Always used. The more the guitar was played usually means the better it is.
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Is Fender American worth it?
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The marketing Dept. would never stoop to that level.Yeah. I think it's a little strange too. It's like they're counting on us having this argument.
I've read about needing a permit to take a guitar over the border. Apparently endangered wood sounds better.Nope, they're all garbage. That's why the company never made a dime and had to go overseas for their manufacturing. Didn't help either when all that gun control legislation came in and you couldn't buy bullet strings without a permit.
Probably one of the most ignorant comments on basses ever. Sounds like a sleazy car salesman line...
I heard that alot buying vintage Fenders. It's well known the beaters were worn out for a reason. If you think that's ignorant, that's ok.
True! One man's "worn out"/"beater" is another's "used up".
I've found used, no matter what, is still as much of a crap shoot as any new, including vintage. If you've never picked up a vintage/used instrument that, despite the "survivor theory", wasn't used up and worth far less than advertised, count your blessings.. You're the luckiest man on earth.
I'll just be over here taking the crap shoot that has built in returns if I'm not 100% pleased and a lifetime warranty.
All used basses were once new anyway and I guarantee that they played as good or better then.
I've found used, no matter what, is still as much of a crap shoot as any new, including vintage. If you've never picked up a vintage/used instrument that, despite the "survivor theory", wasn't used up and worth far less than advertised, count your blessings.. You're the luckiest man on earth.
I'll just be over here taking the crap shoot that has built in returns if I'm not 100% pleased and a lifetime warranty.
All used basses were once new anyway and I guarantee that they played as good or better then.
Yes, they're all the same and Fender only charges different (higher) prices because they can.
Sure it sounds better, but as much as it's worth, I'm always petrified to play it.
The thing with that is people pay for old time-dryed 50+ yr old wood, as opposed to kiln dried "green" wood. Not an opinion, just sayin. The only issue I've had was a 1960 stack knob that had completely worn out frets that the guy didn't mention. It was unplayable but I wasn't going to return it for the cost of a fretjob. I eventually sold it for 10x what I paid and I knew I would. It wasn't used up or a crapshoot. The only real unknown quantity is the trussrod. Buy from a reputable dealer.True! One man's "worn out"/"beater" is another's "used up".
I've found used, no matter what, is still as much of a crap shoot as any new, including vintage. If you've never picked up a vintage/used instrument that, despite the "survivor theory", wasn't used up and worth far less than advertised, count your blessings.. You're the luckiest man on earth.
I'll just be over here taking the crap shoot that has built in returns if I'm not 100% pleased and a lifetime warranty.
All used basses were once new anyway and I guarantee that they played as good or better then.
Or he could split the difference between "Off The Rack" and "Custom Shop" by getting something fairly customized through the Fender American Design Experience.
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Bob knows, if I ever hit a big windfall of cash or some gi-normous lottery win, you'd better believe I'm going to hit that up!
Easy solution…Parts-Bass Buffet! Choose a little from "Column A", a bit from "Column B" and season it with a judicial sprinkling from "Column C".
In order…yes, then not exactly.
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Eh, there's not much to discuss really. Paul created the first-ever electric model, but Leo created the first commercially viable model.
Alert, one of my pet peeves just happened in this thread.
I've NEVER seen anyone say "Squiers/Mexican Fenders are better than American Made Fenders" on TB. I can admit there might be a troll here or there that says that just to piss people off, but I've never met/seen anyone who seriously believes that. What I have seen are people saying something like "My Mexican Fender is good enough for me, I don't want a Fender MIA". Or, "This particular thing about my MIM instrument is better for me".
Honestly, I feel like this person who says "Squiers/Mexican Fenders are better than Fender MIAs" is completely made-up by insecure Fender MIA owners who are offended people could possibly have different preferences than their own. Other people's opinions shouldn't affect your enjoyment of what you have that much.
Fender has done great things improving quality control in the MIM and Squier lines these days. They're a good, smart company so why wouldn't they? There was a time when a MIM kinda sucked, but that IS NOT TRUE ANYMORE. This isn't the 1990s anymore.
A Fender MIM Standard is one heck of a bass considering the price. I'm pretty sure they use old American factory equipment and some parts to make them. The Mexican factory is only like 190 miles away from the American Fender plant!!! Don't you think they cut costs by giving the Mexican plant some hand-me-downs? The pickups used for example are off old MIA designs.
For the vast majority of bassists, a MIM will work just fine. The majority made recently sound good, take a setup and play comfortably just like a bass should. Anything beyond that is personal preference. There are things that make MIAs better in some ways, but that doesn't mean they are better for everyone or better in every single way.
There's nothing wrong with buying a MIA, and there's nothing wrong with buying a MIM. If price is of any concern the MIM might be the better bass for you, and there is nothing wrong with that AT ALL. You'll get a fine bass either way.
I've NEVER seen anyone say "Squiers/Mexican Fenders are better than American Made Fenders" on TB. I can admit there might be a troll here or there that says that just to piss people off, but I've never met/seen anyone who seriously believes that. What I have seen are people saying something like "My Mexican Fender is good enough for me, I don't want a Fender MIA". Or, "This particular thing about my MIM instrument is better for me".
Honestly, I feel like this person who says "Squiers/Mexican Fenders are better than Fender MIAs" is completely made-up by insecure Fender MIA owners who are offended people could possibly have different preferences than their own. Other people's opinions shouldn't affect your enjoyment of what you have that much.
Fender has done great things improving quality control in the MIM and Squier lines these days. They're a good, smart company so why wouldn't they? There was a time when a MIM kinda sucked, but that IS NOT TRUE ANYMORE. This isn't the 1990s anymore.
A Fender MIM Standard is one heck of a bass considering the price. I'm pretty sure they use old American factory equipment and some parts to make them. The Mexican factory is only like 190 miles away from the American Fender plant!!! Don't you think they cut costs by giving the Mexican plant some hand-me-downs? The pickups used for example are off old MIA designs.
For the vast majority of bassists, a MIM will work just fine. The majority made recently sound good, take a setup and play comfortably just like a bass should. Anything beyond that is personal preference. There are things that make MIAs better in some ways, but that doesn't mean they are better for everyone or better in every single way.
There's nothing wrong with buying a MIA, and there's nothing wrong with buying a MIM. If price is of any concern the MIM might be the better bass for you, and there is nothing wrong with that AT ALL. You'll get a fine bass either way.
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Do you think the same Way about lakland, gibson, PRS, Ibáñez, Musicman, G&L, sadowsky, FODERA, Ritter, Ken smith, Mike LULL etc etc etc? So they all charge from 1000 to 15000 for the same $200/300 bass? And only Squire is the company who is going to take all us to the promised land? Is that What you aré implying?
Here's two from this very thread:
So, have you still never seen it? Is it still a pet peeve?
