballads, just the last two bars could be enough. For a brisk twelve-bar blues, you could play two entire choruses up front before starting the head. Moderate tempo standards could use four, eight, or sixteen bars depending on personal choice. In that case, it’s wise to call it, and say “last sixteen” and ensure all of the players hear and understand.

The turnaround intro is just that, any turnaround you like. Two beats each of one-six-two-five or three-six-two-five or something similar. An informal analysis concluded that around seventy percent of all tunes start on the tonic. About twenty percent start on the two-chord, and the last ten percent start on some other chord. A smart rule of thumb is to just check the first chord and target your turnaround to it. You can expand the time and play a measure of each chord instead of two beats, and then you can start substituting any of the chords with tritone subs, etc. So, three--flat-three--two--flat-two, for example.

Vamps are just never-ending turnarounds, or at least they don’t end until the melodist starts the head.

For the most part, a chord progression pattern is just a specialized turnaround. For example, in the key of D Minor, playing a bar each of Dm then Em, one-two. The two chord is replacing the four chord and a one-four chord progression is a plagal cadence, sometimes called the “Amen” cadence. A similar patten would be one-flat-two. In the key of D Minor, Dm then Ebm. The Ebm is a tritone sub for A7, so a “disguised” I V. One last example, in the key of C Major, might be C^ B- Bb^ A- Ab^ G7; a descending chromatic pattern.

Composed patterns have to have been composed beforehand but likely follow a similar turnaround function. I've posted examples below.

Outros are very similar to intros with the notable exception that in the case of outros, the melody instrument or vocalist can take the lead and decide the choice of the ending instead of the harmonist. In the case in which the melodist specifies the ending and didn’t do so before beginning the tune, some sort of signal or spoken name is wise but not strictly necessary because in the worst case, the harmony players lay out, the drums keep marking time and the bass peddles the fifth of the tonic until the final chord.

To produce this analysis, I scanned the web for a few hours and then bought two books. Intros, Endings & Turnarounds for Keyboard by John Valerio and All Intros & Endings for Jazz Guitar: bebop, swing, latin, ballads by Jim Ferguson. Both books are similar and have similar content. The guitar book lays out the fingering for guitarists and any guitarist who wants it is welcome to my copy for free because I have no further need of it. The keyboard book is more theoretical and more complete and the better book for non-guitarists and I expect to work through it myself and if you’re a pianist and want to dig deeper, than I recommend the book.

Below is a long but far from exhaustive list of examples:

The last 2, 4, 8, or 16 bars of the tune

The turnaround at the end of the form.

The “whole step” intro: C- | D- | C- | D- etc Good for latin ballads.


3 6 2 5 | 1 E- A7 D- G7 C^ The Turnaround Intro

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With walking bass for a guitarist:

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or
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Another one in F Major:
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Back to the key of C, but in C Minor, not Major:
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1 b2#11 1 b2#11 C^ Db^#11 from

Jazz Guitar Intros and Endings with Tabs and Audio Files


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Or
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Or
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Or
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Five of One:
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4^ 4- 3- 5 2- 5 1^ 5 | F | F- | E- | A7b13 A7 | D- | G13 G7b13 | C^ G13 |
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5^ 4^/5 5 #5^/5 1^ G^ F^/G G7 G#^/G C^ the 5 pedal

Another pedal:
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A different 5 pedal: Note that I didn’t script this and the author didn’t write the lead-in correctly. I have no idea why. This one and the next two are on Jonny May’s website.

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A stock ballad intro:
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A stock latin tune intro. Garota de Ipanema, etc

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5sus4 5b9 5sus4 5b13 5sus4 5b9 5sus4 5b13 1 the 5 sus

G7sus G7b9 G7sus G7b13 G7sus G7b9 G7sus G7b13 C^

1^ 1#o7 | 2- 5 | 1^ 3o7 | 2- b57 b57b5 | 1^ Dim passing chords

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C^ Dbo7 | D- G7b13 | C^ Eo7 | D- Db7 Db7b5 | C^

Ellington or A-train ending? Some refer to it as the Basie ending, but I think that's a mistake. | 1 3 4 #4 | 5 6 7 1, 1 |
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Basie ending:
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Chromatic ending:

4-7b5 4-6 3- b3o 2- b2^ 1^ F#m7b5 F-6 E- Ebo D- Db^ C^


3 b3 2 b2 chromatic vamp: These are from 6 Essential Jazz Guitar Intros
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Stray Cat Strut:
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“Tune starts on iii” vamp
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“tunes that start IV^
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Ending for On the Sunny Side of the Street from Intros and Endings – The Jazz Language

Joshua Redman and Christian McBride
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Oscar Peterson intro on The Nearness of You in Ab
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Billie Holiday’s ending on All of Me:
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It's fairly common to use an instrumental cadenza for an intro. Solo Piano or guitar may noodle around for an extended time using one of the standard formulas you have detailed...or they way start in a totally different key and play freely, and then use some sort of modulation sequence to set up the actual start of the song.


Another approach that may be appropriate is to quote another song. For example, I sometimes played what I called the Killer Joe vamp into a fade to end certain songs.

Bass line something like this:


Used as an intro here.
 
It's fairly common to use an instrumental cadenza for an intro. Solo Piano or guitar may noodle around for an extended time using one of the standard formulas you have detailed...or they way start in a totally different key and play freely, and then use some sort of modulation sequence to set up the actual start of the song.


Another approach that may be appropriate is to quote another song. For example, I sometimes played what I called the Killer Joe vamp into a fade to end certain songs.

Bass line something like this:


Used as an intro here.

Yes, excellent points, thanks! I'll add them into the doc. The Killer Joe vamp is just a vamp but your reminder of the instrumental cadenza I missed.
 
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Yes, excellent points, thanks! I'll add them into the doc. The Killer Joe vamp is just a vamp but your reminder of the instrumental cadenza I missed.


Yes I agree the Killer Joe ending is a vamp, but the intended distinction is quoting another very recognizable song. When I start to play the bass line, the other musicians may perk up and quote other aspects of Killer Joe such as the punches in the piano, or playing the opening melody line...So the outro becomes a second extended solo section, although we don't play the B section Killer Joe. Possibly because I don't know it.

Did you mention the tag ending? I guess it could be considered a form of turn-around. But I think of tags as a separate. Tags can be tricky due to variety of ways they can be executed.
 
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Yes I agree the Killer Joe ending is a vamp, but the intended distinction is quoting another very recognizable song. When I start to play the bass line, the other musicians may perk up and quote other aspects of Killer Joe such as the punches in the piano, or playing the opening melody line...So the outro becomes a second extended solo section, although we don't play the B section Killer Joe. Possibly because I don't know it.

Did you mention the tag ending? I guess it could be considered a form of turn-around. But I think of tags as a separate. Tags can be tricky due to variety of ways they can be executed.
Ah, now I see your distinction about quoting the other tune, fair enough. And that's similar to the prolonged vamp ending where you just play a vamp until the soloist calls it.

And I agree that tags can be a challenge. You're listening for when the melodist really wants to end it, and it frequently drops out of time and so if their communction isn't first rate, it can get kinda blown and end less than ideally. I'll also add them to the doc.
 
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When I started playing with seasoned players, intros were sometimes explained beforehand and outros almost never.

When I'd ask what we were going to do before they counted off the tune, invariably I'd get, "You'll hear it"...which meant, "You'd better hear it, but if you don't, stay out of the way".

After a while, if you don't know how a tune is going to end, you learn to play something which doesn't force it, until you can hear where they are going with it.
 
For a bassist, that's right on, and the drum kit too. The pianist or guitarist, more burden, IME.
I'm painfully aware of the times I've screwed up. Once hitting the tonic prematurely and getting the stink eye from the soloist. Another time subbing for a pro and mis hearing their second tag as their last and having Jim Snidero scream at me for ending the tune prematurely. Needless to say, I'm no longer a fan of Snidero's.
 
I'm a big fan of improvised introes and letting it be a solo spot essentially for whomever is starting the tune. They have a little space to create a vibe and compose in the moment.

Something i wish my bandmates would remember more is that any instrument can do the intro. You don't have to be a guitarist or pianist. You can easily start a tune with solo bass, or solo drums too. Frequently missed opportunity!
 
I see that you've achieved (as a musician) more that I've ever dreamed of.
I'm happy for you.
I don't want to give the wrong impression; all of those sessions were me as a student, and they as teachers. It wasn't as though they hired me to play in their band. I, along with a bunch of others, paid them to play for us and teach us and they all generously let me play a tune or two with them. For a few years, John Goldsby's audition process for me was "Whatd'ya wanna play?" and we'd do the bass duo thing. And John's so clear and supportive in his playing that even if I got distracted I'd find my way back again. Year before last, Chris Fitzgerald's audition was him on piano and we played an F blues and then he'd go further and further into Stravinsky-land until I lost the beat. It took around 10 choruses or so but eventually I was literally dumbfounded and that was a pretty cool experience, I have to say.
 
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