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Is anyone else completely in love with their tone?

Interesting that most tone comments are about gear rather than technique.

I've never understood that because good gear sounds bad in bad hands, and ok gear can sound great in the right hands. I think gear only matters if you have a tonal ideal in your head, but you probably find you are pulled towards that on whatever you play. Type of gear gives you a flavour but rest is up to you. A lot of tone comes from transients in your attack, the set up of the bass, and how your string choice complements that.

Don't flame me, I still like gear of course :)
Oh, certainly.

I have a very specific finger plucking technique that gets me the tone I want, I use that technique for the sake of tone, not for comfort or out of habit.

I play with a rather light touch, more so stroking the strings, with the outmost tip of my fingers/nails, in a slight inward light slapping motion, rather than really plucking/striking or pulling the strings.

This gives gives me a much richer tone, with an almost bell like attack, and actually sounds way more aggressive than the thud sound I get if I pluck harder with a larger portion of my fingers.

Gives me optimal dynamic control too, depending on the speed and force I stroke the strings with, but always only with the outmost tip of my fingers/nails.

One issue with this technique though is that I found the length is crucial for it to work, so that the length my nails have to be really specific, like exactly flush with the outmost tip of the fingers, so that what hits the string is both the outmost tip of my fleshy finger tip and the very tip/edge of the nail, too short or too long nails and my tone is ruined, respectively either getting thuddy or clacky, instead of clear and bell like.

Still I also have very specific preferences when it comes to the tone I get from my gear, which though I predominantly attain from mostly budget gear, or at least fairly affordable gear.

When you know you tonal preferences and know how to get there, exactly what gear gets you there definitely matters much less.
 
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To compliment my hands, I use:

Serek Midwestern (flats) > Lusithand Alma compressor > Broughton Super Stack > GSS Baby Sumo > Ampeg 2x12

Took me a long time to get here. Played for decades with a pick on rounds but as I’ve gotten older things have mutated. Finger style, short scale, flats, compression, tube preamp have all been game-changers.
 
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I had a bit of a realization earlier today while I was practicing. I don't need to buy any more gear. The tone I'm getting from my Spector NS Ethos HP 4 through my Ampeg RB-110 is that "pure magic" I've been looking for for the last 30 years. Is anyone else fortunate enough to find their magic?
No, and I sincerely hope I never do. The process of incremental improvement is my primary driver as both player and gear builder, and has been for quite some time. ;)
 
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There is too much difference in what "tone" is for me personally to be happy with one tone in one context. Sitting in a practice room I could be happy with the tone of a straight P with flats as much as I could be happy with an Alembic through a compressor and OD pedal. Then there's tone when making recordings in a full mix, which may work with your solo tone or may not. Then there's live gig mix which changes room to room vs outdoor and can make your practice room tone sound like crap.

So that's a no from me about one "magic" tone, but I have found many faves: A Sadowsky PJ or Will Lee at a gig through GK and F112s, or the same recorded no matter what the effects or lack of effects, a Geddy JB with compression and OD on recordings, making an Alembic spoiler sound like Entwistle, making a P Bass with flats sound like the 60s and 70s, etc etc.

I do agree that the right gear gets you the happy tone.
 
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In a controlled environment sure. In a live setting, almost never. Occasionally an unexpected gestalt occurs and the sound is awesome. My advice is enjoy it when it happens and avoid attributing it to any specific factor. Usually it is a result of several factors that are beyond your control.
 
“My sound” is my Aria SB-1000 into an EBS multicomp and a SansAmp Bass Driver & Para Driver in parallel, using both XLR outs into two channels on the mixing desk. It is killer. Between the EQ controls on the SansAmps and the Aria’s internal preamp I can get almost any style of bass tone I want from metal to jazz. I use a very specific & difficult technique to play though, I hammer at the strings really hard, using the very tips of my fingers and hitting the strings with the flesh and fingernail simultaneously.
 
I'm happy with my basses which articulate 60's and 70's Jazzes very well.
I can even get a nice P bass tone from the 70's style Jazz.
I find I groove in the way I sound the more I use that particular bass. I'm 15-18 months into that on the 70's bass. The 60's bass was much quicker out the box.

My practice rig is very different from my gig rig but I run them pretty centered on the dials. I will not say 'flat' but in truth they probably are close to it.
The speakers are 10's v 12's.

My next task is to get the action spot on from the saddles. Do not plan on truss rod work atm.

I consider the basses as tone monsters...which is what the maker promised and delivered...and serve up many subtle variations just from the onboard controls, starting from VVT config.

So whilst I enjoy looking at new basses, amps and cabs, I have just dismissed a Lull j5 ...imv, pretty desirable...as just not needed.

So, to the OP, yeah.
 
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Interesting that most tone comments are about gear rather than technique.

I've never understood that because good gear sounds bad in bad hands, and ok gear can sound great in the right hands. I think gear only matters if you have a tonal ideal in your head, but you probably find you are pulled towards that on whatever you play. Type of gear gives you a flavour but rest is up to you. A lot of tone comes from transients in your attack, the set up of the bass, and how your string choice complements that.

Don't flame me, I still like gear of course :)


IMHO tone and gear are both significant factors. Some gear is heavily voiced and lacking transparency. So much of the nuance you create with technique can be lost. If you rely on the sound coming from your rig as feedback, the coloration and lack of transparency can really throw you off. Basically you do something that should create a certain sound, and the rig is incapable of reproducing it.

Example: I prefer more of a full-range, high-fidelity system so I can hear a lot of nuance in my playing. The first rig I ever bought was a brand new MTI era SVT and 810, which is heavily voice and has limited bandwidth. I wanted the best, and the research I did pointed to the SVT and 810.

I gave a down payment and had the rig special ordered. When it arrived, the store called and invited me to try it out. To my surprise, it sounded awful! It was so bad that I wondered if it was a black market fake or perhaps broken. Over the years I have played other SVTs and 810s and now I recognize that is just how they sound. While millions of people love the sound, it's not for me :eek::sour::vomit:.

For the record I own a 69 and 87 SVT and IMHO they sound great with other cabs. I wouldn't mind having a Heritage 810 in my collection, but I wouldn't want to gig one. It's iconic, but still not my sound.
 
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I had a bit of a realization earlier today while I was practicing. I don't need to buy any more gear. The tone I'm getting from my Spector NS Ethos HP 4 through my Ampeg RB-110 is that "pure magic" I've been looking for for the last 30 years. Is anyone else fortunate enough to find their magic?
That would be me. I'm an old fart and have been playing bass since 1965 although there was a 20-year gap in there for raising a family.

I absolutely love the sound I get out of my 1982 Olympic White Jazz Bass with its white bound, all-maple neck, and its 70's era pickup spacing of 4" center to center, that I bought in 1985. My previous "best bass" was my 1965 Jazz that I bought in 1966. Unfortunately it was stolen from me along with all my touring gear in 1976. It took me almost 10-years to find another Jazz bass with that same 60's Slim C-shape neck with a 7.25" radius and another 12-years to come up with an amp I could gig. When I picked my "White Lady" off the wall to try it out, it just felt like coming home. ALL the Jazz basses I'd tried since mine was stolen in '76 had fat necks - same width, but looked like they'd been overeating for years and just felt bad to me really uncomfortable to play and not that far away from having a P-bass neck.

So I was pleased as punch to find it. I had no amp until 1997 when I started gigging again. As I slowly improved my gear I finally realized I had something special with this bass besides the great neck on it. In 2008 I got my first Eden amp, a Nemesis RS400. The clarity and the clean sound of that amp really let me hear what my bass was sounding like even though I didn't have great cabs. A couple of years later I bought my "big" Eden amp, my WT500/800. Because it is a dual powerblock amp, I'd plug the boomy GK115bpx in one channel and the previously "starved for bass EQ" acoustic B410 and adjust the mix of sound with the balance knob. That allowed me to send less power to the 115 while giving the 410 100%. Then I could run the Bass EQ at flat. Prior to that I had to cut the bass EQ down to 10 o'clock to make that 115 usable. That improved the sound a fair amount because I wasn't starving my B410 cab anymore, so I gigged with that set-up for the next 5-years and was pretty happy.

Then in 2015 I got my first DNA cab, a DNS-410. And now my bass sound was crystal clear. I thought it was clear before but when I plugged it into my DNS-410 driven by my big Eden amp bridged at 800-wats rms into it, it sounded like I'd just removed a blanket from over my speakers. My bass is so clear through that, that I can actually hear all 3 distinct notes when I play bass chords. I also get told to turn down at music festivals when using just my 410 if I set the master on my WT500/800 at 10:30, and it's still crystal clear above that. Plus the clarity a those higher levels is just remarkable. The little changes I make with how I pluck the strings and where I pluck them; how I fret the notes, and how I mute them; the ability to play softly, play loud, or make my bass growl; all of those are right there and easy initiate and easy to hear.

The upshot is that as I got better and better gear, I got to hear what my bass was actually capable of. My '82 Jazz has a bit of a brighter sound than my '65 did, and I attribute that to the 70's era pickup spacing that puts the bridge pickup almost 1/2" closer to the bridge. It also has night and day better sustain than my '65 did, and I presume that's due to the all-maple neck. Whatever the reason is, it is a happy combination of all the right features combining to give me just the BEST sound out of my bass.

In 2019, I played a 3-hour recording session at a pro-studio in Seattle and they wouldn't let me use my DNS-410 because they had both bass and drums in the same room and were concerned about bleed over between the channels. So they wanted me to go direct to their board by plugging into the wall using one of their DI's. I agreed but insisted upon using my own DI (WTDI) that has a built-in Eden WT preamp. I set everything flat on that but boosted the low mids at 500Hz up to 1:30, which is not a lot but makes a difference in my sound. They reluctantly agreed and I played through it for the entire recording session.

At the end of the session they had me listen to the raw takes through some specific headphones and asked what I thought. I told them it sounded like the bass EQ was slightly boosted but it was super clear and not muddy at all and I thought it sounded great. Then both the sound engineer and the owner of the studio came out to see what I was using and they said that the sound they recorded for the bass was exactly the signal that I sent to them. They didn't EQ it or compress it at all. The only thing they adjusted was the level on the track.

So, yeah, I love the sound of my bass and its ability to accurately portray the subtleties and dynamics of sound that I strive to portray. I did put in my will that my '82 Jazz was to be given to my oldest son who is one of the very few people I've allowed to play it. He's one of those rare musicians that can make anything sound good, including a hollow rock with three holes in it...

I've posted this picture multiple times before, but here's my White Lady:

WhiteLadyOutside2.jpg
 
I've always concentrated on sounding like me and over the years I've tried that with EBMM, Modulus, Alembic, Rickenbacker. As it turns out, all I've ever wanted was a P bass with Flats. I have an American Pro that I just equipped with a Lindy Fralin and I absolutely love it. Almost as much as I love my American Pro Jazz that I just equipped with Aguilar AG 4J-60s.
 
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I had a bit of a realization earlier today while I was practicing. I don't need to buy any more gear. The tone I'm getting from my Spector NS Ethos HP 4 through my Ampeg RB-110 is that "pure magic" I've been looking for for the last 30 years. Is anyone else fortunate enough to find their magic?
Well...
"Love" is a pretty strong word. And, I'm not a serious enough musician to go that far. "Like a lot", OTHOH? Yeah, I can go that far. Out of 27 basses and 4 guitars, there are only... about 4... that I don't "like a lot". And, that includes one bass and one guitar that are currently in pieces - so, there's no tone to like, at the moment. When they're back together - and have strings? I know the strings they'll wear, so... yeah, I'll probably like their tone a lot... As for the other 2? I will probably never like their tone much at all; never mind a lot...
- '94 Gretsch Broadkaster. For some insane reason, Gretsch put the same pickups in it, that they put in their big, hollow body "professional" guitars. Which is probably why, in 12 years of trying, I never found strings that made it sound like a real bass. Best I could manage was making it sound like a baritone guitar - with light strings. Which is not what a big (same body as their G6119 Tennessean guitar) hollow body bass should sound like. I finally got it to sound fairly "Bass-ish" with a set of TI Jazz Rounds. I do not like round wound strings - bass or guitar - at all. The TIJR's are "tolerable - at best. It doesn't sound like it should - or that I would like it to sound; but, after 12 years of changing strings and spending more $$'s than I want to think about (I tried a Lot of strings on it), I'll take what I got...
- 2002 Starfire violin bass. A very cheap, generic Chinese violin bass, that I didn't buy to actually play. I got it to act as a musical "cadaver"; something that I could learn to do things other than simple set ups and adjustments on. Without screwing up one of my "real" basses... Surprisingly, it survived everything I did to it; so I put a set of La Bella 760FS mediums on it; and tuned it up. It plays... well, about like you'd expect a beat up, $130 Chinese bass to play. However, the bridge - a piece of knife-edged wood with 4 notches in it - will not intonate - at all. If I cock it at about a 45 degree angle, it will tune up - barely; and, I can almost get the E and G strings to intonate, but that's it. So, no... I do not like the tone...
As for everything else? Yes, I do like each of their tones - a lot... :whistle:
 
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In a controlled environment sure. In a live setting, almost never. Occasionally an unexpected gestalt occurs and the sound is awesome. My advice is enjoy it when it happens and avoid attributing it to any specific factor. Usually it is a result of several factors that are beyond your control.
I'm definitely in a similar situation as Wasnex and others who are reporting the same.

For controlled environments like sessions and IEM tone, I am very happy and have not chased any new gear influences for the past 6 years or so.
Live is a different animal (other than what I hear via IEMs). Just too many variables that I don't control (room influence, backline, FOH/PA techs etc etc) for me to get too revved up about, and ultimately I find I am very happy with my live tone maybe 80% of the time. The other 20% is pretty much "do what you can with what you get "... and that seems to work out ok to for the gigs too. I rarely walk off a set and feel like the bass tone sucked.

FWIW, While I have several different gear combinations, I use the following for 90% of my work:

Bass (Lull M4V with very dead rounds, or Roscoe Beck IV with new rounds) => Cali76 => VT => Noble => FOH and Mesa WD800/Berg NV212t (if I'm using my own rig) ... or FOH.

Makes me a happy bass player, and seems to make the bands and sound techs happy too.
 
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It's interesting. I am 50 something, I have been playing bass most of my life and have never been completely satisfied with my tone. I've tried numerous basses, strings, amps, playing styles, and while sometimes I get close, I always manage to find some sonic imperfection that will slowly make me crazy.

One thing I have learned is it's more about me than the things. Everything makes a difference, but primarily it comes from the player.

I agree with this, and it's always an eye opener to me, when somebody else picks up my bass, and I'm surprised that it can even sound like that, lol. Of course, it will always sound different depending on where you are standing in relation to your amp, but still.
 
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