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Jamerson set vs deep talking Flat

#2
Much, much more similar than different. The Jamerson set is a very heavy gauge, and high tension.

Unless you are going for total Jamerson authenticity and are looking for a really high tension set (some are), I would suggest the 760FL set. 99.7% of the sound of the Jamerson set, easier on the hands. Easier on your bass, too. :)
 
#3
jasper383 said:
Much, much more similar than different. The Jamerson set is a very heavy gauge, and high tension.

Unless you are going for total Jamerson authenticity and are looking for a really high tension set (some are), I would suggest the 760FL set. 99.7% of the sound of the Jamerson set, easier on the hands. Easier on your bass, too. :)
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Hi,
thanks for the answer...do You know some on-line shop where I can buy the 760FM XL?

regards,
 
#4
I ordered my LaBella deep talkin flats from JustStrings

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To the best of my knowledge, the Jamerson set and the regular Deep Talking Flats are basically the exact same strings. The Jamerson set is just what they call the extra heavy gauge set.

Jeremy
 
#5
I don't agree.

I think the Jamerson set is a different animal, though you can get a long way towards the Jamersons with the FL760s, you can't get the midrange detail and sustain of the FLs with the Originals (Jamerson set). The alloy is different and you can see this in the way they look. There is a heavy gauge DT flat that I think must sound closer to the FLs, but the Original 760 set is unique.

So if you want a versatile flat that can thump and also sound clear and have a strong low mid voice, the FL760s are an absolutely righteous set. Think Bob Babbit, Jerry Jemmott, Willie Weeks kind of tone. If you want, well, pure Jamerson thump, that huge fat round pillowy thump with limited sustain (even without mutes, the shape of the note tails off due to the design of the string and the tendency to have to hit it pretty hard to get it moving enough to sound good), then the Jamerson set is amazing.

I have one P with them on, and I just can't get a tone I like from it without hitting the strings hard, and using a foam mute. Playing them lightly and finessing them doesn't do much for me, and for reggae and later soul, for example, I find them way too thumpy and lacking sustain and midrange detail and grunt. But for thumping away on bouncy melodic songs and some bluesy stuff they can sound terrific if you have an amp and cabs that can get that sound out without it sounding like mud or a kick drum in a mix, or I imagine on recordings.

I have one P and one Jazz with Labella FL760s and one Jazz with the similar but more aggressive and less thumpy Sadowsky flats, and they are much more versatile and modern sounding basses because of it.

On the P that has the Jamersons (a Fullerton '62 with a very slim, wide, but stable neck), I had to turn the trussrod one whole turn over two days when going from .105 Chromes to the originals!
 
#6
One Drop said:
I don't agree.

I think the Jamerson set is a different animal, though you can get a long way towards the Jamersons with the FL760s, you can't get the midrange detail and sustain of the FLs with the Originals (Jamerson set). The alloy is different and you can see this in the way they look. There is a heavy gauge DT flat that I think must sound closer to the FLs, but the Original 760 set is unique.

So if you want a versatile flat that can thump and also sound clear and have a strong low mid voice, the FL760s are an absolutely righteous set. Think Bob Babbit, Jerry Jemmott, Willie Weeks kind of tone. If you want, well, pure Jamerson thump, that huge fat round pillowy thump with limited sustain (even without mutes, the shape of the note tails off due to the design of the string and the tendency to have to hit it pretty hard to get it moving enough to sound good), then the Jamerson set is amazing.

I have one P with them on, and I just can't get a tone I like from it without hitting the strings hard, and using a foam mute. Playing them lightly and finessing them doesn't do much for me, and for reggae and later soul, for example, I find them way too thumpy and lacking sustain and midrange detail and grunt. But for thumping away on bouncy melodic songs and some bluesy stuff they can sound terrific if you have an amp and cabs that can get that sound out without it sounding like mud or a kick drum in a mix, or I imagine on recordings.

I have one P and one Jazz with Labella FL760s and one Jazz with the similar but more aggressive and less thumpy Sadowsky flats, and they are much more versatile and modern sounding basses because of it.

On the P that has the Jamersons (a Fullerton '62 with a very slim, wide, but stable neck), I had to turn the trussrod one whole turn over two days when going from .105 Chromes to the originals!
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Interesting. I have the 760FM's. I want a little more mids with a little less thump. Sounds like I need the 760FL's. Thanks for your review! I thought all the LaBella DTF's were the same.
 
#7
I am playing 760FLs on a P bass. I am suprised in the versatility of these strings. They sound old school but are not getting covered up in the mix (although recently I have been playing more mellow stuff). I questioned if Labellas would be a string I could take a lot of places. Of course there are a lot of variables that I believe are working for me along with the string choice.
 
#9
denton57 said:
Interesting. I have the 760FM's. I want a little more mids with a little less thump. Sounds like I need the 760FL's. Thanks for your review! I thought all the LaBella DTF's were the same.
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They might well be, maybe it is only the gauge that is different after all, but they sure look different to me. It's a bit confusing trying to figure things out from their online catalogue, as they say the 760F series is the original formula, then have the Jamerson set in a separate box without the F in the model name. Maybe it's just a marketing thing. In any case, the difference in tone is very marked to my ears, but still within thumpy flat parameters, especially if you are playing with the tone rolled up on your bass.
 

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