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"J" pickups discussion and comparisons - PART II

I installed a series/parallel switch on my Geddy jazz last year, with Nordstrand Jazz Blade pickups. I'm a P Bass guy at heart and I find series on a Jazz gets a little closer to P territory, but it's still a distinctly Jazz sound though, just a bit thicker (and louder). Close enough for live, but in the studio I'd just grab a P.

I've actually really taken to 51 P pickups to give me that sound between a P and J, just installed a Jess Loureiro split coil 51, really sweet sound, plus noiseless to boot.
 
Hi, yeah there is cerntainly a lower mid tonal response that is different that I'm not sure you can EQ that easily.

As a guy that has to cut through a ton of percussion on a regular basis, series is additcting with medium to slighty brighter pickups.

Have you ever tried, or do you know if it's possible, to install a resistor on the series side of a switch to more closely match the levels when switching between series and parallel?
 
Have you ever tried, or do you know if it's possible, to install a resistor on the series side of a switch to more closely match the levels when switching between series and parallel?
Hmmm...In theory I would think that would work.
However I have never done that and I'm not a %100 certain.
Some say there is tonal clarity differance when you bypass a pan pot. That I'm not sure of.
All I can say is that when I do bypass the pan pot and run it in series it sounds down right killer IMHO. (I almost never use just one pickup and never lean to one pickup with a blown so they are useless to me.)

I have one Jazz that Vol/Vol if I want anything funky and I never take advantage of it.

To be honest in hindsight if it is possible Im wondering why a company like G&L have not do that yet.
 
Hmmm...In theory I would think that would work.
However I have never done that and I'm not a %100 certain.
Some say there is tonal clarity differance when you bypass a pan pot. That I'm not sure of.
All I can say is that when I do bypass the pan pot and run it in series it sounds down right killer IMHO. (I almost never use just one pickup and never lean to one pickup with a blown so they are useless to me.)

I have one Jazz that Vol/Vol if I want anything funky and I never take advantage of it.

To be honest in hindsight if it is possible Im wondering why a company like G&L have not do that yet.

I'm with you on that... When I play my jazz, it's with both pickups full on 99% of the time.
I should just re-wire the push-pull so that it is standard Series and pull for Parallel. Then use a boost pedal to even out the levels if switching to parallel is a problem.
 
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I'm with you on that... When I play my jazz, it's with both pickups full on 99% of the time.
I should just re-wire the push-pull so that it is standard Series and pull for Parallel. Then use a boost pedal to even out the levels if switching to parallel is a problem.
Just about all my basses have about the same output and line level. I have one strong but still passive bass that I use that I give a little boost with ok my Basswitch when I use it live.
That way the FOH is getting the same level as well.
 
If you want absolutely authentic sounding single coil 62s I would recommend Klein 1962 Epic Series 5-String Jazz Bass Pickups, bit pricey though - $240. Dimarzio does a noise Area J that is very classic sound and noiseless, the model is a DP552 and they cost about $140, I would suggest those myself if you need noiseless.
Thank you for great advice! As I understand, the Dimarzio has a classic sound. I really like the sound of the 70's. Could you advise the options of this decade? Or at least one more with a classic Fender tone. Thank you.
 
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Thank you for great advice! As I understand, the Dimarzio has a classic sound. I really like the sound of the 70's. Could you advise the options of this decade? Or at least one more with a classic Fender tone. Thank you.


I believe Nordstrand does a 70's wind for their 5 string jazz basses, or one could be requested. Lindy Fralin pickups also have different winding options on their site.
 
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Thank you for great advice! As I understand, the Dimarzio has a classic sound. I really like the sound of the 70's. Could you advise the options of this decade? Or at least one more with a classic Fender tone. Thank you.

I think as someone else said here Mojotone does a 70s pickup I have played on someone else's bass, I have never owned those. Aguilar does a nice 70s pickup, but I am a big Nordstrand fan and they will do a custom wind I doubt you could go wrong with. Also of course there are the Fender Pure Vintage 74, and I love those, cloth wires, great construction.

Having said all those remember all of those are true single coil. One thought would be that the new Bartolini b-Axis pikcups are based on the original 70s HI-A pickups before they were call Bartolini. I have these in 2 basses and they are very sweet and very similar in tone to the Hi-A's I have in a 70s Ibanez fretless. They may not 100% nail a Fender sound but they are very 70s, as well as modern, as well as noiseless.
 
I bought a Fender Jazz Deluxe USA bass a few years back and very nearly moved it on because it sounded so thin and tinny. It had the N3 pickups in it . I think that is what they were called, anyway they were pretty crap IMHO. Because the bass played like a complete dream I persevered with things and ended up with Seymour Duncan Hot Jazz stacked , again I think that is what they are called in both bridge and neck. The bass is now a totally different animal, so much so that I then bought another Jazz Deluxe and installed the same Seymour Duncans in this one too. I play in two bands, one play in standard tuning and the other play in Eb. At a gig I take the bass that is tuned 'correctly' and a Ernie Ball Sterling USA as a back up, not that it ever gets played..! These two jazzes are real keepers, they play and sound perfect to my ears.
 
Thank you everyone for the emg battery cavity information. So I have narrowed down to the following for my 4 string fretless fender
1. the active j set
2. the active jcs set (ceramic magnet )
I am going with a emg preamp for the pickups.

Has anyone had any experience with the jcs set?


I Play exclusively finger style jazz and reggae.
Thank you!


Did anyone actually answer this question for you?
 
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I'll ask this here since my current thread isn't getting much traction.
Anyone here have any experience with the regular single-coil and dual-coil hum-cancelling Bartolinis? Looking to get a set of 9CBJ #3s, but dunno if it's worth it to get the regular J's for tonal reasons, or get the D's since there's not much of a possible sound difference.

What kind of jazz bass tone are you looking for with these?
 
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Cool! Yeah, I love those guys! That store is super helpful! Sounds like they turned you in the right direction! I love thicker J [pickups at times, but they have a built in sound that may not lend itself to what you were looking for, so the one they recommended should to the job.

In my experience with J basses, Bartolinis sound a good amount more modern than some of the more traditional styled pickups out there. That's not to say they can't do "old school", but they just sound a lot smoother, and that's a great thing if you like more of a consistent sound that's maybe not as "raw".

With the players you mentioned, much of their tone is based off of their signal chain, not just the pickup. You did say that you wanted a modern take on it though. I've heard that the Bartolini bi-axis pickup gets a large J-type tone also! One thing I like to do when setting up instruments for myself and others, is really hone in on the pickup height. Some basses really respond differently with different heights, and with a fully covered pickup like the bartolini, you may have more options with them.
 
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Stock Geddy USA pups too bright and crispy for my liking. Got Model J’s, but they are too tall for the routes. So...noiseless isn’t my primary goal, something with a softer top and more mids while retaining a solid bottom is...but will use split coil or other hum cancelling if called for. Where should I be looking?
 
Stock Geddy USA pups too bright and crispy for my liking. Got Model J’s, but they are too tall for the routes. So...noiseless isn’t my primary goal, something with a softer top and more mids while retaining a solid bottom is...but will use split coil or other hum cancelling if called for. Where should I be looking?
Fender 4th generation noiseless or Fralins ... I’d suggest however to stay single coil and steer towards Fender PV’64 or Lollars ..
 
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Fender 4th generation noiseless or Fralins ... I’d suggest however to stay single coil and steer towards Fender PV’64 or Lollars ..

Good luck finding those (out of production) - the PV 74's are also discontinued but there are still a few sets around. (they sound very good also)