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Lakland Owners Group #69

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Thanks for chiming in! Question: has anyone retrofitted new tuners on a 4-94 or 44-94? I have the older Hipshot HB1s but looking into changing them up as the D string tuner is difficult to use - I have done my due diligence on trying to fix it up, clean, lubricate etc. to no avail - and a replacement HB1 happens to be slightly different/raised gear which looked awkward on the set and as such, went back to the old one. I also noticed the new HB1 was not near as smooth as the other older ones. Making new holes on an otherwise great bass is also not very appealing..
 
Thanks for chiming in! Question: has anyone retrofitted new tuners on a 4-94 or 44-94? I have the older Hipshot HB1s but looking into changing them up as the D string tuner is difficult to use - I have done my due diligence on trying to fix it up, clean, lubricate etc. to no avail - and a replacement HB1 happens to be slightly different/raised gear which looked awkward on the set and as such, went back to the old one. I also noticed the new HB1 was not near as smooth as the other older ones. Making new holes on an otherwise great bass is also not very appealing..
How old are the tuners? Most of the hipshot tuners are pretty easy to disassemble (and reassemble ;))- I had a 44-64 that I got a detuner/xtender for and it had the regular turn (not reverse like the bass) so I took it apart and replaced the tuner to make it work. And then traded the bass 😄


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Thanks for chiming in! Question: has anyone retrofitted new tuners on a 4-94 or 44-94? I have the older Hipshot HB1s but looking into changing them up as the D string tuner is difficult to use - I have done my due diligence on trying to fix it up, clean, lubricate etc. to no avail - and a replacement HB1 happens to be slightly different/raised gear which looked awkward on the set and as such, went back to the old one. I also noticed the new HB1 was not near as smooth as the other older ones. Making new holes on an otherwise great bass is also not very appealing..
That is news to me. HB1s have changed? Can you show a picture of them side by side?
 
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Thanks for chiming in! Question: has anyone retrofitted new tuners on a 4-94 or 44-94? I have the older Hipshot HB1s but looking into changing them up as the D string tuner is difficult to use - I have done my due diligence on trying to fix it up, clean, lubricate etc. to no avail - and a replacement HB1 happens to be slightly different/raised gear which looked awkward on the set and as such, went back to the old one. I also noticed the new HB1 was not near as smooth as the other older ones. Making new holes on an otherwise great bass is also not very appealing..
I have an older BT1 that would be a direct replacement for the HB1 in terms of fit. Obviously that is a de-tuner, not a standard tuner. If you want it, you’d have to use your E string tuner as a replacement for the D string tuner and use the BT1 for the E string. That being said, I’m sure your bass is reverse geared. Hipshot didn’t sell reverse geared tuners directly, at least from what I can gather so your E string would tune one direction and the other 3 would be opposite. Maybe that’s only true for the older 44-60 and older 44-64s though. I don’t know 100%.
 
The three tone sunburst with black hardware is stunning! I see the Aguilar pups but I don’t remember what pre you put in it.
Have the LH3 in there. Works well with the Aguilars.

The other has Nordstrand big splits paired with a Bartolini NTMB+ 5.2.
 
I have an older BT1 that would be a direct replacement for the HB1 in terms of fit. Obviously that is a de-tuner, not a standard tuner. If you want it, you’d have to use your E string tuner as a replacement for the D string tuner and use the BT1 for the E string. That being said, I’m sure your bass is reverse geared. Hipshot didn’t sell reverse geared tuners directly, at least from what I can gather so your E string would tune one direction and the other 3 would be opposite. Maybe that’s only true for the older 44-60 and older 44-64s though. I don’t know 100%.
If you want that older BT1, let me know. We can work something out. I got back to late to edit the original post.
 
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That is news to me. HB1s have changed? Can you show a picture of them side by side?

I actually already returned it - the difference is the height of the worm wheel, and subsquent pillow blocks - its subtle but its there - the older HB1 gear wheel sits flat on the body plate, whereas the new HB1 has a slight machined bushing added to the bottom of the worm reel - otherwise they look identical - once installed with older versions, it was noticeable visually and the tuner key is slightly farther from the headstock due to height differential - I was surprised! If I wasn't such a perfectionist I would have left it on, but it was also not buttery smooth to operate - I didn't replace the bushing, so that might have contributed.
 
Hey guys!! So I got the 2003 44-02 which has the Bart pickups. Its all good except the knobs are not like the newer ones. I don't know if its a Korean series thing, a Bartolini thing, or just something they changed over time but I don't like these as much. They feel a little bigger or something. Where can I pickup knobs that are like what they are using on the current Laklands?
 
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Hey guys!! So I got the 2003 44-02 which has the Bart pickups. Its all good except the knobs are not like the newer ones. I don't know if its a Korean series thing, a Bartolini thing, or just something they changed over time but I don't like these as much. They feel a little bigger or something. Where can I pickup knobs that are like what they are using on the current Laklands?
I'll trade you for a like new set of the new ones. PM incoming.
 
Here is useless post for historical purposes if anyone cares. I was curious what the early Skylines looked like in the control cavity because this was the era when all of the electronics were installed in the USA with the exception of the -01 models which were all done in Korea. Were they shielded? Was it tape or paint? I could never find a post or photo of one so here we go. Very neat and tidy with paint (as opposed to tape which was the standard USA method) although they did add a piece of tape up to the cover (which has tape on the back side) and they used that as a ground spot. So very nice but not identical to how they did it in the USA. Likely because it came from Korea with the paint so why duplicate work. Making that tape look as nice as they do is not a quick task.
 

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