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Involuntary Substitution

I told the bandleader that if he is replacing me for April 8 then he should replace me permanently.

I refuse to rehearse songs once we have successfully performed them and are happy with the arrangement. Utter and complete waste of time.

Now, if there is a legitimate agenda and material that needs attention, re-arrangement, tightening, etc., then your gig : performance ratio is of no consequence and you should be rehearsing until everything is tight and performance-ready.
 
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We play eight original songs, none of which are new or complicated and all are tight. The rest are blues or blues-rock. Most have three to five chords. There is only one singer, so no harmonies to work out.

Even with original bands, I've never been in one that rehearsed weekly. I played in a five piece core band that would expand to ten pieces with horns and backing singers for bigger gigs. We had just one rehearsal before the first gig. We also had just one rehearsal with the full ten pieces before playing a series of gigs, the first of which was filmed. It was tight.

I play with another original band about once a year. No rehearsal. We get a song list (often last minute) and I keep some charts nearby just in case. It always goes well. (Years ago we would have the occasional rehearsal).

Another original band called me on a Wednesday to play two gigs that same weekend, including a live radio broadcast on Sunday. We had a meeting (not even a real rehearsal) on Friday to touch on the setlist and arrangements and the band leader handed me her CDs. I listened to the songs on Friday, typed out charts as needed, and played Saturday and Sunday. The gigs went flawlessly. I finished out the summer with them.

As I've said elsewhere, I am always prepared.

I'm not saying I never need to rehearse. Weekly is just too much for what we're doing.

I agree with you!! If you think weekly rehearsals are too much for what your doing, you're probably right!! , I went through the same scenario the last 6 months with an original/cover band, there were recordings of everything and they wanted to rehearse every week. Due to my work schedule I couldn't make it alot of the time, but like you I was always prepared!! It was more practice for the drummer unfortunately...

To me it also depends on many factors, here rehearsal spaces charge by the hour where on the mainland you could pay monthly rent and store your equipment...so for my case it wasn't worth it for setup time, the long drive, feeling rushed.... I got better results practicing on my own and showing up to the gigs!!
 
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all of you that say you need a band rehearsal to be tight obviously need to work more at home. 8 originals and blues tunes? every week rehearsal for that is pretty lame. I have played quite a few cover gigs where I didn't know anyone till after the gig was over and we were tight. I used to also play with an old bluesman where every gig was a completely different group of musicians. he would just start playing and we had to get it by the 4. I think some of you need a little fire under your feet from time to time.
 
That sounds like my nightmare. I have had as many as three rehearsals with three different bands in a week. That's hell for me, and is an additional reason NOT to rehearse every week. I have a life outside of music and need time for that, too, including a new house with a lawn to mow.

The novelty of playing with people just to play wore off many years ago. I'm sure plenty of people have played much more than I have, but I have played a lot of gigs (I actually keep track). Playing in front of an audience is immeasurably more enjoyable to rehearsing or worse, jamming. The energy is way better. I just can't stay excited for the third run through of a song in somebody's basement studio after having worked all day, especially when it's a song we play every gig without issue. (If a song needs work, fine, but few songs we do need that much work).

As I mentioned earlier, my wife is a singer. We play together in my other band and are also starting up a little acoustic band for afternoon or happy hour gigs. The acoustic band needs rehearsal (there's one tonight) as we are altering arrangements, changing keys and working out harmonies. Plus, while the guitarist/singer is a talented guy he has not gigged in many years and is clearly nervous. To his credit, he has been doing a ton of woodshedding at home and comes to rehearsal prepared. No gigs scheduled yet.

A more typical gig for my wife goes like this: A bandleader calls her to see if she is available to fill in at a big club, a small restaurant, a corporate party or for a wedding. If she is, she gets a song list (covers, of course) with the key for each. She woodsheds at home for a few days and goes straight to the gig. No rehearsal. Often she doesn't even meet some of the people she's performing with until the gig. She's a pro.

With all that being said, it just sounds like you have a different vision that the BL of the band in question. Neither are right or wrong, but you have to be on the same page for the band to work to everyone's liking.
 
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We rehearse weekly, sometimes 2x/week. We're an agency band, we're always learning new songs, trying new medleys or mashups. We're also gigging (between acoustic/full band gigs) 4x/mo or more. If we weren't gigging I suppose it'd be a different story.

If rehearsal frequency isn't something you and the BL/rest of the band agree with, doesn't sound like you're long for that band anyway.
 
The douche spin doesn't come from different needs or priorities, it comes (from me at least) from people making threats if others don't do what they want them to do.

How he handled it is separate than his priority, and many are slamming his "what" and not his "how."

I think the majority of time a conversation clears up much more than our "psychic" ability to "know" and although I may have done things differently, given the information at hand, he may have had these conversations several times before with his mates and thus his chosen solution was to handle it that way.

I simply didn't/don't have enough information to form an opinion on the "how".
 
I refuse to rehearse songs once we have successfully performed them and are happy with the arrangement. Utter and complete waste of time.

Now, if there is a legitimate agenda and material that needs attention, re-arrangement, tightening, etc., then your gig : performance ratio is of no consequence and you should be rehearsing until everything is tight and performance-ready.

Rehearsals for this band are not well run. Sometimes we go into rehearsal with no agenda at all. We run through several songs we already do, altering nothing. New songs are often announced the day before (Sunday) or even the morning of rehearsal (Monday). When exactly am I supposed to woodshed these songs? (Though most are easy enough to learn on the spot).
 
Rehearsals for this band are not well run. Sometimes we go into rehearsal with no agenda at all. We run through several songs we already do, altering nothing. New songs are often announced the day before (Sunday) or even the morning of rehearsal (Monday). When exactly am I supposed to woodshed these songs? (Though most are easy enough to learn on the spot).
I've already been replaced for the next gig, so I told him to replace me permanently. No impact to brace for.

You're better off. I can't deal with time-wasters either. I'd rather stay home and work on my musicianship alone than do that.

IME, it's usually not possible to rehabilitate people in this situation. You'd either be ignored or cause defensiveness and animosity.

Monday Night Social Club is what it is.
 
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How he handled it is separate than his priority, and many are slamming his "what" and not his "how."

I think the majority of time a conversation clears up much more than our "psychic" ability to "know" and although I may have done things differently, given the information at hand, he may have had these conversations several times before with his mates and thus his chosen solution was to handle it that way.

I simply didn't/don't have enough information to form an opinion on the "how".

The conversation was brief occurred via text when I was out of state. There was no previous mention of any issue regarding rehearsals.

Here's the second text, sent shortly after the one in my original post [edited only to protect the innocent]:

"When we first asked you to come on board, we made it really clear that we liked to get together every Monday. You also joined under the belief that [Other Band] was winding down. Since you've joined the band and got you up to speed, we've barely gotten together once a month and you've got a boat load of [Other Band] dates, and the later is good for [Other Band] .... Don't get me wrong. But this isn't what we signed up for. So I'm gonna start splitting gigs and rehearsals so that you don't have to rehearse as mush as we want to and we have someone else to cover gigs you can't do. I think that's only fair to everyone involved. So the April 8 I'm giving to Mike since he's available to rehearse this week and next. We should get together when you get back. Call me tomorrow"

I knew I would have no time to call so I sent a long, non-angry email, mentioned in my original post. No response so far.

It was never clear that we would rehearse every Monday. If that had been clear I would have politely declined the offer to join, as I had done with a previous offer from another band that wanted to rehearse twice a week until forever.

Other Band (not the real name, of course) was indeed winding down last year due to the bandleader's health. At the end of the year his health improved and he wanted to try for another year. I'm not going to leave the guy hanging. He's not young, a great guy, and I have been the only constant in the four years since I've joined. Everybody else comes and goes. Other Band bandleader books gigs. None have interfered with This Band booking.

If I weren't also in Other Band I would certainly be hunting for a second band. One gig a month isn't enough for me. (This is where my love of playing kicks in).

Here is the actual number of rehearsals by month since I joined This Band in late June 2015:
Jul - 3
Aug - 3
Sep - 1
Oct - 3
Nov - 1
Dec - 2 (I was away on vacation one Monday)
Jan - 3 (I may have canceled the 4th)
Feb - 2
Mar - 0 (I was on vacation two Mondays, had tickets for the Who on another and was nursing my dying cat for the third)

In this time we played just eight (8) gigs. My old band would do that in a month. They played two or three before my first gig in August with a sub as I had commitments to fulfill. They have not subbed for me since my first gig.

Looking at my calendar, I may have canceled one rehearsal to have dinner with my daughter the night before she moved permanently out of state, though I think our keyboardist did the actual canceling. More on that later. My vacations would have prevented three other rehearsals. I see nothing out of line here. Certainly nothing to indicate I am not reliable.

Our keyboardist sometimes works late and has canceled several rehearsals - probably more than everyone else combined, though I don't have exact numbers. Part of my response to Bandleader was to ask him if he's replacing the keyboardist, too. (For the record, I have no issue with Keyboardist canceling. Life happens).

I'm not interested in a platoon situation on bass, as if I'm a rookie shortstop competing for my job. Other Band is already like that - three rotating drummers and frequent subs on guitar, vocals and sometimes keys (and it's my job to keep everybody together on stage).
 
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In the interest of completeness, here is the full text of my email to the bandleader:

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[Bandleader],

Disclaimer: Please do not read an angry tone in this email.

I have a very busy evening tonight and might not have time to call, and it's too much to text.

I have never heard of a band subbing out a gig when a band member is ready and available. This is a first. It's bad form. This type of thing just isn't done. Will you be subbing out for [Keyboardist] next week, too? He has a pretty busy schedule and cancels his fair share of rehearsals.

Here's where I've been the last four Mondays:
3/7 - Vacation visiting my daughter who now lives out of state.
3/14 - Who concert, rescheduled from last Fall.
3/21 - Nursing my dying cat, who we had to put down the next morning. I also took these days off of work.
3/28 - Vacation visiting family for Easter, an annual trip.

Which of these should I have canceled?

I never agreed to rehearse every Monday. That was never mentioned. It was agreed that rehearsals are "Mondays," but nobody said every Monday. ([Other Band] rehearses Tuesdays, but not every Tuesday - our last was in January). I eagerly rehearsed every week in the beginning to get up to speed. I've been up to speed for quite some time now.

We gig about once a month. I don't see the point in a 4:1 rehearsal-to-gig ratio. It should be the other way around. It's the blues, not Mozart. It doesn't require endless rehearsal. Plus we're doing straight covers of records. It doesn't get much easier.

My wife just did a fill-in gig with an 80s tribute band in a Long Island club opening for [80s Pop Star] in front of 1,500 people, subbing for one of their lead singers. No rehearsal. She was given a song list and a time and place to show up. This is how the various wedding bands she occasionally plays with operate, too. Her job is to show up prepared. I show up prepared.

I'm not saying I refuse to rehearse. Just that once a month is enough, especially with the low number of gigs we play.

Another problem I have with our rehearsals is that when one is scheduled there is either no song list or the list goes out so late (Sunday, even Monday) there is no time to woodshed so I can show up to rehearsal prepared.

[Other Band] has not interfered with [This Band], mainly because [This Band] hardly has any gigs. [Other Band] was indeed scheduled to end in 2015 due to the bandleader's health, but he improved enough to where he felt like he could do another year. I've been the one constant in that band since I joined. I'm not going to leave the guy hanging. I don't do that to people. Plus, he books gigs. He puts that effort in.

If you're going to replace me for a gig I am available to play, please replace me permanently. No hard feelings.

[Me]
 
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To me the issue is the way the BL tried to cohearse
you into practice by threatening to give gigs to fill in. That is a d#$k move in my book, and I don t think I could remain in the band with him any longer. Find a band with a less conniving band leader , and have fun, I m sure the new band can at least book more than 1 gig a month. I worked in an all original band for 4 years, and after the initial start up time learning the songs, we only got together to learn new songs. I think we practiced 3 times as a band in the last 2 years I was with them, and we all showed up prepared and knocked the songs down rather quickly. Good luck.
 
When I lived in Chicago many years ago, I once got to watch Lonnie Brooks rehearse his band on a Saturday afternoon. They were the headliners that night at Kingston Mines. Keep in mind, this was a tight band, they had been touring for years. In spite of that, Lonnie rehearsed the hell out of them to tighten up some parts on a couple of songs. That experience reinforced the the value I have for rehearsals.

Well yeah, if I were a full time, touring musician, I'd be all for rehearsing whenever the person who signs the checks wanted to. In a weekend warrior cover band, not so much.
 
Here is the text of the bandleader response to my email, received last night:

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I'm not going to respond to everything here. Things just aren't working out and it's best to part company as friends. No hard feelings or angry tones. It's been a pleasure having you in the band and we had a lot of truly great musical moments. For that I thank you. I hope to catch one of your RB3 gigs in the near future.

If you can kindly give me the facebook login info, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again. Rock on!

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There's no point in turning this into more of an argument, even though he was 100% wrong in how he handled the situation. I'm not sure how things "just aren't working out." The band sounded great and we never had an argument about anything. The guy just wants to rehearse more than play.

I feel no loss. I've become very good friends with bandleader's brother, who plays drums in both This Band and Other Band. He said he would continue playing with Other Band.

I will barely notice losing one gig a month and can probably make up for it quickly elsewhere.
 
Here is the text of the bandleader response to my email, received last night:

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I'm not going to respond to everything here. Things just aren't working out and it's best to part company as friends. No hard feelings or angry tones. It's been a pleasure having you in the band and we had a lot of truly great musical moments. For that I thank you. I hope to catch one of your RB3 gigs in the near future.

If you can kindly give me the facebook login info, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks again. Rock on!

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There's no point in turning this into more of an argument, even though he was 100% wrong in how he handled the situation. I'm not sure how things "just aren't working out." The band sounded great and we never had an argument about anything. The guy just wants to rehearse more than play.

I feel no loss. I've become very good friends with bandleader's brother, who plays drums in both This Band and Other Band. He said he would continue playing with Other Band.

I will barely notice losing one gig a month and can probably make up for it quickly elsewhere.

Things aren't working out because you aren't willing to fulfill the requirements of the band, and apparently aren't available enough that a regular sub was required.

Good that you're moving on.
 
As a leader, setting expectations isn't a threat.

In the OP he said he was texted that if he didn't want to rehearse on Monday, BL had a sub who would, and would also do the gig that was previously agreed upon. That's a threat.

Details were added mid thread and now it's turned into a he said/she said thing... So without hearing the BLs side, I can't comment anymore. People obviously aren't communicating clearly. OP says there was no Monday agreement, BL says the Monday agreement was clear.

Bottom line in all this, IMO, is that OP shouldn't be in this band.