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Is Eldrick Woods done being the best?

#61
I walked with him for his round on Saturday. He's looking pretty good. He's controlled and consistent. His swing didn't look erratic either. Personally, I was glad to see him win. One thing I will say though, and this kind of left a sour taste, his pr controllers are nazi's. Phones are allowed on the course (of course they have to be silenced and you can't be talking on them in areas that are within earshot of the game), but pictures and video are NOT allowed. All the other players were fairly relaxed with it. A couple of players (Haas, Casey) actually stopped and gave a quick wave for a couple of fans with an 'illegal' cell phone camera. But the security around Tiger was ridiculous. First off, he had to CHP officers walking the course with him. Then he had a flock of what I referred to as 'blue meanies'. These dudes were simply there to take people's phones away. One came up to me, and tried to take my phone. I told him to f off. We followed tiger for 14 holes and then went and watched the players come in on the 18th green (yes, I witnessed Zach Johnson's 161 yard eagle into the cup :bassist:). I didn't hear any remarks, or even under their breath cracks about his past extra curricular activities in his personal life. Not one. Everyone there was cheering Tiger on, and rooting for him to do well. When Tiger finally came in to the eighteenth hole, I saw one of his blue meanies carrying a mesh backpack full of cell phones. There must have been hundreds in there. Totally ridiculous. Tiger could do with a new look at his PR philosophy. This aspect of his career used to be controlled by his Dad, Earl, but now that he's gone, I think it needs updating. Haas and Casey both understood that those quick little shots would end up on FB and that this kind of press is free marketing. Tiger could save a lot of money by dumping a lot of the personnel he has walking with him and opening up a little. It's never going to be as bad as it was when he was going through his divorce. There were a lot of little kids that were kind of soured by the whole experience IMO. Just my two cents. But again, I'm glad to see him with another win under his belt. First one in over two years.
 
#63
I watched more golf yesterday than football. Finishing birdie - birdie for the win was pretty cool. Also, he didn't have his best ball striking day and was still able to get it done. It wasn't all vintage Tiger, but the last two "must make" putts were.
 
#64
MJ5150 said:
Did people get their cell phones back after his round? Did Tiger interact with any of the crowd?

That is way cool about seeing Zach's eagle. I'm jealous.

-Mike
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They were putting stickers on the phones, but I'm not sure what the criteria was for getting the phones back, or where they had to go to get them. Tiger did not interact with the crowd at all. While most of the other pros were pretty receptive (within reason) Tiger was all focus. Besides there was no way of getting near him because of all the blue meanies and security. He did toss his ball to the crowd at the end, but that's it. There were also a lot of kids all decked out in fluorescent orange Fowler outfits too.

Zach's eagle was crazy. He was a figure in the distance that we could see on the fairway. They had him on the jumbotron too. Then you could see the ball coming in. It was easily only about 40 feet from where I was sitting. Saw if plop down and then watched it 'kink' into the flag pole and drop in the hole. The hole crowd just erupted. It was really cool. Everyone was cheering him as he walked onto the green. I felt really bad for Choi, because there was no way he was going to top that performance and he had quite a long putt in front of him.
 
#65
bottomzone said:
No. Tiger has had slumps before and people-some cheerfully-wrote him off. Those same people scraped their knees and ankles jumping back on the bandwagon. Jerry West once told a young Magic Johnson that the same people that pat you on the back when you're up will kick you in the teeth when you're down. What ever issues, new or old, that he is dealing with, he is so mentally tough that I'm confident that Tiger will be on the prowl once again with a vengence!
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:D:D:D


A Groove is a Terrible Thing to Waste! :cool:
 
#72
posted on 08/08/2010
Dr. Cheese said:
Maybe, we'll know for sure in another two years.
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Now two wins inside of six months. I am thinking that if I was a golfer and saw that red shirt on Sunday I would be worried. but I am no expert on golf. Watching on Sundays when that red shirt appeared on the screen reminds me of when I watched Team USA at the 1980 Olympics when the only thing about hockey I knew was playing the board game when we got tired of electric football when we were kids.
 
#73
WOOT! WOOT! Big comeback and legendary Sunday from Tiger today. That chip on 16...aye carumba. He sure looked like the unbeatable Tiger from days gone by today. Here is a look at the amazing shot, frickin' unreal. The announcer even said "that was sick" :) : [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Now he is tied with Nicklaus for career PGA wins, and looks sharp for the U.S. Open in two weeks.

-Mike
 
#77
Not an excuse for Tiger not winning*, but the changes made to Doral aren't that great. Watching that ridonkulous Donald Trump get interviewed Saturday made me wish I wasn't a golf fan. What a tool. Some golf overlord needs to take away Trump's right to build and change courses and fire him. In a rocket aimed at the sun.

*Tiger is still one of the greatest to ever have played the game. He's one of those guys that if he slides a little, the questions about whether or not he'll be good again are automatic. I don't think he will pass Jack, but anything is possible.

When will Bubba win again? No wins since The Masters awhile back.
 
#79
I never liked the guy. Too arrogant. My golf heroes are gentlemen, and I find that pretty much all the players are; they conduct themselves well and keep themselves pretty much under control. I remember seeing Tiger on the 17th tee leading the US Open at Pebble Beach by something like 8 strokes in the 3rd round. He hooked his shot into the ocean, and yelled "Tiger, you f***ing turkey" clearly and loudly. When he was missing shots (rarely) he would make a point of spitting whenever the camera was on him. I would enjoy tournaments like a lot of others a lot more with him in them than not because I loved to watch him lose (rarely). When his marital problems hit, I really didn't think it would effect his play because he's so tough mentally and such a phenom with his game. Much to my surprise it did. Now with the injuries he's encountered along with and since those marital problems, I don't think he'll regain the momentum that was carrying him along to historic greatness such as the world of golf had ever seen. I was impressed with how he seemed to be humbled by the experience he went through (who wouldn't given the circumstances and the public scrutiny attached to it), and started to root for him to win, but I've seen flashes of the old Tiger attitude here in there in the last year (mouthing and saying under his breath "f***" while walking off the tee at The Open, shouting G** D***** at the gallery when they snapped a picture in his downswing at another), so I'm back to watching him to see him lose. Besides, there are guys out there like Furyk, Mickelson, Rory, Kayman, Bubba, and a whole lot of others who have way more class, and maybe more talent (now) that I'd prefer to see win. No one could intimidate a whole field (except for Nicklaus) like Tiger could. That Masters that he won by a dozen or so strokes was an example of this. As good as those, and other guys are, I don't think they could intimidate a whole field the way those 2 guys could and influence the play of competitors because of that factor.
 
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He's too good of a golfer to ever really say he's done. My view is that a lot of the younger players have caught up to him, physically speaking, and his ability to crush the ball. The game and Father Time have caught up to him.
 

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