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Lakland Owners Group #69

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Tonight’s rig. Same rig as every night. 55-94 into the JHS Colour Box to FOH DI and Hartke 115 at my knees. Sounds pretty darn good to me!
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So, I recently took a look at the Lakland offerings on a prominent website. There were quite a few “distressed”, roadwork, “relic”basses. Understand that if that kind of finish floats your boat then kudos. I just find it a little weird that any original Lakland 55-94’s would look that beat up since the first ones were built a little over 35 years ago. So, IMHO a relic Lakland won’t exist for many years to come. To each his/her/their own I guess.
 
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Ric Vice said:
So, I recently took a look at the Lakland offerings on a prominent website. There were quite a few “distressed”, roadwork, “relic”basses. Understand that if that kind of finish floats your boat then kudos. I just find it a little weird that any original Lakland 55-94’s would look that beat up since the first ones were built a little over 35 years ago. So, IMHO a relic Lakland won’t exist for many years to come. To each his/her/their own I guess.
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I don't care for factory relic'd instruments at all. But a lot of people must be buying them, they seem to be putting orders after orders of those.
 
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Ric Vice said:
So, I recently took a look at the Lakland offerings on a prominent website. There were quite a few “distressed”, roadwork, “relic”basses. Understand that if that kind of finish floats your boat then kudos. I just find it a little weird that any original Lakland 55-94’s would look that beat up since the first ones were built a little over 35 years ago. So, IMHO a relic Lakland won’t exist for many years to come. To each his/her/their own I guess.
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I had a gold 55-94 with alot of miles on it, and I thought the wear looked cool. It didn't look like the relic ones tho.

I think it would look better if they did the relic treatment on the neck too...a bass that worn would have its headstock smacked into something at least once!
 
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Here’s my unique ( to me) take. The finest Stradivarius violins have been lovingly maintained for several centuries with all sorts of refinishing, polishing and repair techniques, to protect and preserve those prized instruments. While over here in our neck of the woods it’s a cardinal sin to refinish my 1959 Precision because it would devalue the bass. It “does not compute”. Just my take however. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming. :);):roflmao:
 
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Ric Vice said:
Here’s my unique ( to me) take. The finest Stradivarius violins have been lovingly maintained for several centuries with all sorts of refinishing, polishing and repair techniques, to protect and preserve those prized instruments. While over here in our neck of the woods it’s a cardinal sin to refinish my 1959 Precision because it would devalue the bass. It “does not compute”. Just my take however. And now back to our regularly scheduled programming. :);):roflmao:
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That’s because those cats actually play their instruments 😂
Meanwhile pre cbs fenders are being bought and sold as investment vehicles rather than instruments for play. A player doesn’t care about a refin but a collector does…
 
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jlo95 said:
That’s because those cats actually play their instruments 😂
Meanwhile pre cbs fenders are being bought and sold as investment vehicles rather than instruments for play. A player doesn’t care about a refin but a collector does…
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Good point! Plus the individuals and institutions that own vintage violins, violas, and cellos accept the responsibility that to be healthy and passed down they have to be played. So, they continually loan them to professionals to use for public performances. Imagine if the Pre CBS Fender “collectors”
felt that responsibility. While I’m sure some do, many do not. Ok, derail over! Back to Lakland. Both my 55-94’s are over 25 years old and look great. No relic’s do I posses.
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Ric Vice said:
Good point! Plus the individuals and institutions that own vintage violins, violas, and cellos accept the responsibility that to be healthy and passed down they have to be played. So, they continually loan them to professionals to use for public performances. Imagine if the Pre CBS Fender “collectors”
felt that responsibility. While I’m sure some do, many do not. Ok, derail over! Back to Lakland. Both my 55-94’s are over 25 years old and look great. No relic’s do I posses. View attachment 7258071View attachment 7258072
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Two great basses. But I am really partial to the fretless.

I love my fretless. Really do.

For some reason playing a fretless it's much more freeing and less constricting than a fretted base.

Not sure why but it sure feels more loose and fun to play.

I used to worry about getting my intonation right and then I really realized that it really doesn't matter that much.

I am not saying that intonation does not need to be right on but what I'm saying is that if I let myself go the intonation follows.

Do you feel the same way?
 
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Two great basses. But I am really partial to the fretless.

I love my fretless. Really do.

For some reason playing a fretless it's much more freeing and less constricting than a fretted base.

Not sure why but it sure feels more loose and fun to play.

I used to worry about getting my intonation right and then I really realized that it really doesn't matter that much.

I am not saying that intonation does not need to be right on but what I'm saying is that if I let myself go the intonation follows.

Do you feel the same way?
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Max,

Absolutely, since my background is playing Double Bass ( I started on a Kay 1/2 size DB in middle school). Since majoring on it in college I discovered that fretless intonation is (at least to me) found in listening to the piano, guitar or whatever instrument is providing harmonic structure and using your ears to adjust each note and tune them to each other. The only thing that makes it challenging is the flatter radius of my Lakland 55-94’s fingerboard. Fretless basses are easier for me to play because of my background. Fretted basses aren’t the same. Just my take though. The fretless 55-94 I own feels like it was built by a master builder/craftsman. My fretted 55-94 is just a craftsman,
 
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Ric Vice said:
Max,

Absolutely, since my background is playing Double Bass ( I started on a Kay 1/2 size DB in middle school). Since majoring on it in college I discovered that fretless intonation is (at least to me) found in listening to the piano, guitar or whatever instrument is providing harmonic structure and using your ears to adjust each note and tune them to each other. The only thing that makes it challenging is the flatter radius of my Lakland 55-94’s fingerboard. Fretless basses are easier for me to play because of my background. Fretted basses aren’t the same. Just my take though. The fretless 55-94 I own feels like it was built by a master builder/craftsman. My fretted 55-94 is just a craftsman,
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I picked up a cheaper upright a few years ago ( shout out to Gman for telling me about it!)

Have not played it in a while...I am far from good on it but it is a blast to play!

I have a nice NS designs 5 string EUB that gets played more and is much easier to transport...
 
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Ric Vice said:
Max,

Absolutely, since my background is playing Double Bass ( I started on a Kay 1/2 size DB in middle school). Since majoring on it in college I discovered that fretless intonation is (at least to me) found in listening to the piano, guitar or whatever instrument is providing harmonic structure and using your ears to adjust each note and tune them to each other. The only thing that makes it challenging is the flatter radius of my Lakland 55-94’s fingerboard. Fretless basses are easier for me to play because of my background. Fretted basses aren’t the same. Just my take though. The fretless 55-94 I own feels like it was built by a master builder/craftsman. My fretted 55-94 is just a craftsman,
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BTW... Just for clarity... I'm Doug ( aka the Doude) 😉

But love Max as well so you can call me his name of you like. 😅
 
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