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Kids on leashes

Yeah same here. I have no disdain or negative comment for parents who chose not to use a leash or harness. Their choice and I'm totally fine with that. Good parents are good parents whether they feel the need to use the leash or not.

That said, this whole thread for me at least has been about the silliness of automatically judging and labeling someone a "bad parent" just because they are seen using one. There's just something very block-headed about that to me - the kid may have developmental/behavioral issues, or there may be any number of issues involved that the person doing the "judging" may have no clue about, yet, there it is - "bad parent". :rollno: How the hell would someone truly know who is a bad parent just by a quick glance:confused:
That to me sums up my involvement in this thread. As far as whether a leash is a good idea or bad idea - we can argue that ad infinitum as there really is no right or wrong answer.

Truly know? probably not. Be able to make a deduction with some degree of accuracy? Look to see how the kid behaves when the parent turns his/her back. I understand some kids are just a humongous pain in the ass, but if a parent turns their back to their kid for just a little bit to do something, and that kid starts acting out, chances are probably pretty good that there was a failure to communicate between parent and child at some point.
 
That sums it up for me. While I obviously had my own experience to draw from that proved that the "leash = bad parenting" automatic conclusion false, when BartmanPDX presented his story, that wrapped it up tight. Anyone jumping to any conclusion other than "Without knowing more, I just don't know" was one toke over the line.

But I'll admit that in my zeal to push this point of view I may have skimmed a few posts that were not really trying to label parents outright based solely on the use of a leash and as a result was guilty of exactly what I was complaining about.

I'll buy the first round.

*pulls up a seat at the bar* Cheers :D
 
This is obvious, but the reality is that nearly every good, attentive and caring parent must make some kind of practical determination about where to balance the amount of protection they provide to their kids and letting them get a few cuts and bruises as a valuable learning lesson. Overly protective parents who compulsively hover over their children so they absolutely minimize the chances that their kids get hurt are doing a disservice to their kids and are greatly increasing the chances that thier children will grow up to be less than capable of handling themselves with assurance in times of stress or danger.

Absolutely.

See: fanatical use of antibacterials, never letting kids wander the neighborhood alone, etc.

Protection needs to be appropriate for the age level, allowing kids to learn from their mistakes while minimizing the chances of mistakes with high long term costs.