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Just got an EB5 -- is there a war on Gibson?

There is at least a vocal majority here that think that anything that isn't a Fender isn't worth their time.

And then you have people who criticize Fender for the same reasons. IME, both Fender and Gibson have been producing some excellent instruments at various price points for awhile now. Especially when you include the Squier, MIM and Epiphone lines.
 
Historically most Gibson basses have been terrible designs, the kind of thing a guitar player who's never played a gig on bass would think looked cool. Luckily yours is one of the exceptions.

Yeah... no.

I mean, if you think about it, @lz4005 has a point. The majority of their designs are just rehashed guitar designs that typically suffer from neck dive. A lot of their bass offerings are short and medium scale, too. Most of them definitely seem like basses designed by guitarists.

That being said, I dig the old Victory basses. I also own a 2014 EB and would rock the heck out of a T-Bird. Also, the LP Bass (a la Jack Casaday) was killer, though I'm not as into its current Epiphone reincarnation.
 
Historically most Gibson basses have been terrible designs, the kind of thing a guitar player who's never played a gig on bass would think looked cool. Luckily yours is one of the exceptions.
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Gibson have produced a pretty varied line of basses over the years . For the longest time they stuck a humbucking pickup right at the end of the neck . Absolute mud . Then they decided to fix that by putting another right next to the bridge . Clank . For some reason it took them a while to grasp "the sweet spot" . So when the re-imagined DC Jr was announced I was excited to see them address that . I was imagining how things might have gone if they had done that in the first place . They might well have given Fender much more competition than they did .
 
I was looking for a backup bass for my Fender American Precision Pro V. I checked all my options in the price range of $500-$600. This popped up on Reverb for $599. Anyway I pulled the trigger and now it's mine. I did an NBD thread, got a couple of nice comments, but mostly ignored. NBD -- No big deal I guess.
So I'm surfing around TB this morning and I get to looking on some of these threads about the new Les Paul Jr. bass that's out there now, and I'm seeing a lot of negativity surrounding Gibson in general. I watched the vid where the guy interviews someone from Keissel (Carvin) guitars because Gibson is warning legal action for trademark infringement etc. It seems that is how it's going for Gibson these days. A bunch of bean counting dweebs have taken over the legal branch. There's no way me or any of my friends would pay more for a Gibson acoustic than a Martin, but Gibson seems to think their stuff is worth that much. I hope they get back to earth on their pricing soon. In the mean time, they've gotten a new CEO. Don't remember the guy's name, but he's a guitarist at least on some level so maybe some sanity will return to management at Gibson. However, they're still making guitars and basses. I can tell you one thing, this EB5 is one fine instrument, and I got it new at a really nice price. I think Gibson is going through a mid-life crisis. Trying to rebrand when their old brand was working just fine. Trying to chase down clones is a waste of time IMO. All that said, I really like my new Gibson!View attachment 3720887
Nice snag!
 
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I recently bought a pretty serious Gibson guitar. I don’t think the current management takes anything away from the instruments or the iconic brand. I think the same thing about my Harley-Davidson.
I think it’s incredibly stupid that Gibson thinks they can enforce a trademark they haven’t really enforced in decades, and that it’s dubious to trademark a guitar shape in the first place (the shape of a guitar is a functional element, they never could have gotten a patent for it, and if they had, the patent would have expired).
I’m going to go out on a limb and say that they think they can get a political win. Gibson is associated with conservative politics (problems with Obama administration, support of Trump administration, Trump’s perceived support of American brands being made in the US). If this case goes to the right judge, and they’ve been stacking the courts, or if the president endorses their legal fight, all bets are off; anything could happen. They probably see this as a long shot if the stars align, but they could.
 
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I bought an '18 EB 4 string when Zzounds was blowing them out for $600. I like it ALOT. The pickups really are unbelievable. The weight, balance, and ergonomics are outstanding. You can tell that a team at Gibson really spent some time thinking about bass players with this design. Of course because it doesn't look like a Les Paul, Firebird, or SG it sucks - right? Sadly for Gibson and basses that's how it seems to work. I have to say my EB plays circles around my recently acquired G&L USA L-2000 tonally and ergonomically. I hope they can gain traction in the market with it and that it endures the test of time. It really is a great bass.
 
I bought an '18 EB 4 string when Zzounds was blowing them out for $600. I like it ALOT. The pickups really are unbelievable. The weight, balance, and ergonomics are outstanding. You can tell that a team at Gibson really spent some time thinking about bass players with this design. Of course because it doesn't look like a Les Paul, Firebird, or SG it sucks - right? Sadly for Gibson and basses that's how it seems to work. I have to say my EB plays circles around my recently acquired G&L USA L-2000 tonally and ergonomically. I hope they can gain traction in the market with it and that it endures the test of time. It really is a great bass.

I kind of wish I'd done the same thing, those EBs look pretty sweet. I just ordered a Les Paul DC while they're cheap, not gonna make the same mistake twice.
 
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No. I'm talking about the version right before the one in the OP. It also came in a nice Hard case.
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Gibson has very often been their own worst enemy too many times to count but occasionally they make a great guitar or bass along the way. I had a G3 that I loved for many years and now I do love my EB 2014 5 String in Boullion Gold with the very flamed three piece neck and the plethora of tones.
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Love those basses! Wish they still made them