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#4,601
Well, at least one song on the new record is gonna heavily feature some of Taylor's creations! Had a studio session last night with the touring band (well, the rhythm section, anyways), and we cooked up a pretty neat arrangement. Initially, it was gonna be a Bossa-leaning reggae groove, but as we workshopped it, it morphed into a super heavy steppers-style beat. Then we decided it needed a wobbly dub section...

*Subterranea and FMeron have entered the chat*

The core bass line (of the entire track!) was recorded on a 100% wet Subterranea, Filter rolled off CCW for maximum "OC-2" effect. For the dub, I layered over the FMeron, set for +1 octave, and a slow attacking/upward sweep, into a Dr. Scientist BitQuest, set for glitch delay. Fun! Drummer layered over some fills and rolls, and the keyboard also did a delay-heavy layer. Given only the overdubbed drums have received any "studio magic", I think this section turned out pretty cool!

Song still totally unfinished (missing several instruments, and vocals), not to mention unedited. Raw audio goodness for your ear drums; turn it up loud to catch all the noises (and the fat ass Subterranea)! :cool:

 
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sloppy_phil said:
Well, at least one song on the new record is gonna heavily feature some of Taylor's creations! Had a studio session last night with the touring band (well, the rhythm section, anyways), and we cooked up a pretty neat arrangement. Initially, it was gonna be a Bossa-leaning reggae groove, but as we workshopped it, it morphed into a super heavy steppers-style beat. Then we decided it needed a wobbly dub section...

*Subterranea and FMeron have entered the chat*

The core bass line (of the entire track!) was recorded on a 100% wet Subterranea, Filter rolled off CCW for maximum "OC-2" effect. For the dub, I layered over the FMeron, set for +1 octave, and a slow attacking/upward sweep, into a Dr. Scientist BitQuest, set for glitch delay. Fun! Drummer layered over some fills and rolls, and the keyboard also did a delay-heavy layer. Given only the overdubbed drums have received any "studio magic", I think this section turned out pretty cool!

Song still totally unfinished (missing several instruments, and vocals), not to mention unedited. Raw audio goodness for your ear drums; turn it up loud to catch all the noises (and the fat ass Subterranea)! :cool:

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Sounds wonderfully organic!
 
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shon said:
You'll want to roll as much of the high end off of your basses signal as possible to get a clean tracking with the dubterranea. As Taylor said, it's meant to be paired with the xerograph, so you're winning on that front!

I like the subterranea better as an analog octaver. It tracks really well and has a pretty flexible filter. The dub recreates the synth waveforms much better though.
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That's what I noticed too. If it were possible, I'd have the waveforms of the dub and the octave of the sub. But even then, I had worbably octave problems with the sub, compared to my other octaves at least. Honestly, if you stuck all the wave form options in one pedal, and for your low end have something with heavy resonance/recrc feedback, or a "pultek trick" going on, the pedal would be 1000%. I kept having issues with the octave on the SubG, in and out fundamental thing, so I would trim that out and completely lose my sub lows, which sounds so good mixed with the wave options. I don't know if the octave is needed to produce the waveforms, but something more predictable or stable would be awesome. That's the type of octave I've veered toward recently, the ones where I hardly have to change my playing style/technique to pull off stable -1 octaves
 
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labeledbass said:
That's what I noticed too. If it were possible, I'd have the waveforms of the dub and the octave of the sub. But even then, I had worbably octave problems with the sub, compared to my other octaves at least. Honestly, if you stuck all the wave form options in one pedal, and for your low end have something with heavy resonance/recrc feedback, or a "pultek trick" going on, the pedal would be 1000%. I kept having issues with the octave on the SubG, in and out fundamental thing, so I would trim that out and completely lose my sub lows, which sounds so good mixed with the wave options. I don't know if the octave is needed to produce the waveforms, but something more predictable or stable would be awesome. That's the type of octave I've veered toward recently, the ones where I hardly have to change my playing style/technique to pull off stable -1 octaves
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Weird! I find the Sub to be one of the best tracking octave pedals I've had the pleasure to use. The clip I recorded above was on a Rickenbacker, with freshly changed roundwound strings. I thought we were gonna be doing a different song altogether, so prepared for that with the string change. The SubT handled those overtones and harmonics like a champ! I rolled the tone off maybe 50-60%, but even then, they were *fresh* strings; just out of the package that morning.

But I do agree, overall, that with digital tracking pedals (FMeron included here!), you want to roll the tone off 100%, and favour the neck pickup (if you have one). Clean playing is a must. The FMeron is a noticeably more fussy pedal regarding all that, as compared to the SubT. IME, of course!
 
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sloppy_phil said:
Weird! I find the Sub to be one of the best tracking octave pedals I've had the pleasure to use. The clip I recorded above was on a Rickenbacker, with freshly changed roundwound strings. I thought we were gonna be doing a different song altogether, so prepared for that with the string change. The SubT handled those overtones and harmonics like a champ! I rolled the tone off maybe 50-60%, but even then, they were *fresh* strings; just out of the package that morning.

But I do agree, overall, that with digital tracking pedals (FMeron included here!), you want to roll the tone off 100%, and favour the neck pickup (if you have one). Clean playing is a must. The FMeron is a noticeably more fussy pedal regarding all that, as compared to the SubT. IME, of course!
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Yeah, I've ran all tricks, high input/neck PU/dedicated LPF/tip toe and deliberate notes/lower resonance, heck I even setup a bass just for octave work. The octaves I run now, I can just go back and forth like any other effect. All of my basses generally are resonant warwicks, all having some sort of jazz neck PU as well.

I got too addicted to digging in and even popping with my octaves, keeping it around 90% full range of tone as well. Just can't go back. Maybe one day I'll setup another synth only rig.
 
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shon said:
You'll want to roll as much of the high end off of your basses signal as possible to get a clean tracking with the dubterranea. As Taylor said, it's meant to be paired with the xerograph, so you're winning on that front!

I like the subterranea better as an analog octaver. It tracks really well and has a pretty flexible filter. The dub recreates the synth waveforms much better though.
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Thanks for the tip
 
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This surprised me today!

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And on my way out the door. Can't wait to check it out later. The velcro is a nice touch.
 
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XD showed up the other day, finally about to sit down with it!

On a side note, what is everyone using for power supplies? This will be my first legit board setup. I was thinking Cioks DC7 but I’m not sure if that’s popping up most because it’s the hot new thing right now or legitimately worth it. Open to all ideas!
 

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