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Jaco pastorius string gauge

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by jazzbass64, Feb 26, 2006.


  1. jazzbass64

    jazzbass64

    Jan 8, 2006
    Well I know jaco pastorius was using rotosound swing bass but I' m not sure about the tention/gauge.
    I have read 45-105 , then 40-100... .Perhaps he have tryed different gauge during is carear ?
    Well if someone have good source on this subject don' t hesitate !
     
  2. ffej

    ffej

    Feb 15, 2003
    The original Rotosound swing bass were guaged:
    46-63-80-102.
    This is what Jaco used and would be closer to 45-105
    than 40-100.
     
  3. jazzbass64

    jazzbass64

    Jan 8, 2006
    So string gauge of "old" swing bass set were very closed to the actual 45-65-80-105.Or even closer to 45-65-80-100 (from other manufacturer).
    I use swing bass in 45-105 (80) for a year now.Nothing sound better on my jazz to my opinion !
    Just put DR fatbeams with same gauge.they are much more flexible and in a sense easyer to play but the sound was below : big drop in volume, sound is different, great but not as "speaking" as the roto for me.
    Thank' s very much for this interesting information on roto string and jaco...
     
  4. joegeezer

    joegeezer

    Mar 9, 2005
    Northern Wisconsin
    Avatar Club#12 Eden Club Lucky# 13--USA Peavey Club#37 Carvin Club#5
    I think DR Highbeams are closer to the sound of the Roto's, and are softer, and easier to play, in my opinion.
     
  5. jazzbass64

    jazzbass64

    Jan 8, 2006
    Perhaps high-beam in 45-100 would be a good thing to try for me...But are the high-beam really different when compared to fat-beams ?
    I know they are both stainless steel with round-core...This is why I have thought they are similar.So ?
     
  6. DavePlaysBass

    DavePlaysBass

    Mar 31, 2004
    CO
    Ken Smith has a balanced set of steels that go 44-63-80-102. I am playing a set right now. They are a good steel string.

    Dave
     
  7. babaseen

    babaseen Don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    Boston, MA
    Still believe Roto Swing Bass 66 are in a class by themselves IMHO
     
  8. Rodriguez

    Rodriguez

    Nov 6, 2004
    NYC
    Endorsing Artist: Aguilar Amplification & LaBella Strings
    What I remember about the strings is that the silk ends were different on every string, he told me they were Rotosounds, I don't remember the order, but the colors were:

    Red
    Green
    Yellow
    Blue

    I know this because after a basketball game in Molde, Norway (Late July '82). I went the band to the gig and got a set of used strings that I asked for backstage, they were wrapped and I ready for the trash ... I haven't seen those strings in years...
     
  9. P-BASSLOVER

    P-BASSLOVER

    Oct 10, 2008
    USA
    High Beams are a bit more trebly than Fat Beams. Fat Beams are deeper sounding with more pronounced mids than Hi Beams.
    Hi Beams have more of a scooped mid sound. Fat Beams are also smoother feeling but slightly higher tension.
     
  10. Eublet

    Eublet Supporting Member

    Jul 28, 2006
    Hi Beams would eat up a fretless board faster than most anything.
     
  11. narud

    narud Supporting Member

    Mar 15, 2001
    santa maria,california
    ive used hi beams and lo riders exclusively on my fretless f bass with no issues.
     
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  12. babaseen

    babaseen Don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    Boston, MA
    I'm not sure the information quoted by ffej is true.:meh:

    From the John Entwhistle website (i.e., the man who helped James Howe conceive the Swing Bass 66) it states that the gauges were .045 -.105 (at least for the G and E) from 1966 to the 80's.
     
  13. 4-string

    4-string

    Jul 23, 2006
    Norway
    +1. Worry about fretboard wear if and when it happens. My fretless J has had ProSteels for the last couple of years.
     
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  14. Deep

    Deep

    May 8, 2002
    NY
    Rotosound Swing bass 66 strings are THE sound. I think for me the DR Low-Riders are closer to it than Hi-Beams or Fat-Beams for me anyway.
     
  15. +1
    I used DR's for a few years and although they were really good strings, they didn't have that sound. When I put a set of Rotosound Swing Bass strings back on my Rickenbacker 4001, I realised that I missed them. So now, that's all I will use.
     
  16. camelspotter

    camelspotter

    Sep 21, 2005
    DR Low-Riders are great when using the neck Pu and the tone all the way down.. great mid scooped jaco sound in my jazz with S.Duncun AntII pus.
    Now i'm trying Rotos 66' 95-75-60-40 gauge. Tried on my fretted, on my fretless, great sounding, clear bottom end, not muddy but they lack midrange imho. tone all the way up goes way bright and trebly, all the way down with the neck PU but now i can't get that jaco or even better the Sinclair (caravan era) tone, i could nail with the DRs..
    It's all a matter of taste.
    I want to put samples and compare two in both fretted and fretless jazz basses.
     
  17. babaseen

    babaseen Don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing Supporting Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    Boston, MA
    still raining, still dreaming
     
  18. pfox14

    pfox14

    Dec 22, 2013
    So, if I use the same strings as Jaco, I'll sound just like him right?
     
  19. FunkMetalBass

    FunkMetalBass

    Aug 5, 2005
    Phoenix, Arizona 85029
    Endorsing Artist: J.C. Basses
    I've heard that if you use his bass, his strings, his patch cable, his amp, and actually become Jaco, you can sound just like Jaco!
     
  20. To play like Jaco you just have to be in Jaco's mind and, believe me, probably you don't want that to happen...