Lakland Owners Group #69

[basspraiser]

Sorry to hear that Doug, happy you figured out the issue though - yeah, the Peterson StroBo stomps are battery eaters, I use these alot and have had to integrate them with power supplies, I was going through batteries like no tomorrow. It's a pain because they are such amazing tuners, great for my 5 and 6 strings especially. The clip on Peterson Stoboclip is an option, but that floor stomp is still my preference.

Yes...I agree!
They are fantastic.
I'm hoping the adapter will work.

Peace

 

[Ric Vice]

Plus, there is an issue with the Peterson Strobo Clip. The screw that holds the tunes to the clip invariably works itself loose and falls out, rendering the tuner unusable. . Peterson does not have a replacement for the screw and bolt they will send you a new tuner provided it’s under warranty. It’s a Catch 22 situation.

 

[MattLplaysBass]

Frustrating Sunday!

Church service was in process.

Just after the prayers I get back to my station. Ready to play the best BASS song of the service and I have no signal!

I check the tuner... Looks fine...battery low but still working

I checked the wireless feed from the tuner to the direct box... Looked great but I replaced it with cable just in case .....

Meanwhile the song is still going on... And I'm missing the great parts!

Did a few other things .. Still no signal...

Had to sit down and try the bass between each fix just to see if it was working but nothing was..

Finally ended up changing the battery but that was too late... Song was over and the sermon started....I was still trying to get my bass working during the sermon but not trying to interrupt the pastor.

After the sermon I came back and was definitely there for the next song but very disappointed.

Our worship leader wrote this song and it is a great one to play and very fun..

He's also going to be retiring very soon so I'm not sure if we will have another chance to do this particular song.

I have a Peterson strobostomp tuner which is great but it seems to eat batteries.

I was kind of thinking maybe it had to do with the fact that the unit always seem to drain power as long as the button was pressed in the " live position" ( through the tuner to the signal chain)

I ended up having to take the battery out after every service and that's still seemed to be a problem.

I am getting a power block for the unit but don't think that really should be necessary.

It's also going to be kind of a pain to find an outlet every time.

There is an outlet near my station but it is dead. I will need to run The power cord to a strip that is a bit away and may create a trip hazard.

Has anybody had one and I wonder if mine might be defective because it drains batteries so quickly ???

I tried to take the unit apart this afternoon to see if there was any issues. Me guitar player suggested that maybe here was a stuck switch on the input jack. I did not see any issues.

Just wondering if anybody has similar situations with this tuner. It was not cheap and I do love it so but it seems to suck the life out of every battery I put into it.

In the immortal words of radar O'Reilly "That is all."

Peterson’s a local to Chicago company, did you try reaching out to them? There’s a guy in the Chicago Bass Players FB group that works there…

 

[basspraiser]

Peterson’s a local to Chicago company, did you try reaching out to them? There’s a guy in the Chicago Bass Players FB group that works there…

Did not know that!
Thank you

 

[basspraiser]

Peterson’s a local to Chicago company, did you try reaching out to them? There’s a guy in the Chicago Bass Players FB group that works there…

Thanks much (again!)
I just opened a ticket with them.
Will see how they respond

 

[Z-Bass]

Over time I settled with a single 55-94 Lined Fretless that I use for most of my gigs. Although I own a Fretted 55-94, the 35” Scale has always been a challenge on a fretted instrument even with a Gruv Gear duo strap. So I’m headed to a 34” fairly soon.

Do you think you'll try a different brand or stick with Lakland now that the 34" scale is an option for the 55-94s?

 

[Pacman]

Frustrating Sunday!

Church service was in process.

Just after the prayers I get back to my station. Ready to play the best BASS song of the service and I have no signal!

I check the tuner... Looks fine...battery low but still working

I checked the wireless feed from the tuner to the direct box... Looked great but I replaced it with cable just in case .....

Meanwhile the song is still going on... And I'm missing the great parts!

Did a few other things .. Still no signal...

Had to sit down and try the bass between each fix just to see if it was working but nothing was..

Finally ended up changing the battery but that was too late... Song was over and the sermon started....I was still trying to get my bass working during the sermon but not trying to interrupt the pastor.

After the sermon I came back and was definitely there for the next song but very disappointed.

Our worship leader wrote this song and it is a great one to play and very fun..

He's also going to be retiring very soon so I'm not sure if we will have another chance to do this particular song.

I have a Peterson strobostomp tuner which is great but it seems to eat batteries.

I was kind of thinking maybe it had to do with the fact that the unit always seem to drain power as long as the button was pressed in the " live position" ( through the tuner to the signal chain)

I ended up having to take the battery out after every service and that's still seemed to be a problem.

I am getting a power block for the unit but don't think that really should be necessary.

It's also going to be kind of a pain to find an outlet every time.

There is an outlet near my station but it is dead. I will need to run The power cord to a strip that is a bit away and may create a trip hazard.

Has anybody had one and I wonder if mine might be defective because it drains batteries so quickly ???

I tried to take the unit apart this afternoon to see if there was any issues. Me guitar player suggested that maybe here was a stuck switch on the input jack. I did not see any issues.

Just wondering if anybody has similar situations with this tuner. It was not cheap and I do love it so but it seems to suck the life out of every battery I put into it.

In the immortal words of radar O'Reilly "That is all."

That tuner is going to be drawing power from the battery any time there's a cable plugged into the input, whether the unit is bypassed or not. If you want to conserve battery power, make sure nothing is plugged in when you're not using it.

 

[basspraiser]

That tuner is going to be drawing power from the battery any time there's a cable plugged into the input, whether the unit is bypassed or not. If you want to conserve battery power, make sure nothing is plugged in when you're not using it.

Thank you.....I know that is the way it is supposed to work, but it seems to be drawing power even when something is not plugged in.

The help desk just responded by saying that the battery should last 6-8 hours total. That seems very short (IMHO).

My 9 volts in my active basses last much longer than that!

 

[mixbus]

Thank you.....I know that is the way it is supposed to work, but it seems to be drawing power even when something is not plugged in.

The help desk just responded by saying that the battery should last 6-8 hours total. That seems very short (IMHO).

My 9 volts in my active basses last much longer than that!

Crazy! That really seems like a short amount of time.

 

[basspraiser]

Crazy! That really seems like a short amount of time.

I would agree!

 

[TDR1138]

New to me, just got this 55-02 from the classifieds here. My first foray into Lakland.

So far, I’m really enjoying it. The ergonomics and balance is great. And I love the natural ash body and rosewood fretboard look. Shame they don’t still offer that.

I’m not a big 5 string player. It won’t really fit in so well with my band, but I’m hoping to play it with the church gigs I occasionally get called for. I’m used to punchy passive basses, so the Bartolini electronics may take some getting used to. I’m learning quickly that they’re very dependent on the preamp for any power and volume.

I know they’re a more modern sounding bass, but anyone use these with flats?

 

[basspraiser]

New to me, just got this 55-02 from the classifieds here. My first foray into Lakland.

So far, I’m really enjoying it. The ergonomics and balance is great. And I love the natural ash body and rosewood fretboard look. Shame they don’t still offer that.

I’m not a big 5 string player. It won’t really fit in so well with my band, but I’m hoping to play it with the church gigs I occasionally get called for. I’m used to punchy passive basses, so the Bartolini electronics may take some getting used to. I’m learning quickly that they’re very dependent on the preamp for any power and volume.

I know they’re a more modern sounding bass, but anyone use these with flats?

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This is a great Church gig bass!.
I exclusively play at church and use Lakland 5ers all of the time

 

[sj_bass]

NBD! Got this Lakland DJ-4 (Adam Clayton-ish) bass today… Came with an Audere preamp and those creamy Dimarzio pickups.
But I did not get a pickguard for it… can anyone help - either with a template or even a trace of their pickguard on a piece of paper so I can get one made? TIA

 

[GregC]

Just reposting what a great bass player said.

 

[macribas]

New to me, just got this 55-02 from the classifieds here. My first foray into Lakland.

So far, I’m really enjoying it. The ergonomics and balance is great. And I love the natural ash body and rosewood fretboard look. Shame they don’t still offer that.

I’m not a big 5 string player. It won’t really fit in so well with my band, but I’m hoping to play it with the church gigs I occasionally get called for. I’m used to punchy passive basses, so the Bartolini electronics may take some getting used to. I’m learning quickly that they’re very dependent on the preamp for any power and volume.

I know they’re a more modern sounding bass, but anyone use these with flats?

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Nice catch!

 

[MaxSpinrun]

How much does it weigh?

 

[sector7g]

NBD! Got this Lakland DJ-4 (Adam Clayton-ish) bass today… Came with an Audere preamp and those creamy Dimarzio pickups.
But I did not get a pickguard for it… can anyone help - either with a template or even a trace of their pickguard on a piece of paper so I can get one made? TIA

I've been looking for replacement pickguards as well. I even emailed Lakland, but haven't heard anything. They don't like to pick up the phone either these days... not sure what's going on. There are companies out there that make them, but you'd be looking at over $100, which is just crazy. I have a Darryl Jones, but I've noticed subtle differences between the models, so I'm not sure if that would help you.

 

[Ach]

Finally had some time to work on my Lakland 55-02 Nordstrand upgrade (Lakstrand/Nordland, lol).

Changes:
- Neck pickup: Nordstrand NJ5s.
- Bridge pickups: Nordstrand MM5.4.
- Balance pot: 500kOhms MN-taper.
- Bridge switch: 4PDT which engages a 2.2nF capacitor when both bridge coils are selected (to simulate Stingray 3EQ preamp).
- Copper tape shielding of all cavities.

I left the LH3 preamp, but set the signal boost trim pot to 0%.

Sound:
Nordstrand are much less polite than the stock LH3. The 500k balance pot has it's pros and cons. On one hand: bass is now usable in passive mode with exactly the same volume level, the MM pickups in parallel + the capacitor has nice resonance peak around 4kHz (however I will try to verify it, to avoid placebo effect), on the other hand, the balance is only useful around the center, if you go beyond 50% in either direction it already sounds like full pan.

I will try to record a couple of samples (they will be sloppy because I am more of a tinkerer than a real bass player).

Findings:
- Skylines' wiring is a rats nest . Bridge pickup cavity was not even shielded.
- Apparently the Nordstrand MM5.4 pickups do not have polepieces grounding, so they buzz when you touch them. I have grounded them myself (but have work better on one of the polepieces, which still buzzes).
- My Nordstrand J pickup does have a polepiece grounding wire but looks like it has failed, buzz when I touch the polepieces. Only 1 out of 10 polepieces has continuity to ground. Still don't know how to ground them, because the J pickup construction does not expose the polepieces from below, and I am afraid to break it. I have ordered blank pickup covers which do not have the polepieces exposed, so maybe this will be my solution, instead of dealing with grounding.
- The Nordstrand J and MM pickups are not perfectly balanced (which is understandable) so the true middle of the balance tone is actually when I pan it 10% towards neck.
- The noiseless pickups are not perfectly noiseless, I still have some hum in all configurations except both coils of MM (which is perfectly silent, but I guess my capacitor also hides most of the tone - to be verified).

 

[twspalm]

Concur about "Skylines' wiring is a rats nest . Bridge pickup cavity was not even shielded." Had to redo all that on my preowned 2008 55-01. Much better now though.

 

[macribas]

The 500k balance pot has it's pros and cons. On one hand: bass is now usable in passive mode with exactly the same volume level, the MM pickups in parallel + the capacitor has nice resonance peak around 4kHz (however I will try to verify it, to avoid placebo effect), on the other hand, the balance is only useful around the center, if you go beyond 50% in either direction it already sounds like full pan.

Thanks for reporting back with details. Yes, that balance problem is expected with the larger pot resistance, like we discussed a couple of months ago. It is probably also sucking some of the highs when you move off center.