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Kala UBass Megathread, Part 4

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!!!! How do they sound? !!!!!

Twangy. How you'd expect round wounds to sound.
Think Jaco harmonics all up and down the neck
Think John Entwistle soloing on "My Generation."

Think Stanley Clarke.
Try playing "School Days" power chords on Thunderguts and then take these for a spin.

This was posted before, this guy plays way better than I do, but this is the tone I'm getting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_afPe9XJAnU
 
Tips for installing Pyramids:
  • They are wound to precise length, which is why they can't be installed on S-U-B solidbodies
  • They come with black plastic washers. When I installed my E string it buzzed like crazy. I discovered that the washer was too weak and was cupping, so I replaced it with a brass washer of the same size with excellent results. Subsequently did the same thing with the A string.
  • They come to stable tuning immediately and hold it well, as you would expect from a $60 set of strings

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More notes on the Pyramids:

Surprisingly, unplugged they are not as loud as Thunderguts.

Not surprisingly, they are more similar in tension to bass guitar.

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I'm like a lot of folks here.
I started on an Ashbory 15 years ago and got frustrated with those strings.

I started with factory strings on the u-bass, got tired of the stretch, then fell in love with T-Gs.

I bought a S-U-B, put on T-Gs and love it as well.

I just had to pull the trigger on some Pyramids for the acoustic.

Figured hell would freeze over if I waited for one of you guys to go first.

Cash available for smartphones and internet access, but $60 for hand-wound German strings is too expensive?
Guess everybody has their priorities.

I sure feel like I got my money's worth.

If I only had one u-bass, I personally would stick with T-Gs, but I'm more of a uke player than a bass player these days.

I think these strings open up an entire market segment for traditional bassists who get spooked by fat rubber band strings.
 
Posting videos from Saturday's gig. Fdeck and house amp. Flat EQ. YouTube channel is watsontbass. I have trouble posting links here. They would be the ones with the fewest views. Still need to work more on that upright thump in the higher registers.
 
davewave said:
More notes on the Pyramids:

Surprisingly, unplugged they are not as loud as Thunderguts.

Not surprisingly, they are more similar in tension to bass guitar.

...................................

I'm like a lot of folks here.
I started on an Ashbory 15 years ago and got frustrated with those strings.

I started with factory strings on the u-bass, got tired of the stretch, then fell in love with T-Gs.

I bought a S-U-B, put on T-Gs and love it as well.

I just had to pull the trigger on some Pyramids for the acoustic.

Figured hell would freeze over if I waited for one of you guys to go first.

Cash available for smartphones and internet access, but $60 for hand-wound German strings is too expensive?
Guess everybody has their priorities.

I sure feel like I got my money's worth.

If I only had one u-bass, I personally would stick with T-Gs, but I'm more of a uke player than a bass player these days.

I think these strings open up an entire market segment for traditional bassists who get spooked by fat rubber band strings.

Plugged in, do these retain any of the upright thump of the TG or stock strings, or are they more akin to your standard acoustic bass? I cant say that they are really of interest to me, as it seems like they defeat some of the point of the instrument, but it probably will work out for a lot of others. I'll be curious about the life of the strings, too, as $60 is more than I pay for a set of strings for my Dingwall.
 
SBassman said:
I wish I could play like that. :bawl:

Thanks Frank.

So I have the lower register sounding like I want it. The upper sounds good, just not how I want it. I guess I am still looking for more thump, less snarl, less sustain...like an upright. I'll dig for a self made upright video with the to e I am looking for and post it...
 
Another Saturday morning, more fun on the U-Bass. As an experiment, I've documenting my play times, practices and actual play. The kala has dominated the month of June. In 8 practices/services, the kala served up the tone 7 times.

My Gretsch is feeling left out.

Ya know, I have been drawn more to acoustic bass for years, but uprights were way out of my economic reach. This little bass is finally giving me that acoustic fix.
 
Plugged in, do these retain any of the upright thump of the TG or stock strings, or are they more akin to your standard acoustic bass?

More standard acoustic, you wouldn't like them.

But plugged in, they can be processed to sound like anything you want, no?
Is it not easier to dial out the twang and dial in the thump on a harmonic-rich metal string than vice versa on a plastic one?
Ergo, for many players this might be a more versatile tone option, especially if they like the feel of the strings.

I abandoned roundwound strings back in the 80s for the same drawbacks the Pyramids have now- string noise and fret wear.

I hope this product takes off and they offer flatwound or even better, smooth nylon tapewound versions in the future.


...I'll be curious about the life of the strings, too...

How do the T-Gs hold up for you?

I just took a set off my S-U-B after 6 months that feel like a dog has been chewing on them from from the first to seventh fret.
Anybody else have that problem?
Am I pressing too hard when I play?
Do I need my frets dressed?

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Regarding the life of high quality roundwounds, I have a set of Rotosound Superwound 505s on my Cort Steinberger copy that are 25 years old. :smug:
I can pick up that bass after 6 months in the case and it's still in tune. :eek:

...$60 is more than I pay for a set of strings for my Dingwall.

They're boutique strings with a limited market.
To me, it's a fair price.
All Pyramid bass strings are in that range.

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I sand-bagged one spare set of Superwounds in the mid-80s, they've been out of production 25 years.
The list price on the package is $43, discounted I paid $34.
Adjusted for inflation, in today's dollars that would be $73.
I feel lucky to have them, they're priceless now.

Guess I'm just a sucker for expensive strings. :D
 
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How do the T-Gs hold up for you?

I just took a set off my S-U-B after 6 months that feel like a dog has been chewing on them from from the first to seventh fret.
Anybody else have that problem?
Am I pressing too hard when I play?
Do I need my frets dressed?

I don't think any of us can claim hard Facts about longevity yet.
Based on what I have experienced to date, I'm expecting TGs to have very, very long life. I have been using the same set now for a few months, and I have zero signs of wear and tear. They sound better today than they ever have. I wouldn't Dream of messing with them.

Could you take some pictures of yours? I think it would be very valuable to all of us.

The only thing I have observed with others in the past is - lack of attention at the nut. If you don't keep an eye on the TG's at the nut while you tune, you Could have the string bind up at the nut and eventually stretch to the point of needing to be replaced. Lifting the strings in and out of the nut while tuning will prevent this from happening, but one or two here have experienced it.

Again - pics would contribute here to advancing our science of ultimate tone and feel via Thunderguts. :)
 
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