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Involuntary Substitution

From the information supplied, it appears that practicing is more a priority to the bandleader than it is to you. So there is a question of how well you really fit, maybe.

I'm guessing that your wife, knowing you and being closer to the situation, might be your best advisor. Though I think you could leave it on better terms than telling them to go %*^! themselves...
 
I received the following text from a bandleader:

"Are you available for rehearsal before April 8th? I have our backup bass player chompin at the bit for that gig. Let me know."

This sounded like some newly booked gig of which I was unaware. It's not. It's our regularly scheduled gig for which I expressed my availability as it was being booked.

The problem is the bandleader wants to rehearse every Monday. I do not. That's four rehearsals a month versus just one, sometime two gigs. I am not ok with a 4:1 rehearsal-to-gig ratio. This is a blues-rock gig (75% covers). It ain't Mozart. I am willing to rehearse once a month with this band. (I have another band that rehearses roughly once a month, plus a startup project and fill-in gigs).

I have two fill-in gigs in April with two other bands for which there will be no rehearsal. (I haven't even met the people in one of the bands). They will go well because I will be prepared.

My last four Mondays went like this:
3/7 - Vacation, visiting my daughter out of state.
3/14 - I had tickets to see the Who, rescheduled from a fall date.
3/21 - I was nursing my dying cat, which we put down the next morning. I also took off from work for this.
3/28 - Vacation, visiting the in-laws for Easter, as we do every year.

The bandleader seems unaware that our keyboardist frequently cancels rehearsals due to work.

Here's the rub. The bandleader gave the gig to this bit-chompin' bassist, in spite of the fact that I am:
1. A full member of the band.
B. Available for the gig.
III. Always prepared.

I told the bandleader that if he is replacing me for April 8 then he should replace me permanently.
(My wife is a singer. Her advice was to tell him to go f*** himself, but I like the guy and have become good friends with his brother (band's drummer)).

I am awaiting his response.

There shouldn't be any hard feelings over this. They need or want the rehearsals. You don't. You guys should be able to part amicably.
 
Weird. My band practices once a week regardless of gigs. If no gigs, we work on writing usually. I don't think we are a bad band at all. Everyone has been playing since we were kids.

Isn't your band original's?? I ask/say this because cover band's shouldn't need to rehearse weekly(assuming OP's group is cover's only), IME it'd be *maybe* a few times a year(seriously!!)...

In original group's I have a different view of course;)
 
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There is no reason for capable musicians to rehearse for cover gigs. Not even the first gig together. Not even if you've never met.

If you're making significant changes to the stock renditions for some reason, or there's choreography or perhaps there's been a long layoff before a crucial gig, then a short rehearsal for those parts is reasonable. At most one rehearsal per gig, but that's stretching it.


You're not the only member of the band. Perhaps the BL feels there are other members who do need more rehearsals - and it's kind of silly to rehearse them without a bass player present?

Or hire people who can competently play their instrument. Practice on your own time.


I've had that happen to me. The BL wanted to rehearse every weekend whether or not there were gigs booked...I didn't. In all honesty, if the band "needs" to rehearse that much, it probably isn't a very good band.

If a band "needs" to rehearse that much, it is NOT a good band. Wanting to rehearse, get away from the family or whatever is different. But need? No, if they need anything it's to learn to play their instrument competently. On their own time.
 
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I would think a band that practices more is likely to be better, not worse. I like having rehearsal, regardless if there's a gig or not. That's why we play music right?<snip>

There's the social interaction part of it, of course, which counts for something. Other than learning the structures of specific songs better, there is no guarantee that a band will become better as musicians if it practices the wrong things over and over again. I've seen this happen with several past band members, who couldn't practice enough and still managed to gain no new insight into fundamental music theory or even improve their technique. They just got more set in their ways. And they could not see it.

As with other things of this nature, relentless practice/rehearsal is a double-edged sword and not always productive. What is most important is recognizing when it does not yield the desired result, which can vary from individual to individual.
 
There is no reason for capable musicians to rehearse for cover gigs. Not even the first gig together. Not even if you've never met.

If you're making significant changes to the stock renditions for some reason, or there's choreography or perhaps there's been a long layoff before a crucial gig, then a short rehearsal for those parts is reasonable. At most one rehearsal per gig, but that's stretching it.




Or hire people who can competently play their instrument. Practice on your own time.




If a band "needs" to rehearse that much, it is NOT a good band. Wanting to rehearse, get away from the family or whatever is different. But need? No, if they need anything it's to learn to play their instrument competently. On their own time.
you'd go over great in the jazz wankfest thread.
 
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How many other projects is the BL involved with? If your answer is zero, you are killing his baby.

Nope. Band leader is killing his own baby by insisting on rehearsals that others already told him they can't do. And threatening them. Seasoned professional musicians don't need to rehearse 4 times a month for a gig.

I in fact finally felt like I got some justice, or "I told you so" affirmations regarding this last night. I played for about 6 months a while back with a dude who talked a big game, made lots of promises, and insisted that we rehearse every week. After more rehearsals than I care to admit to, and no gigs, I quit and immediately found another band playing the same exact covers yet doing the opposite. Gigging instead of rehearsing. It's now a few years later and last night we used one of the newer guys from that first band as a sub in my new band. His experience with the BL was the same as mine, and I wasn't the one who brought it up. He too, quit because of the rehearsal to gig ratio, and doesn't think very highly of the band leader. I should mention that that other band fell apart. The non rehearsing band that I'm playing in now with the other guy who quit 1st band, is still going strong, and playing some well known venues in NYC while getting paid more than most bands doing the same material.

I just put together a Deep Purple/Rainbow tribute. We got together for rehearsal 2 times. 5 songs first time, 5 second, and after the next we'll be booking shows and probably never rehearse again unless we go a long stretch (which will probably be the case given the type of band it is :)), without a gig. Our first rehearsal could have been a short gig. Everyone was completely prepared, and the band was tighter than many bands I've played with for years. And the material was a lot more challenging than what those other bands were playing. Point being, all the musicians were competent, committed, and did their homework well.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with rehearsing every week. I think that's essential for some bands, and I'd surely not be in the place I am now to NOT have to rehearse if I didn't have the amount of experience I do have, rehearsing. My point, which I'm not certain I'm making clear because I'm writing quickly.... is that I think it's important that the entire band is on the same page. And if anyone is being a douche here, it's the BL. If someone threatened me with a sub like that, I'd say the same thing the OP said, and even if I had a lot invested, I'd bite the bullet and find another band. A band where everyone understood their job, and was on the same page as me.

Time goes by quickly. I've wasted a lot of that time playing with people I know in retrospect I shouldn't have wasted my time with. But I guess I needed to do that to get to the point where I'm now aware of it. There are lots of other bands out there. I've found that the old saying, "when one door closes another opens," is completely true so long as we believe it, and have our eyes open for that other door.

If looking for advice, I'd say you did the right thing. Just don't beat yourself up over it, and stick to your word. Threatening you with a sub is completely uncool. That's enough motivation for me to walk without even giving the BL any choices to make.
 
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The more your band rehearses, the better the band will be. Sounds like you're not committed to this project. Maybe you should think about leaving.
Not to beat the horse I feel I just shot in the head in my previous post... but again, no. It doesn't necessarily work that way. It seems he might however be at a different level than the rest of the band. IMO, they're not committed to doing what they really need to do in order to make the band work. Their homework. I do however agree on the 2nd part, that he should absolutely consider leaving. Showing up at rehearsal once a week doesn't make a good, nor a talented, nor a committed musician. Showing up at a gig on time, completely prepared, does.
 
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The more your band rehearses, the better the band will be. Sounds like you're not committed to this project. Maybe you should think about leaving.

Keeping in mind we're talking about covers, what you're describing is co-dependency.

In fact the more each individual practices individually, ideally working on lessons to better themselves overall as a musician and jamming with other people in various syles , the better the band will be.
 
I just can't see rehearsing these easy songs for three hours every Monday.
It's not your call. Presumably you knew the practice schedule before you joined the band. If you didn't, that's on you.
In all honesty, if the band "needs" to rehearse that much, it probably isn't a very good band.
Some of us aren't in 5 different bands and we enjoy the opportunity to play with other people once a week whether we need it or not. ;)
 
I just put together a Deep Purple/Rainbow tribute. We got together for rehearsal 2 times. 5 songs first time, 5 second, and after the next we'll be booking shows and probably never rehearse again....

Brilliant! I'd pay to see that.

In one band we gigged a couple of Rainbow epics - very long songs with somewhat complex arrangements - no rehearsal & nailed it. I think one had a fade out, which takes 30 seconds of discussion tops to sort out between sets or maybe the BL sends a live version as reference. "We'll end it like they did in Montreux '78, here's a link.". What is there to rehearse?

A good rule-of-thumb is to book no rehearsal unless everyone can submit a perfect video or audio rendition of the song(s). Once everyone can do that, the only reason to rehearse would be to shoot a promo video to get gigs.

Best of luck with the new project!
 
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Typically our band will have a gig around once a week, and at that pace it keeps us pretty tight. If we go a month between gigs (happens in the winter in particular) we can get kind of sloppy, even though we've been doing these songs with the same core of the group for a decade. However, we only "rehearse" maybe once or twice a year to work up some new stuff, typically in the winter. Doing your homework on your own is important preparation to learn songs, but it doesn't develop that ESP between band members who have played with each other countless times. I know when my guitarist is going to screw something up before he does.

I guess I'm trying to say that if the BL would get more gigs, then you wouldn't need to rehearse so much!
 
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