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Is an 810 worth it?

I used an 8x10 for about 20 years or better while I could carry and move it easily enough...I used it to compete with 2 full Dual-Rectifier stacks, oer even at low volume jazz gigs with a piano and flute. Then went to a 2x10 + 2x12 setup so I could still pull a 2 ohm load off my SVT2 Pro and get the tone at lower volumes. If you can transport it...up stairs...negotiate it around drummers, pianos and any other myriad of stuff onstage along with getting it in your vehicle, by all means, nothing competes with the tone and sound
 
I love my 8x10. In my opinion gear is all about inspiring your own personal voice...

The 8x10 coupled with an SVT tube head sound is what inspires me. When I listen to myself play bass in my imagination, you better believe I am ferociously blasting through my 8x10. Another added bonus of the 8x10; you will never have issues hearing yourself on stage. I've played shows where the live sound is absolute horrific but I always come through clear to myself.

Unfortunately because its so big, I don't get to use it all the time (I have a 4x10 for smaller club shows, and a Trace Elliot rig as well). If you are being as practical as possible, I'd recommend another set up. The 8x10 is pricey, tough to move, and requires A LOT of power.

Nevertheless, if it inspires you, don't hesitate; try it out. You can always resell; there is always someone out there about to take the 8x10 plunge.

Why would it require a lot of power? Quite a few people on here have powered theirs with V4's, which are only 100 watts.
 
I have 2 8x10's I use and when I have a small venue I use one. If the backline is the main source of sound for the mix, even if the volume is low, I get great punch and sound and I can EQ my tone to maximize punch, highs and lows at the lower volume. The big issue IMO is just the sheer size. If you are shoe horned into the corner of a small bar then probably not the Cab for that but for small stages and bigger places man I will never go back to the 4x10. The 8x10 moved so much more air and the clarity at volume is just much better. My Cabs are easy to move around with the handle in the back and I upgraded the wheels to industrial grade sealed bearing wheels and it rolls so nicely that it's nothing to load and unload. The only time it's a bitch is if you have to lift it more than just a couple feet. Or if you don't have tue transportation to haul it around.
 
It's weird. Some guys on TB enthusiastically discuss how their 1x12 cabs can handle virtually any outdoor festival, while some other guys would have you believe that their 165-lb 810 is totally worth hauling to every little neighborhood bar.

I'm not buying it. :hmm:

I get that everyone's situation is a little different. Your bandmates, your tone, your style of music, your PA support and a hundred other things can make one man's nightmare rig into another man's dream gear.

To me, an 810 cab is what you put on a stage or in a rehearsal space as a permanent piece of infrastructure, accommodating any bass players who play there. OR, it's what you have when someone else gets your rig from truck to stage and back again.

Guys with 1x12 cabs probably play coffee shops with acoustic guitars and small vocal PAs. And they need the second 1x12 cab for when someone orders a smoothie and the blender goes on. ;)

For me, I want a rig where 1 cab can reach minimum rock band volume and 2 cabs can accommodate larger stages and other higher volume needs. There may indeed be times when 1 cab may be over kill. And there may also be times when I wish my 2 cab rig had a little more to give. But the majority of times I'll have a rig that does me right--and one that I can still carry to and from my own car.

What does that look like? For most of us, we're probably talking two 115 cabs, two 2x10 cabs, two 2x12 cabs...even in some cases two 4x10 cabs. Myself, I'm building a two 2x12 cab rig.

Your mileage may vary, past performance is not an indicator of future returns, see your doctor, frequent heartburn may be a sign of serious illness, does not constitute a binding agreement, think before you drink, objects in mirror are closer than they appear, etc., etc., etc.
 
scottfeldstein said:
It's weird. Some guys on TB enthusiastically discuss how their 1x12 cabs can handle virtually any outdoor festival, while some other guys would have you believe that their 165-lb 810 is totally worth hauling to every little neighborhood bar.

I'm not buying it. :hmm:

I get that everyone's situation is a little different. Your bandmates, your tone, your style of music, your PA support and a hundred other things can make one man's nightmare rig into another man's dream gear.

To me, an 810 cab is what you put on a stage or in a rehearsal space as a permanent piece of infrastructure, accommodating any bass players who play there. OR, it's what you have when someone else gets your rig from truck to stage and back again.

Guys with 1x12 cabs probably play coffee shops with acoustic guitars and small vocal PAs. And they need the second 1x12 cab for when someone orders a smoothie and the blender goes on. ;)

For me, I want a rig where 1 cab can reach minimum rock band volume and 2 cabs can accommodate larger stages and other higher volume needs. There may indeed be times when 1 cab may be over kill. And there may also be times when I wish my 2 cab rig had a little more to give. But the majority of times I'll have a rig that does me right--and one that I can still carry to and from my own car.

What does that look like? For most of us, we're probably talking two 115 cabs, two 2x10 cabs, two 2x12 cabs...even in some cases two 4x10 cabs. Myself, I'm building a two 2x12 cab rig.

Your mileage may vary, past performance is not an indicator of future returns, see your doctor, frequent heartburn may be a sign of serious illness, does not constitute a binding agreement, think before you drink, objects in mirror are closer than they appear, etc., etc., etc.

I agree with everything you stated here. Everyone has a different situation and play either the same venue or many varying venues. It's definitely what works for the individual. What I love about TB is we can share our experiences and opinions about how we view all these issues and deal with them. If I had
 
How did that work for you? Worth doing again or interesting experiment?
Bryan
An interesting experiment that's worth doing again ;) I haven't done it on a gig because if I'm going to use the B-15, I'm going to use the B-15 cabs I have, and if I use the 810, I'm going to use my SVT. But back when I was using my 410 I used the B-15 with it numerous times, and it was always fantastic.