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Is this gig even worth the effort?

I'll play devil's advocate. Guitarist hears about "this great gig" and figures if he doesn't accept it right then and there - his band's missing out on The Opportunity Of A Lifetime!
Then the rest of the band starts complaining about "no money, it's too far, yadaa-yadda"....he gets butthurt and will swear to never try and help you horrible bastards again.
Is he wrong? No, just naive and maybe a bit dumb. I'm thinking these you're still lads and he doesn't know better.
The gig may not be worth it, but just maybe something great will happen as a result. Nothing great will happen staying home and complaining.
These lessons are part of the process and the band should make sure to set down rules going forward, but I reckon the guy had nothing but good intentions, but just isn't very bright.
Good luck and I hope it's a fantastic show and something good happens as a result! Give them your best 25 minute set!
 
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So my guitarists set a gig for us that’s 2 1/2 hours drive to and from... for only 30 minutes.... 30 goddamn minutes, 3/5 of our songs we will be able to play... and no we are not getting paid, it’s for charity but my issue had nothing to do with getting paid, it’s driving for almost 5 hours for 30 minutes of “exposure” despite the fact we stil haven’t finished recording our ep/album/demo/whateverhedecidesitis.

I usually have to drag the guitarist around and his rig because he doesn’t have a car.

im very heated and am upset, We’ve had worser sudden gigs but this is ridiculous.
While I get the frustration, we're in an area where the venues for live music are becoming increasingly rare, so just playing live has become more and more of a treat, even shorter sets and venues that are a bit of a haul. I love the experience and that's probably because we haven't done a ton of shows, but I would say, yes, go for it!
 
So my guitarists set a gig for us that’s 2 1/2 hours drive to and from... for only 30 minutes.... 30 goddamn minutes, 3/5 of our songs we will be able to play... and no we are not getting paid, it’s for charity but my issue had nothing to do with getting paid, it’s driving for almost 5 hours for 30 minutes of “exposure” despite the fact we stil haven’t finished recording our ep/album/demo/whateverhedecidesitis.

I usually have to drag the guitarist around and his rig because he doesn’t have a car.

im very heated and am upset, We’ve had worser sudden gigs but this is ridiculous.
If you really want to be in this band and Find success you should probably do it
 
There was no discussion about taking the gig?
Or did you get outvoted?

Personally, I'd just say no.
That may lead to you needing to find another band, but that might be a good thing.

I agree with Oddly. It is possible that if asked, I *might* find a reason to say yes, but it would have to be a very, very good reason..like a major charity that I was highly devoted to.

2.5 hours each way is 5 hours, plus setup time, plus playing time, plus teardown.

A full day's driving and work for nothing and only 30 minutes to play?

Time to pull off one shoe, pound it on the table and yell VETO!! VETO!!

(For the yout's out there, ref: Nikita Khruschev. Look it up: Shoe-banging incident - Wikipedia.)
 
I agree with Oddly. It is possible that if asked, I *might* find a reason to say yes, but it would have to be a very, very good reason..like a major charity that I was highly devoted to.

2.5 hours each way is 5 hours, plus setup time, plus playing time, plus teardown.

A full day's driving and work for nothing and only 30 minutes to play?

Time to pull off one shoe, pound it on the table and yell VETO!! VETO!!

(For the yout's out there, ref: Nikita Khruschev. Look it up: Shoe-banging incident - Wikipedia.)

You forgot all the time spent waiting for the other bands to stop.
 
I disagree. If he takes his ball and goes home on this gig, he's putting other people out and will become the bad guy. If he does the gig and then calmly explains how he would rather handle future gigs, he takes the high road. After that, he's earned the right to refuse others like it in any situation.
High road still cost dollars, time and a lot of sweat to set up, break down asap. Manners are only any good when they are returned, owned by the other person.
 
I apologise in advance for this being a long post, but please stick with me here...

I'm in my 50s, and have a grown-up job that pays pretty well. I did the full-on music thing in my teens and 20s but for the last 35-odd years music has been more for fun that profit. Sometimes, due to jobs that involved a lot of travel, I didn't play with other people for a couple of years at a time. Sometimes, though working a regular job, I still had a couple of music projects on the go and jammed, rehearsed and gigged several times a week. But I have long since given up the dream that I'm going to become a full time rock star. These days I have a regular covers band that gigs locally and I make enough money from it to cover my expenses and give me some extra pocket money to spend on my hobbies, but it's not paying the mortgages, keeping the lights on or putting food on the table (OK, maybe the odd late Saturday night takeaway). I do it because I love to play. Because if I stopped playing it would feel like a close friend had died. Because, while noodling away in my spare room is fun, the real buzz comes from creating something with other people. The reason I say all this is to make it clear where I am in my life. You are probably in a very different place and have very different musical aspirations, but this is me.

Now, in addition to my regular project, once a year I get together with one of my old bands from the 80s. Four of the guys are in the medical field and we get together for a variety show that raises money for children's medical charities. We all live in different cities now, so I fly down on Friday after work. Other than clothes and toiletries I just take my bass and a few cables, one multi effect pedal and my DI box. We all get together and go out and have dinner and catch up with what we've been doing for the last year. I stay with one of the guys who has a spare room. Saturday morning we usually go out for a surf or a bike ride. Saturday afternoon we rehearse for a few hours at the local university where our keyboard player is on staff and books us a room with all the gear we need. Saturday night we play, then go out for a drink and laugh about how seriously we took ourselves in the old days. Sunday morning we have brunch. Sunday afternoon I fly home. With flights, rental car hire, food, etc. I'm several hundred dollars out of pocket by the end of it, all to play a 15 minute gig - just three songs. And not only do we not get paid, but as it's for charity, even the performers pay to get in!

So here's my point. Why do you play? Does it always have to be about the money? I accept that we all do this at different levels, for different reasons. I may be in a financial position where I can better afford to do this than some other people. But I play because I love to play. Most of the time I'm lucky enough to make a bit of money from it. But I don't look at the charity show as a gig that loses me a lot of money. I look at it as a great weekend away; a few days holiday with old friends. I get to support a good cause, and it's all made even better by the fact that I get to play music with other people, which is about the most fun thing in the world (my world) that there is to do. I'm not saying that if we're offered no-pay gigs, we stop critically analysing whether we should do them. We all know there are rip-off merchants looking to take advantage of performers with pay-to-play gigs, etc. I don't really want to be part of that. But (and this is the TLDR) sometimes I think we should just ask ourselves "Does this sound like it could be fun?" If the answer is "Yes", then why not?
 
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So my guitarists set a gig for us that’s 2 1/2 hours drive to and from... for only 30 minutes.... 30 goddamn minutes, 3/5 of our songs we will be able to play... and no we are not getting paid, it’s for charity but my issue had nothing to do with getting paid, it’s driving for almost 5 hours for 30 minutes of “exposure” despite the fact we stil haven’t finished recording our ep/album/demo/whateverhedecidesitis.

I usually have to drag the guitarist around and his rig because he doesn’t have a car.

im very heated and am upset, We’ve had worser sudden gigs but this is ridiculous.
No, it's clearly not worth it. I would not drive more then 30 minutes each way for an unpaid gig. There's "Charity" and "taking advantage" two different things. ANd let's be real, these 10 band charity gigs probably raise all of $200 at the end of the day anyhow. Hell, just cut a check and you still come out WAY ahead.
 
I apologise in advance for this being a long post, but please stick with me here...

I'm in my 50s, and have a grown-up job that pays pretty well. I did the full-on music thing in my teens and 20s but for the last 35-odd years music has been more for fun that profit. Sometimes, due to jobs that involved a lot of travel, I didn't play with other people for a couple of years at a time. Sometimes, though working a regular job, I still had a couple of music projects on the go and jammed, rehearsed and gigged several times a week. But I have long since given up the dream that I'm going to become a full time rock star. These days I have a regular covers band that gigs locally and I make enough money from it to cover my expenses and give me some extra pocket money to spend on my hobbies, but it's not paying the mortgages, keeping the lights on or putting food on the table (OK, maybe the odd late Saturday night takeaway). I do it because I love to play. Because if I stopped playing it would feel like a close friend had died. Because, while noodling away in my spare room is fun, the real buzz comes from creating something with other people. The reason I say all this is to make it clear where I am in my life. You are probably in a very different place and have very different musical aspirations, but this is me.

Now, in addition to my regular project, once a year I get together with one of my old bands from the 80s. Four of the guys are in the medical field and we get together for a variety show that raises money for children's medical charities. We all live in different cities now, so I fly down on Friday after work. Other than clothes and toiletries I just take my bass and a few cables, one multi effect pedal and my DI box. We all get together and go out and have dinner and catch up with what we've been doing for the last year. I stay with one of the guys who has a spare room. Saturday morning we usually go out for a surf or a bike ride. Saturday afternoon we rehearse for a few hours at the local university where our keyboard player is on staff and books us a room with all the gear we need. Saturday night we play, then go out for a drink and laugh about how seriously we took ourselves in the old days. Sunday morning we have brunch. Sunday afternoon I fly home. With flights, rental car hire, food, etc. I'm several hundred dollars out of pocket by the end of it, all to play a 15 minute gig - just three songs. And not only do we not get paid, but as it's for charity, even the performers pay to get in!

So here's my point. Why do you play? Does it always have to be about the money? I accept that we all do this at different levels, for different reasons. I may be in a financial position where I can better afford to do this than some other people. But I play because I love to play. Most of the time I'm lucky enough to make a bit of money from it. But I don't look at the charity show as a gig that loses me a lot of money. I look at it as a great weekend away; a few days holiday with old friends. I get to support a good cause, and it's all made even better by the fact that I get to play music with other people, which is about the most fun thing in the world (my world) that there is to do. I'm not saying that if we're offered no-pay gigs, we stop critically analysing whether we should do them. We all know there are rip-off merchants looking to take advantage of performers with pay-to-play gigs, etc. I don't really want to be part of that. But (and this is the TLDR) sometimes I think we should just ask ourselves "Does this sound like it could be fun?" If the answer is "Yes", then why not?

That's all well and good if you have the disposable income and free time to do that kind of thing. Most originals musicians trying to grow their band probably can't indulge in that. I'm older and doing pretty well financially, and I still can't spend days and hundreds of dollars for a music hang weekend.