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Jad Freer Sisma Mega Thread.

#361
It’s a shame that this thread has derailed in such a way, and continues to do so, despite the pleading of others. Out of respect for the OP, and for Jad Freer, please….if you’re not sharing experience or interest with the Sisma….take it elsewhere. There are plenty of threads where such debates would be on-topic.

I HAVE tried the Sisma back to back with a D800 and GK MBF 800. It does have a different, authoritative voice, and I agree with @DELACIUS; it’s pretty surprising. If I were in the market for a new head, it would DEFINITELY be the one.

I also own and LOVE a Capo, and I’m really glad there are small companies like Jad Freer who are doing different, if not innovative designs
 
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Dave Hill said:
It’s a shame that this thread has derailed in such a way, and continues to do so, despite the pleading of others. Out of respect for the OP, and for Jad Freer, please….if you’re not sharing experience or interest with the Sisma….take it elsewhere. There are plenty of threads where such debates would be on-topic.
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Actually Dave, it’s very much on topic because there were factually inaccurate claims made a couple of folks that disparaged the technology that most other manufacturers use. It’s too bad that translation language barriers impacted the discussion, but that just means that we need to act like grownups and get past it.

Lack of understanding the different technologies is a big part of why these myths perpetuate. I hope you aren’t suggesting that we ignore the technical facts and focus on perpetuating the myths?
 
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agedhorse said:
Actually Dave, it’s very much on topic because there were factually inaccurate claims made a couple of folks that disparaged the technology that most other manufacturers use. It’s too bad that translation language barriers impacted the discussion, but that just means that we need to act like grownups and get past it.

Lack of understanding the different technologies is a big part of why these myths perpetuate. I hope you aren’t suggesting that we ignore the technical facts and focus on perpetuating the myths?
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No not at all. I’m all about facts and experience. But, it seems like there are other threads more suitable. I’m always thankful for your input and experience, and I’m glad you corrected inaccuracies. Just seems like it’s time to move on.
 
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#365
I'm just being quiet and learning. All I have to say is I own and use Mesa 800+, Mesa WD800, Sisma and Capo.
All my cabs, 210 112 and 115 are Mesa. I work a lot both live and studio. This ain't no home cowboy. I love all of this gear. Both companies hit the mark with me on every aspect. I will not be getting rid of any of these. All 3 heads are different and fabulous. I'm not well voiced enough to give any explanation as to why but I'm extremely happy with zero regrets.
Now back to our regular scheduled program.
 
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#366
I hope that all the feedback coming from real users will also prove the myth that whatever is not classD is primitive-livinginthepast-notwantingtoembracethefuture.

It's a different technology that may suite some players needs.
 
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Andrea Lo said:
I hope that all the feedback coming from real users will also prove the myth that whatever is not classD is primitive-livinginthepast-notwantingtoembracethefuture.

It's a different technology that may suite some player's needs.
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All technologies that are used to amplify the bass signal are valid and usable. As long as hyperbole is not used to hype one over the other.

I get we all like what we like and what works best for the individual. Sometimes we need to make changes and go with something different even if we like something else.

Some like 100 lb. tube heads but can't lift them anymore so a class D head might be an alternative as well as a class G or A/B.

Lots of choices for lots of people.

:)
 
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Danny C said:
I'm just being quiet and learning. All I have to say is I own and use Mesa 800+, Mesa WD800, Sisma and Capo.
All my cabs, 210 112 and 115 are Mesa. I work a lot both live and studio. This ain't no home cowboy. I love all of this gear. Both companies hit the mark with me on every aspect. I will not be getting rid of any of these. All 3 heads are different and fabulous. I'm not well voiced enough to give any explanation as to why but I'm extremely happy with zero regrets.
Now back to our regular scheduled program.
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Would you describe in which context you would use one or another of those amp ? :D

They are differently voicing and I don't know if you could get the "tone" of one of them with another you have ? ^^
 
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agedhorse said:
Actually Dave, it’s very much on topic because there were factually inaccurate claims made a couple of folks that disparaged the technology that most other manufacturers use. It’s too bad that translation language barriers impacted the discussion, but that just means that we need to act like grownups and get past it.

Lack of understanding the different technologies is a big part of why these myths perpetuate. I hope you aren’t suggesting that we ignore the technical facts and focus on perpetuating the myths?
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I think it was nice to have all those information, because I and other say wrong things (mostly because I don't understand a lot of things about amp) but now most of the guys that follow this thread want to learn more about the Sisma from Jad Freer, talk about how they feel about them, how they use it and what they like or not about it. There isn't a lot of reviews yet.

The informations you provide are really good to know for sure. :)
 
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DJ Bebop said:
All technologies that are used to amplify the bass signal are valid and usable. As long as hyperbole is not used to hype one over the other.

I get we all like what we like and what works best for the individual. Sometimes we need to make changes and go with something different even if we like something else.

Some like 100 lb. tube heads but can't lift them anymore so a class D head might be an alternative as well as a class G or A/B.

Lots of choices for lots of people.

:)
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Actually Jad Freer use Class G for the Sisma/Coda but it is super light if I am correct :D
 
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Franz975 said:
Actually Jad Freer use Class G for the Sisma/Coda but it is super light if I am correct :D
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Yes it is, not as light as class D heads but close. Surely lighter and much more compact than an Aguilar DB751, that I feel more close as a comparison.
 
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If it was me that you were asking I could go to any of my gigs and grab any of the heads I mentioned and I would have the same smile on my face. I don't chose one over the other for any reason. I'm pretty good at getting the sound I desire out of both Mesa heads and Sisma. I play an incredibly wide variety of music with multiple groups. I'm working in over 10 different kinds of musical adventures. They all work great. The DI's in both companies amps are great. I've received many compliments from musicians, sound techs and audience that my sound is right no matter what I use. You must find what works for you. Unfortunately one is not always able to try before purchase. I purchased all 3 amps without trying first. They both offer return if not satisfied so that was good enough for me. Actually better because I was able to use them in my real life situations instead of trying at a music store. Nothing was returned so I made good choices for myself. Sometimes ya gotta just jump in the pool.
 
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Danny C said:
If it was me that you were asking I could go to any of my gigs and grab any of the heads I mentioned and I would have the same smile on my face. I don't chose one over the other for any reason. I'm pretty good at getting the sound I desire out of both Mesa heads and Sisma. I play an incredibly wide variety of music with multiple groups. I'm working in over 10 different kinds of musical adventures. They all work great. The DI's in both companies amps are great. I've received many compliments from musicians, sound techs and audience that my sound is right no matter what I use. You must find what works for you. Unfortunately one is not always able to try before purchase. I purchased all 3 amps without trying first. They both offer return if not satisfied so that was good enough for me. Actually better because I was able to use them in my real life situations instead of trying at a music store. Nothing was returned so I made good choices for myself. Sometimes ya gotta just jump in the pool.
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Yeah the question was for you ! I am not an amp guy, I have got a Markbass, Darkglass 900, Darkglass e500 and now use a Bergantino Forte but I never have more than one amp at the time (I sell and buy another)

It is nice to know that you can get the tone you want out of them all ! Especially if you play a lot of different style of music.

I don't know why when someone talk to me about Mesa they say it is "only for that style" (mesa or other brand).
Maybe because Recto were used for heavy music a lot but I also heard someone play "soft" rock or something bluesy out of those things too.
 
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Franz975 said:
If I am correct most class A/B amp are heavier than both Class D and G no ?

And some Class G are pretty heavy too
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Andy is more entitled to teach this but its not the power amp type that adds weight. Its the power supply and the cooling system. Since almost all class D use a switching power supply they are lighter and being more efficent they don t need massive dissipators.
 
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