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Is there such a thing as a light weight 8x10?

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Sure there have, there is/was a Fender Bassman 810 and Genz Benz Uber 810, both used Neo drivers.
 
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How light would the wood have to be to be considered 'lightweight'? I mean, however you look at it, an 8x10 cabinet is large structure that has to support itself, the speakers, the hardware, and be strong enough to be dragged around and dumped into trucks and whatnot.

The idea of an 8x10 is appealing but wholly impractical for me. I don't play big outdoor gigs often enough to justify it (and even if I did, I'd just get another 4x10 or a 2x12 to add to my rig and I'd be covered - at least I can fit 2 4x10s into my car separately). If I go on tour and there are roadies and a big enough trailer/truck, sure I'll get an 8x10 from the backline company. They look awesome on stage. If I'm on tour and will be doing my own carrying however, I'll stick to a Neo 410, considering most places I play are on the smaller side. Last tour I got an EBS Neoline 4x10 and it was perfect with my Mesa D800.

Having said that, it seems that Barefaced have managed to get their 8x10 down to the same weight as an older Ashdown ABM 410, which is an incredible achievement and to be honest, I don't think it's feasible to bring it any lower without compromising structural integrity until there are some serious advances in materials technology. Tell someone 15 years ago that an 8x10 would weigh 36kg and they'd laugh at you, but here we are.
 
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jmattbassplaya said:
I had the 6x10 cab. Really nice sound, and the weight was incredible. The only downside to that cab was that it didn't have built-in casters.
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The CL 108 does have casters, and it's a really nice-sounding 8x10. Kind of like a somewhat more refined SVT-810e. Mine weighs in at 90 lbs.
 
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Jazz Ad said:
I'm curious about the 15" speaker that has +6dB of sensitivity and SPL over the average 10" speaker.
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I would consider the ampeg 810 to be a fairly common/standard 810. Eminence makes a speaker that is considered to be a fairly 1:1 drop in. So lets call this "average" shall we?

Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker

Sensitivity 92.7 dB/w/m

Compare that to an outstanding 15 also made by eminence:

Speaker Detail | Eminence Speaker

Sensitivity 100.8 dB/w/m

You are looking at a massive difference in weight of drivers alone, not to mention 90 pounds difference in actual cabinet weight.
 
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In response to the above remark re 2 x15 that's as loud as an 810.... (efficient . ..loud. ..whatever)
Maybe it's me. ... but I get a heap more clean volume outta my V4B with my 2 Fender Bassman Pro Neo 115 cabs stacked than when I use my SVT810E with same amp. The 115s weigh about 48lb each iirc.
I've also had them loaded with Eminence 3015 drivers. (sounded good but I put the original ones back in) & these were even louder than the stock ones. .. tho very similar .
Ymmv . ...just my observations . Of course, I may be totally wrong. that's a given. ..

&... I ain't saying that I don't like the SVT810E . .. I often take it just FOR that break up it gives. Love it.
But for clean. . I can't beat my 2 Fender Bassman Pro Neo cabs . Even my Berg NV215 (sealed 215 +adjustable mid driver ) won't go as quite as loud, CLEAN as em. But that's another kettle of eels
 
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NeonVomit said:
How light would the wood have to be to be considered 'lightweight'? I mean, however you look at it, an 8x10 cabinet is large structure that has to support itself, the speakers, the hardware, and be strong enough to be dragged around and dumped into trucks and whatnot.

The idea of an 8x10 is appealing but wholly impractical for me. I don't play big outdoor gigs often enough to justify it (and even if I did, I'd just get another 4x10 or a 2x12 to add to my rig and I'd be covered - at least I can fit 2 4x10s into my car separately). If I go on tour and there are roadies and a big enough trailer/truck, sure I'll get an 8x10 from the backline company. They look awesome on stage. If I'm on tour and will be doing my own carrying however, I'll stick to a Neo 410, considering most places I play are on the smaller side. Last tour I got an EBS Neoline 4x10 and it was perfect with my Mesa D800.

Having said that, it seems that Barefaced have managed to get their 8x10 down to the same weight as an older Ashdown ABM 410, which is an incredible achievement and to be honest, I don't think it's feasible to bring it any lower without compromising structural integrity until there are some serious advances in materials technology. Tell someone 15 years ago that an 8x10 would weigh 36kg and they'd laugh at you, but here we are.
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An 810 still sounds awesome at low volumes.
 
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