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Job or Hobby?

Why do you play in bands, projects, etc.?

  • Money is the deciding factor

    Votes: 18 3.4%
  • It is mostly about money, but I won't do something that isn't fun

    Votes: 62 11.7%
  • It is mostly about fun, but I'd like to make some bucks as well

    Votes: 241 45.4%
  • Fun is the deciding factor

    Votes: 210 39.5%

  • Total voters
    531
I'm in it for the fun really, if i did it for the money, then realistically i'd not earn enough to keep a roof over my head. The money is obviously nice to get and i rarely turn a local gig down because of that aspect. If i do it's usually because I don't have enough spare time to get to grips with the set or if it is going to put me out of pocket. That said I have done free gigs for friends when they are not being paid for the gig.
 
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Well, as a member of an original band www.lidauna.com/music it actually costs money to play music.
The industry is so silly that if you aren't doing it for love & fun then no original music would be made. In St. Louis right now, there are about 3 actual places with good stages and sound where a non-national original band can play (that isn't a total dive where fans would never show). We are lucky to play out quarterly.
 
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That said, if I'm out there pursuing my passion and skills, particularly in support of a commercial venture — bar, restaurant, club, theatre, casino, festival, whatever — the money matters as a measure of the value of what I do and the producer's or venue's respect for my and my profession.

Yes! I often say: Money is validation.
 
When someone refers to their music as a hobby, my teeth start to grind. All I can picture is the “hobbyist” sitting on the floor in their bedroom in their pajamas with their spouse or parent hovering over them with a honeydew list and nagging them to put their “hobby” aside and get some work done.
 
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When someone refers to their music as a hobby, my teeth start to grind. All I can picture is the “hobbyist” sitting on the floor in their bedroom in their pajamas with their spouse or parent hovering over them with a honeydew list and nagging them to put their “hobby” aside and get some work done.

hobbies are generally for fun, kind of nitpicking over a term here. not every needs to get onstage to enjoy an instrument.
 
There’s an old joke… what’s the difference between a bass player and a large pizza? A large pizza will feed a family of 4. I’ve been playing for 55 years as a hobby, occasionally making a buck here and there. When I was young, I considered making it my profession. However, I decided to get a business degree…had a successful corporate career…helped raise two great sons…have a comfortable retirement …and play lots of music. I have no regrets. Bass has always been a wonderful hobby…incredibly fulfilling…and helped to keep me sane along the way.
 
When someone refers to their music as a hobby, my teeth start to grind. All I can picture is the “hobbyist” sitting on the floor in their bedroom in their pajamas with their spouse or parent hovering over them with a honeydew list and nagging them to put their “hobby” aside and get some work done.

Maybe the term"avocation" may be more appropriate for what many of us do.

avocation

noun
/ˌævəˈkeɪʃən/
work you do in addition to your main job or profession, especially for enjoyment.
 
Yes! I often say: Money is validation.

In a way the $$ is a validation. If someone is paying you and hiring you than yes you're doing something right. But to me the more important validation is a happy audience.

If the whole loading in-out/setup/teardown dance wasn't involved I play with no concern for $$ just for that validation from the crowd. That's what I'm being paid for, the music part is the "free bonus." Kind of like buy one get one free.
 
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I used to do it for a living. Now it's a hobby because nobody makes a living at it anymore, and I don't need the music income.

However, doing it for fun doesn't mean I don't want it to be done well, and that is the problem I face in the hobby world. The number of times "it's just a hobby" has been used to excuse sloppy playing and trainwreck performances is mind boggling, and finding other players who still want to do a good job within the time constraints that are placed on us when we don't perform often is almost impossible.

That being said, I understand that nobody's playing five nights a week anymore and the option to tighten up to that level isn't there. But there has to be a place where we can meet somewhere in the middle and do a decent job while still having fun, right?

Playing music is a hobby to me. Plain and simple. I have a FT job and any money coming from playing music would be a small fraction of that. I have other hobbies as well. Some are very expensive. I attend events with folks that participate in those hobbies and they spend big money and time working on their skills at those hobbies. Nobody is making a living car racing, for instance. But some of these guys will work to get .10 sec a lap better. They hire pro coaches and work on all of that. Then they compete with guys that put in the same level of prep and share a beer at the end of the race.

There are others who are just in it for the fun of racing. Same with music I suppose. If you like working on stuff an upping your game, you want to find others who want to up their game and play (even for $100) at the top of their game. Push yourselves, etc. I'm playing bass with a new thing. I'm working harder than ever to get the tunes "right" since I barely know these guys and *they* have put in the work. I have made, and probably will make $0. I bought a new bass for this project (cause it's lighter), so I'm at (many hundreds of) negative dollars.

I'm having fun, but we're (the BL is) looking for a singer and it's not going well. The last singer mentioned how she listened to the songs in the car a bunch leading up to it. Sigh. She was "OK" and could learn but, lack of prep. So it it's fun, but the variability is taking some of the fun out.

My other project is on hiatus while my basement is rebuilt from a flood.
 
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In a way the $$ is a validation. If someone is paying you and hiring you than yes you're doing something right. But to me the more important validation is a happy audience.

If the whole loading in-out/setup/teardown dance wasn't involved I play with no concern for $$ just for that validation from the crowd. That's what I'm being paid for, the music part is the "free bonus." Kind of like buy one get one free.

I can't say I ever play with no concern for money, but oh my yes: Every once in a while I look out at the dance floor and think "I've done it. I've gone to the top of Maslow's Hierarchy: I'm living out a dream from childhood."
 
A hobby is sitting on your front porch in the wood whittlin.'

If you spend time learning to play an instrument, then get together with some other folks and learn to play together, then decide you want to play for other people, then book a gig, then pack up your gear and take it to a venue, then play a gig and get money...well, that's not a hobby.
 
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