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iOS Bass Players Thread #6 - World Domination

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FEF said:
Now that's interesting. The low B (5-strung) is about 61Hz, so if you rolled it of at 40, you can't be missing much. It's an interesting thought. Does it clean up the sound any?
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I play 4 string basses...

Low "E" is 41.204 Hz

Cutting there instead of higher seems to fill out the low end a bit better.

I roll my guitar off @ either 80Hz (usually ) or even 120Hz if it has too much bottom so it doesn't butt heads with the bass.

I also usually filter everything above ~2600Hz or so, sometimes half that on the bass ( higher on guitar ) which seems to sound better to me.

The HPF/LPF settings help a bit with cleaning up the sound as they remove inaudible/unnecessary stuff that adds to the mud factor.

What really helps clean up the signal chain for bass is reducing the distortion levels in both the amp & preamp settings.

That kills the overall gain in the preamp & amp sections a lot, which seems to be more desirable for bass than guitar.

Gain staging is critical if one wishes to dial out the dirt.

Other things I like to do that enhances a "non-bass" sim for bass use is use the "Fat Style" transformer setting and the C414 mic...
 
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claudel said:
I play 4 string basses...

Low "E" is 41.204 Hz

Cutting there instead of higher seems to fill out the low end a bit better.

I roll my guitar off @ either 80Hz (usually ) or even 120Hz if it has too much bottom so it doesn't butt heads with the bass.

I also usually filter everything above ~2600Hz or so, sometimes half that on the bass ( higher on guitar ) which seems to sound better to me.

The HPF/LPF settings help a bit with cleaning up the sound as they remove inaudible/unnecessary stuff that adds to the mud factor.

What really helps clean up the signal chain for bass is reducing the distortion levels in both the amp & preamp settings.

That kills the overall gain in the preamp & amp sections a lot, which seems to be more desirable for bass than guitar.

Gain staging is critical if one wishes to dial out the dirt.

Other things I like to do that enhances a "non-bass" sim for bass use is use the "Fat Style" transformer setting and the C414 mic...
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But there is much life above 2600hz. My Rickenbacker or my Geddy have lots of character at 4000hz
 
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2.6K is really low for a roll off point. As Duke21 points out 4-6K is even considered a low frequency for a treble knob on a bass or amp. But we all have different ears and preferences so there is no wrong way to be. :) I would just caution that the same is true for the audience and you may have a fairly soft sound with not much attack out front.
 
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PDGood said:
2.6K is really low for a roll off point. As Duke21 points out 4-6K is even considered a low frequency for a treble knob on a bass or amp. But we all have different ears and preferences so there is no wrong way to be. :) I would just caution that the same is true for the audience and you may have a fairly soft sound with not much attack out front.
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A bass guitar have life even around 8000hz. If the bass is a Hofner, a P bass with flats, well yes, not much is there after 2k. Very difficult to makes the notes audible in a dense mix and if the guitars do not apply HPF at around 200hz
 
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