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Jacos bass - where?

bostonasphalt2 said:
Can you support the claim he is out and using it?

I'm not gonna go dig up a link but it's no big secret he's played it out before.

Edit: Well I'm not sure if it's a well known fact or not really, but I vividly recall seeing pics or a video of him playing it a few months back when I first read this story.
 
What is the story of this one?

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Ouch, such a shame that bass couldn't have been kept in it's original condition.

But I guess the lesson here is that nothing can last forever.

John

Which "original"- intact, or smashed to bits? This is how it was when Jaco last possessed it, so it's the way it should be. If it had been reassembled and improved after Jaco's death, it should have been mounted on a board and placed under glass.
 
Thanks, millsbass5!

meh... it would have been more fair if Trujillo said: "I've bought it and now it's mine. Period. When I decide it will be for sale it will be sold to the biggest offerer". THIS is business. My opinion.

What does 'fair' have to do with this? Someone stealing it from Jaco wasn't "fair". Keeping it for over 20 years isn't "fair". Selling it after stealing it and not being prosecuted isn't "fair". The Pastorius family having to go through lawyers to extricate it from the greedy hands of someone who didn't have any right to ask for money isn't "fair".

What Trujillo did is more than fair. He financed the return and it's stored in a known safe place. I'm sure that if Jaco's family needed to use it for something, they can get it but in writing, they agreed to him keeping it safe until such time that they decide to buy it from him for the same price he paid. THAT's more than fair- if he did it for money, he would have told them to pound sand and demand whatever he wanted but he did this out of reverence for Jaco, his playing and the tragedy that was his end. If this instrument just went to the collector's market and into a private collection never to be seen again, that would have been unfair to others, but fine WRT the buyer in the sense that an owner can do whatever they want with what they buy.
 
My thinking is the bass was stolen from the Pastorius name, and should be rightfully returned to the Pastorius name.

Legal troubles got in the way of this. Robert stepped up to help.

That's what it looks like to me. Is there any truth to it?
 
What does 'fair' have to do with this? Someone stealing it from Jaco wasn't "fair".

it would have been truer if Trujillo said: "I've bought it and now it's mine. Period. When I decide it will be for sale it will be sold to the biggest offerer". This should make my opinion clearer, now


What Trujillo did is more than fair. He financed the return and it's stored in a known safe place.

Your respectable opinion. But he just bought the bass and keeps it at his home. This is the fact. He's fully entitled to do this, since he spent a lot (as you say, too). But this is some form of investment, business that (for me, I might be wrong) has nothing to do with being fair or respectful to JP or his family in no way except for some sort of "right" to buy it when they will have the required sum. Surely: better at Trujillo's place than lost who knows where!!!

But, all things considered, it's highly unlikely (God may help them in doing it) that anybody in the Pastorious family comes out with that huge sum of money to get back the bass where it belongs. The rest is only useless talks.

My opinion, anyway...
 
So, what exactly makes people think that the family has an entitlement to the bass?
That it was stolen is unfortunate but is that it?
Ad what#s with all the other basses HE owned? Do they have them/want them too?
Shouldn't it be a simple case of "Trujillo bought it, therefore it's his, period.?"
Sorry, I have not YET had the time to read the fender article in it's entirety.
 
Shouldn't it be a simple case of "Trujillo bought it, therefore it's his, period.?"

Exactly my point! No need to say that he did something special for JP's family.

So, what exactly makes people think that the family has an entitlement to the bass?

Reasonable feeling for the family and for an entire community (myself included): it's because the bass was Jaco's and now is somebody else's. Also because it is not any bass is "the" bass of all basses... In addition there are the Jaco's twins that are musicians and one of them is a bassplayer: can you imagine what this axe means to them... but reality is reality. And money is money.