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Issue with Thomastik Infelt Jazz Flats

I mean I just played with my bass equiped with La Bella black nylon strings. Tension is way lower than these TI strings and still, it plays great out of the box. Plus my A string on these set of strings doesn't have more than 2 turns around the tuning peg. And even with that, they won't behave as TI's do.

I don't know why you guys focus on that string angle. I tried to put a temporary string tree to lower that A string and it STILL buzzes in the nut slot when plucked open!! That problem is only happening with my TI strings. None of my other basses and strings set has a issue with the different A string angle. Final point. I'll stick that gauge that is not aligned with the rest. Not linearly speaker or even logarithmically speaking:

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To me, the only reason you like TI is because they are breaking in and the difference in tone gets lowered with months and years of playing. Which is not an excuse; good strings are good out of the box. Elixir's were yummy on day first. LaBella's were yummy on day first. Ernie Ball's Slinkys were yummy on day first. Fender roundwounds were bad on day first. Thomastik are expensive and disappointed even with how much I'd like to love them.

End of discussion if you all think I'm only thinking personally. There's no reason to discuss this in that case
Yep, end of discussion. You obviously don't get that some strings don't sound their best brand new (imo/ime, this is every flat I've played). Can't help you w that. Sorry.
 
I mean I just played with my bass equiped with La Bella black nylon strings. Tension is way lower than these TI strings and still, it plays great out of the box. Plus my A string on these set of strings doesn't have more than 2 turns around the tuning peg. And even with that, they won't behave as TI's do.

I don't know why you guys focus on that string angle. I tried to put a temporary string tree to lower that A string and it STILL buzzes in the nut slot when plucked open!! That problem is only happening with my TI strings. None of my other basses and strings set has a issue with the different A string angle. Final point. I'll stick that gauge that is not aligned with the rest. Not linearly speaker or even logarithmically speaking:

View attachment 3171368

To me, the only reason you like TI is because they are breaking in and the difference in tone gets lowered with months and years of playing. Which is not an excuse; good strings are good out of the box. Elixir's were yummy on day first. LaBella's were yummy on day first. Ernie Ball's Slinkys were yummy on day first. Fender roundwounds were bad on day first. Thomastik are expensive and disappointed even with how much I'd like to love them.

End of discussion if you all think I'm only thinking personally. There's no reason to discuss this in that case

Don't give up , dude.

Give the Ti another 3 months. She will give you a good tone day by day.

Right here , I am not aggree that Fender stock 7250 sound bad. Actually she is the part of the soul for Fender tone.
 
I mean I just played with my bass equiped with La Bella black nylon strings. Tension is way lower than these TI strings and still, it plays great out of the box. Plus my A string on these set of strings doesn't have more than 2 turns around the tuning peg. And even with that, they won't behave as TI's do.

I don't know why you guys focus on that string angle. I tried to put a temporary string tree to lower that A string and it STILL buzzes in the nut slot when plucked open!! That problem is only happening with my TI strings. None of my other basses and strings set has a issue with the different A string angle. Final point. I'll stick that gauge that is not aligned with the rest. Not linearly speaker or even logarithmically speaking:

View attachment 3171368

To me, the only reason you like TI is because they are breaking in and the difference in tone gets lowered with months and years of playing. Which is not an excuse; good strings are good out of the box. Elixir's were yummy on day first. LaBella's were yummy on day first. Ernie Ball's Slinkys were yummy on day first. Fender roundwounds were bad on day first. Thomastik are expensive and disappointed even with how much I'd like to love them.

End of discussion if you all think I'm only thinking personally. There's no reason to discuss this in that case

I have Ti on pbass and ibby sr300E, even been use on previous single coil pbass and Cort Arona IV. No open A string rattling on all of them. I suspect your bass A string nut slot has problem; or maybe you have a loose Ti A string.

If you looking for modern Ti like Flatwound sound with little higher tension , I suggest you sell the Ti and get a set of EB cobalt Flatwound which sound growl and great fresh from pack.

Hope help
 
TI Jazz Flats are known to sound "old" when new.

that's not true, that's exactly the opposite: TI flats are extremely bright when new, in particular on the E and A strings, which are "less smooth" than the other strings.

the A, also, s a .070" string, so it's very small and vibrates a lot, and two weeks are nothing in the life of flats.

Usually a set of TI took me months to actually sound "flatwound at all", and they still are some of the middiest and brightest flats out there.
not bright with highs, but with mids and clear notes.

a bright flat like D'Addario or Rotosound starts scooped and bright and ends up with just low-mids and few other frequencies.
 
1 month 1 week: kept that shoe lace that I set post nut (just next to it). I set it with strings untuned, so the shoe lace has some pression on the strings post nut. The A string is now not "bouncy" or anything that style. Even though the nut slot is too large. Now I can play YYZ and some Geddy power plucking like a crazy and it does not buzz at all.
 
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1 month 1 week: kept that shoe lace that I set post nut (just next to it). I set it with strings untuned, so the shoe lace has some pression on the strings post nut. The A string is now not "bouncy" or anything that style. Even though the nut slot is too large. Now I can play YYZ and some Geddy power plucking like a crazy and it does not buzz at all.

Sound like problem solve now.
Your post make few Ti flat lover care and reply on your Ti issue .Even you keep blame the Ti got problem, but they still give you lots of good words, you should thank to them right here.
 
I was thinking about how with most basses I've owned and certainly with the stingray's I play pretty close to the bridge. Basically right over the top of the Ray's pickup. I think playing that far back definitely mitigates some of the floppiness that lots of people complain about with the TI's. If I play closer to the neck I can see how a person might be chasing the strings around with the right hand. It's pretty hard to play something like YYZ without some string tension, I'll give you that. Not sure flats are the right string for that anyway.
 
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I'm about 6 weeks into a new set of Jazz flats, and they're getting settled in about now. I agree about the lower tension A string, but with a small saddle adjustment I've got used to it fairly easily. I do feel they have one of the best flatwound B strings I've used, and it's nice to get away from the stiffer feel of many other flats. So I think I can stick with them happily enough.
Im getting tired of Fender 9050 flats tension.....i feel like i am going to have to buy a set of TIs eventually....getting old sucks and i am doing warm ups and stretches to my fingers....tired of fighting it....the long breakin is what stops me (not the cost).
 
Sound like problem solve now.
Your post make few Ti flat lover care and reply on your Ti issue .Even you keep blame the Ti got problem, but they still give you lots of good words, you should thank to them right here.

I will continue to say and think that a .075 (more or less) gauge would be better than a .070 and that TI are not 'that' perfect. But about the rest I agree and I say thank you to every person who weighed in my topic and kept patience with my close-minded butthead. :D

I was thinking about how with most basses I've owned and certainly with the stingray's I play pretty close to the bridge. Basically right over the top of the Ray's pickup. I think playing that far back definitely mitigates some of the floppiness that lots of people complain about with the TI's. If I play closer to the neck I can see how a person might be chasing the strings around with the right hand. It's pretty hard to play something like YYZ without some string tension, I'll give you that. Not sure flats are the right string for that anyway.

Yes I agree, playing over a MM pickup or a bridge Jazz pickup make the string being less floppy due to the location you pluck it. TI's are not the lowest string tension in flats. I got LaBella Black Nylon, 750N and NOT 760N, so the lighest gauge they offer, and these are definitively floppier than TI Jazz Flats. That being said, once I could solve that A string matter, I can play them hard and they got a pretty nasty note with a classic Fender bridge (I like the fact that the sustain is not too long so the notes have a stronger impact at the beggining). And believe me, even though the LaBella Black Nylon are way floppy, I still pluck them super hard and they groove beautifully. I'll make a recording (audio and video) of a Rush tune on the TI if you'd like to hear and see how much I put energy when I play these. :)

Have a nice Sunday y'all!
 
Im getting tired of Fender 9050 flats tension.....i feel like i am going to have to buy a set of TIs eventually....getting old sucks and i am doing warm ups and stretches to my fingers....tired of fighting it....the long breakin is what stops me (not the cost).

Beside the Ti flat, labella LTF4A are another comfort stiffness Flatwound bass string which give you instantly 80% broken in old school tone fresh from pack. Just need 2 weeks to tame the bright G string .
Great string to string stiffness balance as Ti flat.

Hopehelp
 
I will continue to
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Wait until they're 20 years old like mine are. They get better every time I play them.
I can’t wait.
I’m still, after thirty plus years of playing roundwounds, trying to wrap my mind around the fact that the TI’s sound better with age. Usually there’s a clock that’s counting down in my head every time I pick up my bass as to how much longer these strings are going to last (with the rounds that is). It’s quite liberating to be honest.
 

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