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Iron Ether Appreciation Society

Is the DT capable of all that the FMeron does plus an octave thingy??

The Dubterranea/Xerograph combo and the FMeron represent different methods of synthesis.

FMeron implements frequency modulation synthesis. Most people think of the Yamaha DX7 and other keyboards from this family when FM is discussed, although technically those are all phase modulation synths and the FMeron is not specifically inspired by those keyboards or necessarily attempting to emulate them. It's really more inspired by modular synth dual oscillators like the Harvestman Hertz Donut and Buchla 158. These are tactile, playable, and to me very inspiring music tools that invite creativity, which were some of the main goals with the design of the FMeron.

So the version of FM synthesis in the FMeron starts with sine waves, which naturally have no harmonics, and by modulating the frequency of one with the other, all kinds of strange new harmonic sounds are generated. No filter is needed with FM, although you can definitely extend the palette of the FMeron by combining it with a filter like the Xerograph Deluxe. To my ears, FM is more "futuristic" sounding, or maybe retro-futuristic. It can be both harmonic and inharmonic, and very distinctive or it can just do a very pure octave down sine wave if that's how you set it.

The Dubterranea/Xerograph Deluxe combo are all about subtractive synthesis, which is kind of a backwards approach: start with a very buzzy, harmonically rich waveform, and then selectively remove some frequencies and accentuate others with a resonant filter to create new timbres. This type of synthesis is commonly associated with Moog, among others, and is probably a more recognizable, "classic" sound that you'll hear in lots of hit records from the last 5 decades. The typical subtractive synthesizer has one or more oscillators, a filter, and a voltage-controlled amplifier (VCA) that gives the sound dynamics (otherwise the oscillator will sound constantly, even when you aren't pressing a key). The Dubterranea isn't an all-in-one synthesizer - it contains multiple oscillators and the VCA, as well as all the stuff involved in tracking the pitch and dynamics of what you play to control the oscillators and VCA. So you need to pair it with a filter to get the full subtractive synth sound.

Both pedals can do octave up or octave down, but FMeron can only do one at a time. Dubterranea can have octave down, unison, and octave up all simultaneously, so three stacked octaves plus the clean signal.
 
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I got mine today. #3

The pedal is really fun to play around with. I really like the bubbly modulation sounds.

It can get a little out of control at certain settings but milder ones can add interesting textures. It can definitely get some cool unique phaser and ring mod sounds.

I'm not sure if it will end up on my board but it definitely has a home in my pedal collection.
 
The new Arcing Prisms does lots of phaser-like sounds in addition to the more far-out stuff it can do. I have some ideas for a phaser though, controlled by a looping randomness generator based on my Pithoprakta Eurorack module, so that it doesn't just sweep up and down the same way forever. I'm not put off by difficult projects, just don't like to reuse the same old circuits that we've already been hearing for decades. OTOH, there are only so many ways to make a notch filter, so the place for innovation looks to be the modulation source in this case.

Calling it The Taser would be cool, although might attract some unwanted legal attention...!

Swinging back around on this...I'm sure that Dr. Scientist stuff is on your radar...I have an Atmosphere, and one of the cool things is that it has a programmable LFO onboard that you can assign shapes to, adjust the speed of, and a feature I really like, you can set it to randomized 'shape'. Then you can apply that LFO to different aspects of what you're processing (of course in the context of reverb returns for this pedal); in my case I have a reverb set up with a ringmod on the returns with randomized LFO...

So, yeah, there's interesting stuff to still wring out of some of the 'classics'. :)

Anyway keep me (and us) in the loop on the D.T when it's ready. I just got a CV-19 band support check that probably would cover it plus a bit. :)
 
Got mine today too! I will pop the hood and get a number sometime soon. Only had a half hour or so to test drive, and was really pleased with the usable, full, fun tones. I always appreciate the extent of modulation/manipulation IE pedals are capable of, love that even at mellow settings, right off the bat, the AP hit the spot for me.
 
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The Oxide is still one of my favorite fuzz pedals. I sold mine a while back and wish I hadn't. Unfortunately, it's not regularly available now.

I'll eventually grab one. I'd like to have one in hand to play around with and since I'm sort of moving towards being a completist...

I came on here to share my excitement about buying an Oxide and lo and behold look at what I see. I wasn't even in the market for one of these but I found one for a price I couldn't pass up on. It was hard to find any good bass videos for it and I am not even sure what I am getting into with this but I am really excited. Not sure what else to say but I am really excited and I hope it gets here before the long weekend. Just wanted to share.

I have read of enough people saying it is a favourite I know it will a be good pedal. Whether or not it is my sound who knows? Took me over a year to really dial in the tone I love now with my Empress Heavy so you never really know right away. And after getting into the Ambient/delay type stuff recently with my delay I stumbled upon synth bass sounds and my mind was blown. That led me to gated fuzz and this Oxide. Still don't know why gated fuzz is so ideal but my journey has just begun. Only distortion, delay, flange, LS-2 and now my soon to be here Oxide. I was actually planning on buying a Xerograph Deluxe right before COVID hit and I had to be careful with my limited funds.

Sorry for the rambling I am just really excited. I don't really know why but I have always wanted an Iron Ether pedal. There is just something about them. They always seem really well thought out and something special.
 
A bit of a cross-post from my IE-AP thread. Got a chance to try out the Arcing Prisms today for a few moments, set up my phone to capture it so there's some kind of chance to hear what it does. Again, I didn't work up any bits or nail down any 'patches' or specific settings, this is just me goofing with the controls.

Got a few moments today to get into the music room and play around with the Arcing Prisms for the first time. Set up my phone to capture some of what at it does and maybe give everyone a feel for what kinds of sounds are in @Taylor Livingston 's little box in terms of bass fun.

First with no other effects:



Second with more of the kind of chain I'd work with. In this case, Frazz Dazzler fuzz into Xerograph Deluxe into Arcing Prisms into a Nimbus SE:



This isn't really meant to show off the 'playing' obviously since it's more or less a quick noodle, hold then knob twist but you can sort of get some vibe for what you could do with this.
 
I commented on a thread a while back (probably this one) about the prospect of a Subterranea with an octave up. Looks like you gone done it. And then some..

I completely missed that the DubT will have an octave up. I was sold upon hearing about the MKii just based on how much I dig my SubT and this is sweet icing on that cake. I’m on pins and needles, super stoked. I just need a Polytope to complete that synth chain. It would be nice to find an Oxide Lord knows, tuff tho.

As a side note/update I’ve been intermittently working with the Divaricator. I say intermittently because I have no idea what’s going to happen with the Rock gigs moving forward so I’m focusing on other things. But the night before last I was experimenting with the Divaricator, what’s in the loop, pedal order then D settings etc. and I found some combinations/settings that were so amazing, just huge. Actually very simple configurations but wow was I surprised by what I was hearing. Now I have a problem though, bypassed now sounds tiny. I mean when I took a break and came back to it with the D bypassed my basic tone sounded great, and it is but bringing the D back made it really hard to go back. This was supposed to be a special sound for guitar solos, and it will do that for sure but I may actually have to dumb down the Divaricator creations in that context. It’s that good and the disparity was that obvious. It is worth mentioning that some of the settings involved little to none of the clean signal mixed in, just Low and Hi (loop) out. I’ve had worse problems I suppose.

Stay safe everyone, Manny
 
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I look at the Shop every day, multiple times a day in anticipation of the Dubterranea release. I dig my IE stuff in a way that is somehow different than other pedals/gear that I use and may even really like. They kind of draw me in, and there’s a lot in there. My SubT and Xenograph D are my favorite pedals of all time. No doubt in my mind about that.
 
I look at the Shop every day, multiple times a day in anticipation of the Dubterranea release. I dig my IE stuff in a way that is somehow different than other pedals/gear that I use and may even really like. They kind of draw me in, and there’s a lot in there. My SubT and Xenograph D are my favorite pedals of all time. No doubt in my mind about that.

Yep, I'm sitting here in conference calls all day with the Shop page pinned to my browser....hitting F5 about every 3 minutes. I'm suddenly obsessed with the Dubterranea.....of course after it's released and I snag one, I'll still be sitting here doing the same thing until I see the Xerograph Deluxe come back in stock.