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Larry Knechtel, Bassist

Thank you Lonnie, I first heard of your dad for playing bass on 6 of the tunes on the first Doors album, this I had heard years ago, don't remember where but I loved his bass playing.

I also noticed the bass playing on this tune when I first got this album when it was new.

"And that's the way the Doors remained ... until the band went into Sunset Sound Recorders to lay down the tracks for its self-titled debut. While recording, producer Paul Rothchild – who would helm the band's first five LPs – decided that Manzarek's keyboard bass wasn't quite cutting it in the studio.

So Rothchild brought in a member of Los Angeles' fabled Wrecking Crew, bassist and pianist Larry Knechtel, to strengthen the sound of six of the album's 11 songs. Knechtel's work went uncredited, but that's his sturdy playing on "Light My Fire," "Back Door Man" and other tracks."



Read More: The Secret History of the Doors' Bass Players | The Secret History of the Doors' Bass Players




Yes... When Dad did the work on The Doors, it didn't register with him that there was anything remarkable going on... was just 'another day at the office'... nobody knew who The Doors were at that point, and he didn't play with the band, he was just brought in to overdub doubling part's for Ray Manzarek's keyboard bass, I think Ray was using one of those Rhodes bass units. I think Bruce Botnick was the engineer on that stuff, Dad didn't remember doing the session until Bruce reminded him of it years later. I always thought the repetitive bass motif during the solo section of LMF must've been a workout, Dad always played with a pretty heavy hand. Dad did remember recording 'Light My Fire' with Trini Lopez a little later, he sometimes commented on the interesting chord changes on that song.

BTW -- the photo in the link you posted shows Dad playing Glen Campbell's guitar... It was a Teisco T60 with a dark olive green metalflake finish. Had a couple odd-looking cutouts in the body and headstock. Somehow Dad ended up with it, it was in his possession through the 70's... It had Glen's set list taped on the back of the body and a little 1"x1-1/2" picture of Elvis taped to the front. Dad must've given it back to Glen at some point. I spent some time twangin' on it myself.
 
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I like pop too, I like everything but pop has a special place in my heart probably because I had my ears glued to the radio from the first time I heard the Beatles in early 1964 and heard all the top 40 pop all throughout the 60's and early 70's. Even when Underground and AOR radio was big I would still occasionally listen to top 40 as I had a hobby of listening for long distance AM stations.

I think I'd say Dad liked Music... as a professional he played what he was hired to play, and did his best to make it work for the client. His biggest initial influence was black R&B and Hard Bop music, he had a big collection of 45's and LP's and used to listen to them a lot. He loved Jimmy Smith, Ray Charles, and Bobby Timmons. 'Switched On Bach' was a real head-turner for him. 'Edwin Hawkins Singers' was another. There were some sessions where Dad was knocked out by a particular song and would go buy the record later. Dad really liked Brian Wilson's ideas, he thought the chord progression on 'Got Only Knows' was a stroke of genius. When the first Bonnie and Delaney album came out, Dad darn near wore out the grooves on it, he had a deep respect for Leon Russell's playing on it. Dad really liked Led Zeppelin, mostly because of Bonham's drumming and the riff-based grooves. Lee Sklar gave Dad a tape of Billy Cobham's first album which Lee had played on, 'Spectrum'... Dad liked it but then I absconded with it and became a devoted early fusion fan, it changed my life. Dad couldn't quite get into some of the technical stuff I was listening to, so I guess that was his limit there. But he did listen to the radio and there were songs from time to time he really liked. I guess generally he liked exuberant soulful stuff, didn't really go for dark minor/dissonant sounds or things which sounded technically contrived.
 
Very nice melodic bass line in this, I remember the tune and always liked Bread but never really concentrated on this one, they had so many great tunes.

David Gates sued Kenny Rogers over this (Lost Without Your Love)... and won. 'She Believes in Me' had the exact same chord changes and melody in the chorus.
 
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Wow, so cool Lonnie. Thanks for this history. Needless to say, your dad's name is all over the majority of my record collection. By the way, what was your grandfather's grocery store? My great grandfather was one of the Ralphs brothers who started that company in the 1800s.
K&K Market in Bell, CA. Grampa was a butcher, had an old-fashioned butcher shop, sawdust floor and all. His partner handled the produce.
 
Hi Cousin - That was an awesome read. You are a great writer - and after reading this last night all kinds of memories came flooding in.

I still miss Uncle Larry a lot - and I take a lot of inspiration from him in my bass playing. I mostly heard him play piano, but it has been fun to go back and dig into his bass playing catalog.

This is on of my favorite pics :)

Rock on!


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Yes... When Dad did the work on The Doors, it didn't register with him that there was anything remarkable going on... was just 'another day at the office'... nobody knew who The Doors were at that point, and he didn't play with the band, he was just brought in to overdub doubling part's for Ray Manzarek's keyboard bass, I think Ray was using one of those Rhodes bass units. I think Bruce Botnick was the engineer on that stuff, Dad didn't remember doing the session until Bruce reminded him of it years later. I always thought the repetitive bass motif during the solo section of LMF must've been a workout, Dad always played with a pretty heavy hand. Dad did remember recording 'Light My Fire' with Trini Lopez a little later, he sometimes commented on the interesting chord changes on that song.

BTW -- the photo in the link you posted shows Dad playing Glen Campbell's guitar... It was a Teisco T60 with a dark olive green metalflake finish. Had a couple odd-looking cutouts in the body and headstock. Somehow Dad ended up with it, it was in his possession through the 70's... It had Glen's set list taped on the back of the body and a little 1"x1-1/2" picture of Elvis taped to the front. Dad must've given it back to Glen at some point. I spent some time twangin' on it myself.




Without your dad's and others' playing on later albums I doubt I would have been as big a Doors fan as I was. They always had the best. I love the sound your father got on that album:

It sounds like he may have used a pick on this tune, you really hear the deepness of the electric bass with good earphones. I have always like the sound of a P bass with flats and a pick.




Teisco made some wild looking instruments, I've always wanted one of these, Teisco Delray:

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There was interest expressed in hearing from me about my father, Larry Knechtel, in his role as a session bassist with The Wrecking Crew.

So, here we go, from my own perspective as a child and as a bassist...

Dad was primarily known for his work on piano/keyboards, which was his primary instrument. However, he seemed rather adept at being able quickly assimilate whatever instruments he had available. He was first-chair clarinet in high school... he recorded an entire album playing harmonica ( "Larry Nelson -- The 'In' Harmonica... the label thought his last name was too weird to sell ), and he's known for playing the guitar solo on Bread's 'Guitar Man'. He once rented a tenor sax and within a couple weeks was noodling around on the thing, though his tone was reportedly terrible. My Mom couldn't handle hearing it, she made him return the thing after a month.

Dad played piano in an 'inner city band' in his early teens which featured talented kids from the schools around Los Angeles. There he met Jim Horn and Mike Deasy, the three of them started jamming on rock and roll and before long found themselves playing in club bands and getting noticed. All three of them are now considered 'Wrecking Crew' members. Dad wrote and recorded 'Pigeon Toed' when he was 16, it became a local hit on the R&B stations and he got a royalty check for over $600. Both Dad and Jim got recruited into Duane Eddy's band in the late 50's and spent a while living in Tuscon, AZ where they played in various club bands and took jobs as extras in low-budget western films ('Thunder of Drums' being the most notable). Dad returned to L.A. when he met my Mom but still recorded with Duane into the early 60's.

Sometime shortly after I was born (1962?), Dad was working days at my grandfather's grocery store and 6 nights a week in clubs to make ends meet... but at some point there was a dry spell where nobody seemed to need a pianist. My Mom confronted Dad and told him he had to get work somehow. So Dad borrowed a Fender bass from Duane Eddy and immediately started taking gigs as a bassist. I don't know if he had any prior exposure at all... but it saved the day and he was sought after.

Dad was touring with Kip Tyler and the Flips when he got a call from Steve Douglas asking if he could do a recording session on piano. Dad understood the opportunity, quit the band, and promptly showed up for the session. It was the beginning of his session career. Through the early 60s there were more sessions and Dad realized he didn't have the formal training he needed to deal with them, so he hired the best piano teacher he could find (not sure who she was but she cost $25/hr) and woodshedded intensely for several years. He continued to play club gigs as a bassist, often backing Johnny Rivers at the Whisky-A-Go-Go. He also did start getting some session work as a bassist.

The pivotal moment for Dad the bassist was the TV show 'Shindig'. The first-call guy for the job was Lyle Ritz... but the producers of the show didn't think Lyle was photogenic enough and passed on him. Lyle was a Wrecking Crew member and a gracious guy... He recommended Dad for the bass seat and even gave Dad a few lessons. Dad must've paid attention... link below is a clip of him playing upright behind Aretha Franklin... I had no idea he could do this. Another clip -- in this one he's dancing around behind Howlin' Wolf with the Rolling Stones soaking it up. I can't remember what time the show aired but Mom let me stay up late those nights to watch Dad on TV, I was like 5-6 at the time.

Aretha Franklin

Howlin' Wolf

The visibility of Shindig opened up new doors for session work, I think Dad was getting more calls for bass than keyboards for several years. Some might have considered him a competitor to Carol Kaye and Joe Osborn... but in truth there was plenty of work to go around and Dad played mostly fingerstyle with a funky R&B vibe which was different from Carol or Joe's approach. Towards the end of the 60's, the Wrecking Crew was firmly entrenched and the majority of Dad's calls had shifted back to keyboards for the most lucrative sessions. But there was still plenty of 'show biz' work -- Hanna-Barbera, The Partridge Family, The Monkees, etc, where any given day Dad might be supplying sounds for Danny Bonnaducci's bass or Susan Dey's keyboards, just depended on who got the call and on what. Dad had an answering service booking his sessions, he was doing 3 sessions a day most days, with the last one generally reserved for those projects which had no firm arrangements and relied on the players to invent parts, etc. They would often last well into the AM... I rarely saw my Dad during the week in those years, he'd still be in bed when I went off to school.

The trio of Hal Blaine, Joe Osborn, and Dad became the primary backbone of many pop records in the 1969-1972 period. They accompanied Simon and Garfunkel for 3 nights at Carnegie Hall, I got to go along for that. Joe had a recording studio in his garage, he had his own label, 'Magic Lamp' records. Dad spent a good amount of time there and there were some oddball 45's that emerged featuring various songs they'd written. Joe had met Karen Carpenter somehow and started using her as a drummer and background vocalist. I was sometimes killing time in Joe's back yard while all this was going on, playing with Joe's daughter who was my age (sorry, her first name escapes me now).

As far as recording credits go, I leave all that to others to sort out. All I know is what I witnessed and things Dad told me later. Union contracts often settle debates as to who did what, but they only reflect who got paid for the session. Carol Kaye later laid claim to 'Mr Tambourine Man' by the Byrds... when challenged by others who said Dad did the session, Carol's response was something to the effect of '...well, Larry didn't play with a pick...'. I think Roger McGuinne finally emailed her a copy of the session contract showing Dad as the bassist and the subject was dropped. On the other end, Dad told me that Brian Wilson had him stay late after a session and asked Dad to track bass on 'Help Me Rhonda'. I don't know if they recorded over Carol's part (it's not like they had 24 tracks back then)... or which part ultimately made it on the record, but Dad was confident it's his. But the contract would likely show Carol. A similar instance was 'Mrs Robinson' by Simon and Garfunkel, Dad said he was the bassist on that one though Joe was on the other tracks on that album. Dad told me it was he who suggested to Paul the climbing guitar lick during the vamp, I think Dad showed it to him on bass.

Dad's main bass was a '57 sunburst Fender Precision up until 1968, when it was stolen along with Dad's car one night during a session, Dad had left it locked in the trunk. He replaced it with a '58 sunburst which (since refinished) is what is now on display at the MHOF museum in Nashville (I'll post a separate thread about Dad's equipment). Dad played mostly fingerstyle, but would play with a pick if the producer asked him to. There were felt bass picks lying around the house when I was a kid. When I studied at North Texas State in the early 80's I landed a job as sound man for the jazz department, mostly working with the One O'Clock band. The guy who hired me was the assistant director of the department, Bobby Knight, who had played bass trombone on many Wrecking Crew sessions. He told me his most vivid memory of Dad was him sitting a the piano with a bass pick stuck to his forehead during a Nancy Sinatra session.

Around 1972, Dad joined the group 'Bread'... which is credited with basically inventing 'Soft Rock', though that was more characteristic of David Gate's songs than the band as a whole. It was a lucrative opportunity but had its demands and Dad was less available for session work going forward. Dad did serve as Bread's main bassist, particularly in live shows, but other members would take the bass seat at times, which permitted Dad to play keyboards some.

The early 70's saw then influx of new blood into the L.A. recording scene. The future members of Toto were sometimes hanging with Dad in his studio behind our house or sitting in control rooms during sessions, learning everything they could about the business. Other very capable players were making inroads... Dad had zero formal training on bass and could see the writing on the wall. In his words, 'When Lee Sklar showed up, I felt like I had to put the bass down...'. Which he didn't exactly do, but Dad and Lee were good friends and Dad mostly focused on keyboards after that. Dad still got some sessions though, and he played bass on the projects he produced, most notably 'Chevy Van' by Sammy Johns.

By this time we had moved from L.A. to raise cattle in a wild corner of western Washington under the shadow of Mt Baker, Dad had figured his recording career had run its course and following a personal battle with cancer had decided he wanted to chase other dreams. He remained a member of Bread and still got a few session calls and production projects.

By the late 70's, Bread had hit the skids with the two principal members locked in an acrimonious lawsuit which dragged on for years and resulted in the breakup of the band and an injunction being issued against all royalty payments. There was no more touring. Dad's bass sat in our studio, I would goof around on it jamming with my friends. David Gates ended up borrowing the bass for a while. When I was in Texas I was studying saxophone, but I had an old Univox bass (Hoffner copy) that Dad had given me in my grade school days and I found myself getting tapped for bass gigs by drummers I knew in school. Then I joined a cover rock band doing the roadhouse circuit down there and begged Dad to send me his bass, the Univox wasn't cutting it. Dad had David Gates ship it down to me, the bass was pretty much mine for the next 12 years until Dad finally made me give it back and go buy my own bass.

Apart from a couple corporate gigs backing David Gates, Dad didn't do any more work on bass. Dad and I spent about 20 years playing together in bands and doing sessions for local projects, I was generally the bassist in those lineups.

A high point for me occurred during a album session ('Heavy Wood') for a friend, Nolan Murray, who is a fiddle/mandolin player. Nolan had spent some time in Branson as Loretta Lynn's musical director, was roommates there with Bob Babbitt, and was good friends with John Cowan (Newgrass Revival/Doobie Bros). Nolan was also a member of a popular Canadian folk group, "The Tiller's Folly". So Nolan had all his friends in on the session... In all, there were 5 of us bassists in there, though John only provided vocals and Dad only played keys. Bob Babbitt, myself, and Laurence Knight (from Tiller's) provided bass tracks. To top it all off, the notable Philly producer Thom Bell dropped in on the session as he'd recently moved to the area. It was amazing we got anything done, the stories just kept flowing. Fortunately the studio had extended Nolan a generously low hourly rate.

Dad's career got a reboot around 2005... Rick Rubin was doing retreads on artists such as Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond... Rick's preferred keyboardist was Benmont Tench ( Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers )... Benmont couldn't do the Neil Diamond session for 'Kentucky Woman' because he was already booked, so he said 'Call Larry Knechtel, he played on the original...'. Dad did the session, which led to him working with the Dixie Chix on their last album and subsequent tour. Dad and I had a recording project in work when he passed away in 2009, the tunes on the two memorial videos on YouTube are tracks from those sessions. The project remains incomplete, I may just post the basic tracks someday.

I will say that even as a keyboardist, Dad was one hell of a bass player... he could jam all night playing walking left-hand bass on a MiniMoog or whatever, it was like there was a separate guy living in his left arm. It took some adjustment for he and I to work together with me as a bassist, it was hard for us to stay out of each other's way at times. Dad told me apologetically, 'Sorry, I just like my bass lines'. I liked his bass lines too, there's still much I could learn from them.

Lonnie

Memorial #1
Memorial #2
Larry Knechtel - Grammy award winner and legendary member of The Wrecking Crew and Bread


Lonnie, your father was an amazing talent. Fascinating read. Thanks for sharing.
 
I hope you have all of this on paper as well as here. Digital formats come and go, but paper is most reliable. If you wanted to, you could probably get an advanced degree in Popular Culture studies just on the basis of what you've presented here. This is astonishingly detailed!
 
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Lonnie, Thank you so much for sharing the stories and the videos! Very cool. :thumbsup:

awesome story and a fine tribute to a truly awesome musician.
Sorry i didn't follow this back to the original post. It deserves the recognition, but i don't have the time right now.

I totally loved the music of Bread but young as i was, I never really heard the full story of why they disappeared.
I recently listened to "Guitar man" and it blew my mind. as a kid i heard the song and loved it, but never broke it down by its various parts. I never realized that there were 4 to 5 guitar parts(including bass) simultaneously playing. Now in my old age having studied music theory I have a whole new appreciation for the musical mastery of the whole band.
 
There was interest expressed in hearing from me about my father, Larry Knechtel, in his role as a session bassist with The Wrecking Crew.

So, here we go, from my own perspective as a child and as a bassist...

Dad was primarily known for his work on piano/keyboards, which was his primary instrument. However, he seemed rather adept at being able quickly assimilate whatever instruments he had available. He was first-chair clarinet in high school... he recorded an entire album playing harmonica ( "Larry Nelson -- The 'In' Harmonica... the label thought his last name was too weird to sell ), and he's known for playing the guitar solo on Bread's 'Guitar Man'. He once rented a tenor sax and within a couple weeks was noodling around on the thing, though his tone was reportedly terrible. My Mom couldn't handle hearing it, she made him return the thing after a month.

Dad played piano in an 'inner city band' in his early teens which featured talented kids from the schools around Los Angeles. There he met Jim Horn and Mike Deasy, the three of them started jamming on rock and roll and before long found themselves playing in club bands and getting noticed. All three of them are now considered 'Wrecking Crew' members. Dad wrote and recorded 'Pigeon Toed' when he was 16, it became a local hit on the R&B stations and he got a royalty check for over $600. Both Dad and Jim got recruited into Duane Eddy's band in the late 50's and spent a while living in Tuscon, AZ where they played in various club bands and took jobs as extras in low-budget western films ('Thunder of Drums' being the most notable). Dad returned to L.A. when he met my Mom but still recorded with Duane into the early 60's.

Sometime shortly after I was born (1962?), Dad was working days at my grandfather's grocery store and 6 nights a week in clubs to make ends meet... but at some point there was a dry spell where nobody seemed to need a pianist. My Mom confronted Dad and told him he had to get work somehow. So Dad borrowed a Fender bass from Duane Eddy and immediately started taking gigs as a bassist. I don't know if he had any prior exposure at all... but it saved the day and he was sought after.

Dad was touring with Kip Tyler and the Flips when he got a call from Steve Douglas asking if he could do a recording session on piano. Dad understood the opportunity, quit the band, and promptly showed up for the session. It was the beginning of his session career. Through the early 60s there were more sessions and Dad realized he didn't have the formal training he needed to deal with them, so he hired the best piano teacher he could find (not sure who she was but she cost $25/hr) and woodshedded intensely for several years. He continued to play club gigs as a bassist, often backing Johnny Rivers at the Whisky-A-Go-Go. He also did start getting some session work as a bassist.

The pivotal moment for Dad the bassist was the TV show 'Shindig'. The first-call guy for the job was Lyle Ritz... but the producers of the show didn't think Lyle was photogenic enough and passed on him. Lyle was a Wrecking Crew member and a gracious guy... He recommended Dad for the bass seat and even gave Dad a few lessons. Dad must've paid attention... link below is a clip of him playing upright behind Aretha Franklin... I had no idea he could do this. Another clip -- in this one he's dancing around behind Howlin' Wolf with the Rolling Stones soaking it up. I can't remember what time the show aired but Mom let me stay up late those nights to watch Dad on TV, I was like 5-6 at the time.

Aretha Franklin

Howlin' Wolf

The visibility of Shindig opened up new doors for session work, I think Dad was getting more calls for bass than keyboards for several years. Some might have considered him a competitor to Carol Kaye and Joe Osborn... but in truth there was plenty of work to go around and Dad played mostly fingerstyle with a funky R&B vibe which was different from Carol or Joe's approach. Towards the end of the 60's, the Wrecking Crew was firmly entrenched and the majority of Dad's calls had shifted back to keyboards for the most lucrative sessions. But there was still plenty of 'show biz' work -- Hanna-Barbera, The Partridge Family, The Monkees, etc, where any given day Dad might be supplying sounds for Danny Bonnaducci's bass or Susan Dey's keyboards, just depended on who got the call and on what. Dad had an answering service booking his sessions, he was doing 3 sessions a day most days, with the last one generally reserved for those projects which had no firm arrangements and relied on the players to invent parts, etc. They would often last well into the AM... I rarely saw my Dad during the week in those years, he'd still be in bed when I went off to school.

The trio of Hal Blaine, Joe Osborn, and Dad became the primary backbone of many pop records in the 1969-1972 period. They accompanied Simon and Garfunkel for 3 nights at Carnegie Hall, I got to go along for that. Joe had a recording studio in his garage, he had his own label, 'Magic Lamp' records. Dad spent a good amount of time there and there were some oddball 45's that emerged featuring various songs they'd written. Joe had met Karen Carpenter somehow and started using her as a drummer and background vocalist. I was sometimes killing time in Joe's back yard while all this was going on, playing with Joe's daughter who was my age (sorry, her first name escapes me now).

As far as recording credits go, I leave all that to others to sort out. All I know is what I witnessed and things Dad told me later. Union contracts often settle debates as to who did what, but they only reflect who got paid for the session. Carol Kaye later laid claim to 'Mr Tambourine Man' by the Byrds... when challenged by others who said Dad did the session, Carol's response was something to the effect of '...well, Larry didn't play with a pick...'. I think Roger McGuinne finally emailed her a copy of the session contract showing Dad as the bassist and the subject was dropped. On the other end, Dad told me that Brian Wilson had him stay late after a session and asked Dad to track bass on 'Help Me Rhonda'. I don't know if they recorded over Carol's part (it's not like they had 24 tracks back then)... or which part ultimately made it on the record, but Dad was confident it's his. But the contract would likely show Carol. A similar instance was 'Mrs Robinson' by Simon and Garfunkel, Dad said he was the bassist on that one though Joe was on the other tracks on that album. Dad told me it was he who suggested to Paul the climbing guitar lick during the vamp, I think Dad showed it to him on bass.

Dad's main bass was a '57 sunburst Fender Precision up until 1968, when it was stolen along with Dad's car one night during a session, Dad had left it locked in the trunk. He replaced it with a '58 sunburst which (since refinished) is what is now on display at the MHOF museum in Nashville (I'll post a separate thread about Dad's equipment). Dad played mostly fingerstyle, but would play with a pick if the producer asked him to. There were felt bass picks lying around the house when I was a kid. When I studied at North Texas State in the early 80's I landed a job as sound man for the jazz department, mostly working with the One O'Clock band. The guy who hired me was the assistant director of the department, Bobby Knight, who had played bass trombone on many Wrecking Crew sessions. He told me his most vivid memory of Dad was him sitting a the piano with a bass pick stuck to his forehead during a Nancy Sinatra session.

Around 1972, Dad joined the group 'Bread'... which is credited with basically inventing 'Soft Rock', though that was more characteristic of David Gate's songs than the band as a whole. It was a lucrative opportunity but had its demands and Dad was less available for session work going forward. Dad did serve as Bread's main bassist, particularly in live shows, but other members would take the bass seat at times, which permitted Dad to play keyboards some.

The early 70's saw then influx of new blood into the L.A. recording scene. The future members of Toto were sometimes hanging with Dad in his studio behind our house or sitting in control rooms during sessions, learning everything they could about the business. Other very capable players were making inroads... Dad had zero formal training on bass and could see the writing on the wall. In his words, 'When Lee Sklar showed up, I felt like I had to put the bass down...'. Which he didn't exactly do, but Dad and Lee were good friends and Dad mostly focused on keyboards after that. Dad still got some sessions though, and he played bass on the projects he produced, most notably 'Chevy Van' by Sammy Johns.

By this time we had moved from L.A. to raise cattle in a wild corner of western Washington under the shadow of Mt Baker, Dad had figured his recording career had run its course and following a personal battle with cancer had decided he wanted to chase other dreams. He remained a member of Bread and still got a few session calls and production projects.

By the late 70's, Bread had hit the skids with the two principal members locked in an acrimonious lawsuit which dragged on for years and resulted in the breakup of the band and an injunction being issued against all royalty payments. There was no more touring. Dad's bass sat in our studio, I would goof around on it jamming with my friends. David Gates ended up borrowing the bass for a while. When I was in Texas I was studying saxophone, but I had an old Univox bass (Hoffner copy) that Dad had given me in my grade school days and I found myself getting tapped for bass gigs by drummers I knew in school. Then I joined a cover rock band doing the roadhouse circuit down there and begged Dad to send me his bass, the Univox wasn't cutting it. Dad had David Gates ship it down to me, the bass was pretty much mine for the next 12 years until Dad finally made me give it back and go buy my own bass.

Apart from a couple corporate gigs backing David Gates, Dad didn't do any more work on bass. Dad and I spent about 20 years playing together in bands and doing sessions for local projects, I was generally the bassist in those lineups.

A high point for me occurred during a album session ('Heavy Wood') for a friend, Nolan Murray, who is a fiddle/mandolin player. Nolan had spent some time in Branson as Loretta Lynn's musical director, was roommates there with Bob Babbitt, and was good friends with John Cowan (Newgrass Revival/Doobie Bros). Nolan was also a member of a popular Canadian folk group, "The Tiller's Folly". So Nolan had all his friends in on the session... In all, there were 5 of us bassists in there, though John only provided vocals and Dad only played keys. Bob Babbitt, myself, and Laurence Knight (from Tiller's) provided bass tracks. To top it all off, the notable Philly producer Thom Bell dropped in on the session as he'd recently moved to the area. It was amazing we got anything done, the stories just kept flowing. Fortunately the studio had extended Nolan a generously low hourly rate.

Dad's career got a reboot around 2005... Rick Rubin was doing retreads on artists such as Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond... Rick's preferred keyboardist was Benmont Tench ( Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers )... Benmont couldn't do the Neil Diamond session for 'Kentucky Woman' because he was already booked, so he said 'Call Larry Knechtel, he played on the original...'. Dad did the session, which led to him working with the Dixie Chix on their last album and subsequent tour. Dad and I had a recording project in work when he passed away in 2009, the tunes on the two memorial videos on YouTube are tracks from those sessions. The project remains incomplete, I may just post the basic tracks someday.

I will say that even as a keyboardist, Dad was one hell of a bass player... he could jam all night playing walking left-hand bass on a MiniMoog or whatever, it was like there was a separate guy living in his left arm. It took some adjustment for he and I to work together with me as a bassist, it was hard for us to stay out of each other's way at times. Dad told me apologetically, 'Sorry, I just like my bass lines'. I liked his bass lines too, there's still much I could learn from them.

Lonnie

Memorial #1
Memorial #2
Larry Knechtel - Grammy award winner and legendary member of The Wrecking Crew and Bread

There was interest expressed in hearing from me about my father, Larry Knechtel, in his role as a session bassist with The Wrecking Crew.

So, here we go, from my own perspective as a child and as a bassist...

Dad was primarily known for his work on piano/keyboards, which was his primary instrument. However, he seemed rather adept at being able quickly assimilate whatever instruments he had available. He was first-chair clarinet in high school... he recorded an entire album playing harmonica ( "Larry Nelson -- The 'In' Harmonica... the label thought his last name was too weird to sell ), and he's known for playing the guitar solo on Bread's 'Guitar Man'. He once rented a tenor sax and within a couple weeks was noodling around on the thing, though his tone was reportedly terrible. My Mom couldn't handle hearing it, she made him return the thing after a month.

Dad played piano in an 'inner city band' in his early teens which featured talented kids from the schools around Los Angeles. There he met Jim Horn and Mike Deasy, the three of them started jamming on rock and roll and before long found themselves playing in club bands and getting noticed. All three of them are now considered 'Wrecking Crew' members. Dad wrote and recorded 'Pigeon Toed' when he was 16, it became a local hit on the R&B stations and he got a royalty check for over $600. Both Dad and Jim got recruited into Duane Eddy's band in the late 50's and spent a while living in Tuscon, AZ where they played in various club bands and took jobs as extras in low-budget western films ('Thunder of Drums' being the most notable). Dad returned to L.A. when he met my Mom but still recorded with Duane into the early 60's.

Sometime shortly after I was born (1962?), Dad was working days at my grandfather's grocery store and 6 nights a week in clubs to make ends meet... but at some point there was a dry spell where nobody seemed to need a pianist. My Mom confronted Dad and told him he had to get work somehow. So Dad borrowed a Fender bass from Duane Eddy and immediately started taking gigs as a bassist. I don't know if he had any prior exposure at all... but it saved the day and he was sought after.

Dad was touring with Kip Tyler and the Flips when he got a call from Steve Douglas asking if he could do a recording session on piano. Dad understood the opportunity, quit the band, and promptly showed up for the session. It was the beginning of his session career. Through the early 60s there were more sessions and Dad realized he didn't have the formal training he needed to deal with them, so he hired the best piano teacher he could find (not sure who she was but she cost $25/hr) and woodshedded intensely for several years. He continued to play club gigs as a bassist, often backing Johnny Rivers at the Whisky-A-Go-Go. He also did start getting some session work as a bassist.

The pivotal moment for Dad the bassist was the TV show 'Shindig'. The first-call guy for the job was Lyle Ritz... but the producers of the show didn't think Lyle was photogenic enough and passed on him. Lyle was a Wrecking Crew member and a gracious guy... He recommended Dad for the bass seat and even gave Dad a few lessons. Dad must've paid attention... link below is a clip of him playing upright behind Aretha Franklin... I had no idea he could do this. Another clip -- in this one he's dancing around behind Howlin' Wolf with the Rolling Stones soaking it up. I can't remember what time the show aired but Mom let me stay up late those nights to watch Dad on TV, I was like 5-6 at the time.

Aretha Franklin

Howlin' Wolf

The visibility of Shindig opened up new doors for session work, I think Dad was getting more calls for bass than keyboards for several years. Some might have considered him a competitor to Carol Kaye and Joe Osborn... but in truth there was plenty of work to go around and Dad played mostly fingerstyle with a funky R&B vibe which was different from Carol or Joe's approach. Towards the end of the 60's, the Wrecking Crew was firmly entrenched and the majority of Dad's calls had shifted back to keyboards for the most lucrative sessions. But there was still plenty of 'show biz' work -- Hanna-Barbera, The Partridge Family, The Monkees, etc, where any given day Dad might be supplying sounds for Danny Bonnaducci's bass or Susan Dey's keyboards, just depended on who got the call and on what. Dad had an answering service booking his sessions, he was doing 3 sessions a day most days, with the last one generally reserved for those projects which had no firm arrangements and relied on the players to invent parts, etc. They would often last well into the AM... I rarely saw my Dad during the week in those years, he'd still be in bed when I went off to school.

The trio of Hal Blaine, Joe Osborn, and Dad became the primary backbone of many pop records in the 1969-1972 period. They accompanied Simon and Garfunkel for 3 nights at Carnegie Hall, I got to go along for that. Joe had a recording studio in his garage, he had his own label, 'Magic Lamp' records. Dad spent a good amount of time there and there were some oddball 45's that emerged featuring various songs they'd written. Joe had met Karen Carpenter somehow and started using her as a drummer and background vocalist. I was sometimes killing time in Joe's back yard while all this was going on, playing with Joe's daughter who was my age (sorry, her first name escapes me now).

As far as recording credits go, I leave all that to others to sort out. All I know is what I witnessed and things Dad told me later. Union contracts often settle debates as to who did what, but they only reflect who got paid for the session. Carol Kaye later laid claim to 'Mr Tambourine Man' by the Byrds... when challenged by others who said Dad did the session, Carol's response was something to the effect of '...well, Larry didn't play with a pick...'. I think Roger McGuinne finally emailed her a copy of the session contract showing Dad as the bassist and the subject was dropped. On the other end, Dad told me that Brian Wilson had him stay late after a session and asked Dad to track bass on 'Help Me Rhonda'. I don't know if they recorded over Carol's part (it's not like they had 24 tracks back then)... or which part ultimately made it on the record, but Dad was confident it's his. But the contract would likely show Carol. A similar instance was 'Mrs Robinson' by Simon and Garfunkel, Dad said he was the bassist on that one though Joe was on the other tracks on that album. Dad told me it was he who suggested to Paul the climbing guitar lick during the vamp, I think Dad showed it to him on bass.

Dad's main bass was a '57 sunburst Fender Precision up until 1968, when it was stolen along with Dad's car one night during a session, Dad had left it locked in the trunk. He replaced it with a '58 sunburst which (since refinished) is what is now on display at the MHOF museum in Nashville (I'll post a separate thread about Dad's equipment). Dad played mostly fingerstyle, but would play with a pick if the producer asked him to. There were felt bass picks lying around the house when I was a kid. When I studied at North Texas State in the early 80's I landed a job as sound man for the jazz department, mostly working with the One O'Clock band. The guy who hired me was the assistant director of the department, Bobby Knight, who had played bass trombone on many Wrecking Crew sessions. He told me his most vivid memory of Dad was him sitting a the piano with a bass pick stuck to his forehead during a Nancy Sinatra session.

Around 1972, Dad joined the group 'Bread'... which is credited with basically inventing 'Soft Rock', though that was more characteristic of David Gate's songs than the band as a whole. It was a lucrative opportunity but had its demands and Dad was less available for session work going forward. Dad did serve as Bread's main bassist, particularly in live shows, but other members would take the bass seat at times, which permitted Dad to play keyboards some.

The early 70's saw then influx of new blood into the L.A. recording scene. The future members of Toto were sometimes hanging with Dad in his studio behind our house or sitting in control rooms during sessions, learning everything they could about the business. Other very capable players were making inroads... Dad had zero formal training on bass and could see the writing on the wall. In his words, 'When Lee Sklar showed up, I felt like I had to put the bass down...'. Which he didn't exactly do, but Dad and Lee were good friends and Dad mostly focused on keyboards after that. Dad still got some sessions though, and he played bass on the projects he produced, most notably 'Chevy Van' by Sammy Johns.

By this time we had moved from L.A. to raise cattle in a wild corner of western Washington under the shadow of Mt Baker, Dad had figured his recording career had run its course and following a personal battle with cancer had decided he wanted to chase other dreams. He remained a member of Bread and still got a few session calls and production projects.

By the late 70's, Bread had hit the skids with the two principal members locked in an acrimonious lawsuit which dragged on for years and resulted in the breakup of the band and an injunction being issued against all royalty payments. There was no more touring. Dad's bass sat in our studio, I would goof around on it jamming with my friends. David Gates ended up borrowing the bass for a while. When I was in Texas I was studying saxophone, but I had an old Univox bass (Hoffner copy) that Dad had given me in my grade school days and I found myself getting tapped for bass gigs by drummers I knew in school. Then I joined a cover rock band doing the roadhouse circuit down there and begged Dad to send me his bass, the Univox wasn't cutting it. Dad had David Gates ship it down to me, the bass was pretty much mine for the next 12 years until Dad finally made me give it back and go buy my own bass.

Apart from a couple corporate gigs backing David Gates, Dad didn't do any more work on bass. Dad and I spent about 20 years playing together in bands and doing sessions for local projects, I was generally the bassist in those lineups.

A high point for me occurred during a album session ('Heavy Wood') for a friend, Nolan Murray, who is a fiddle/mandolin player. Nolan had spent some time in Branson as Loretta Lynn's musical director, was roommates there with Bob Babbitt, and was good friends with John Cowan (Newgrass Revival/Doobie Bros). Nolan was also a member of a popular Canadian folk group, "The Tiller's Folly". So Nolan had all his friends in on the session... In all, there were 5 of us bassists in there, though John only provided vocals and Dad only played keys. Bob Babbitt, myself, and Laurence Knight (from Tiller's) provided bass tracks. To top it all off, the notable Philly producer Thom Bell dropped in on the session as he'd recently moved to the area. It was amazing we got anything done, the stories just kept flowing. Fortunately the studio had extended Nolan a generously low hourly rate.

Dad's career got a reboot around 2005... Rick Rubin was doing retreads on artists such as Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond... Rick's preferred keyboardist was Benmont Tench ( Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers )... Benmont couldn't do the Neil Diamond session for 'Kentucky Woman' because he was already booked, so he said 'Call Larry Knechtel, he played on the original...'. Dad did the session, which led to him working with the Dixie Chix on their last album and subsequent tour. Dad and I had a recording project in work when he passed away in 2009, the tunes on the two memorial videos on YouTube are tracks from those sessions. The project remains incomplete, I may just post the basic tracks someday.

I will say that even as a keyboardist, Dad was one hell of a bass player... he could jam all night playing walking left-hand bass on a MiniMoog or whatever, it was like there was a separate guy living in his left arm. It took some adjustment for he and I to work together with me as a bassist, it was hard for us to stay out of each other's way at times. Dad told me apologetically, 'Sorry, I just like my bass lines'. I liked his bass lines too, there's still much I could learn from them.

Lonnie

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Larry Knechtel - Grammy award winner and legendary member of The Wrecking Crew and Bread
 
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There was interest expressed in hearing from me about my father, Larry Knechtel, in his role as a session bassist with The Wrecking Crew.

So, here we go, from my own perspective as a child and as a bassist...

Dad was primarily known for his work on piano/keyboards, which was his primary instrument. However, he seemed rather adept at being able quickly assimilate whatever instruments he had available. He was first-chair clarinet in high school... he recorded an entire album playing harmonica ( "Larry Nelson -- The 'In' Harmonica... the label thought his last name was too weird to sell ), and he's known for playing the guitar solo on Bread's 'Guitar Man'. He once rented a tenor sax and within a couple weeks was noodling around on the thing, though his tone was reportedly terrible. My Mom couldn't handle hearing it, she made him return the thing after a month.

Dad played piano in an 'inner city band' in his early teens which featured talented kids from the schools around Los Angeles. There he met Jim Horn and Mike Deasy, the three of them started jamming on rock and roll and before long found themselves playing in club bands and getting noticed. All three of them are now considered 'Wrecking Crew' members. Dad wrote and recorded 'Pigeon Toed' when he was 16, it became a local hit on the R&B stations and he got a royalty check for over $600. Both Dad and Jim got recruited into Duane Eddy's band in the late 50's and spent a while living in Tuscon, AZ where they played in various club bands and took jobs as extras in low-budget western films ('Thunder of Drums' being the most notable). Dad returned to L.A. when he met my Mom but still recorded with Duane into the early 60's.

Sometime shortly after I was born (1962?), Dad was working days at my grandfather's grocery store and 6 nights a week in clubs to make ends meet... but at some point there was a dry spell where nobody seemed to need a pianist. My Mom confronted Dad and told him he had to get work somehow. So Dad borrowed a Fender bass from Duane Eddy and immediately started taking gigs as a bassist. I don't know if he had any prior exposure at all... but it saved the day and he was sought after.

Dad was touring with Kip Tyler and the Flips when he got a call from Steve Douglas asking if he could do a recording session on piano. Dad understood the opportunity, quit the band, and promptly showed up for the session. It was the beginning of his session career. Through the early 60s there were more sessions and Dad realized he didn't have the formal training he needed to deal with them, so he hired the best piano teacher he could find (not sure who she was but she cost $25/hr) and woodshedded intensely for several years. He continued to play club gigs as a bassist, often backing Johnny Rivers at the Whisky-A-Go-Go. He also did start getting some session work as a bassist.

The pivotal moment for Dad the bassist was the TV show 'Shindig'. The first-call guy for the job was Lyle Ritz... but the producers of the show didn't think Lyle was photogenic enough and passed on him. Lyle was a Wrecking Crew member and a gracious guy... He recommended Dad for the bass seat and even gave Dad a few lessons. Dad must've paid attention... link below is a clip of him playing upright behind Aretha Franklin... I had no idea he could do this. Another clip -- in this one he's dancing around behind Howlin' Wolf with the Rolling Stones soaking it up. I can't remember what time the show aired but Mom let me stay up late those nights to watch Dad on TV, I was like 5-6 at the time.

Aretha Franklin

Howlin' Wolf

The visibility of Shindig opened up new doors for session work, I think Dad was getting more calls for bass than keyboards for several years. Some might have considered him a competitor to Carol Kaye and Joe Osborn... but in truth there was plenty of work to go around and Dad played mostly fingerstyle with a funky R&B vibe which was different from Carol or Joe's approach. Towards the end of the 60's, the Wrecking Crew was firmly entrenched and the majority of Dad's calls had shifted back to keyboards for the most lucrative sessions. But there was still plenty of 'show biz' work -- Hanna-Barbera, The Partridge Family, The Monkees, etc, where any given day Dad might be supplying sounds for Danny Bonnaducci's bass or Susan Dey's keyboards, just depended on who got the call and on what. Dad had an answering service booking his sessions, he was doing 3 sessions a day most days, with the last one generally reserved for those projects which had no firm arrangements and relied on the players to invent parts, etc. They would often last well into the AM... I rarely saw my Dad during the week in those years, he'd still be in bed when I went off to school.

The trio of Hal Blaine, Joe Osborn, and Dad became the primary backbone of many pop records in the 1969-1972 period. They accompanied Simon and Garfunkel for 3 nights at Carnegie Hall, I got to go along for that. Joe had a recording studio in his garage, he had his own label, 'Magic Lamp' records. Dad spent a good amount of time there and there were some oddball 45's that emerged featuring various songs they'd written. Joe had met Karen Carpenter somehow and started using her as a drummer and background vocalist. I was sometimes killing time in Joe's back yard while all this was going on, playing with Joe's daughter who was my age (sorry, her first name escapes me now).

As far as recording credits go, I leave all that to others to sort out. All I know is what I witnessed and things Dad told me later. Union contracts often settle debates as to who did what, but they only reflect who got paid for the session. Carol Kaye later laid claim to 'Mr Tambourine Man' by the Byrds... when challenged by others who said Dad did the session, Carol's response was something to the effect of '...well, Larry didn't play with a pick...'. I think Roger McGuinne finally emailed her a copy of the session contract showing Dad as the bassist and the subject was dropped. On the other end, Dad told me that Brian Wilson had him stay late after a session and asked Dad to track bass on 'Help Me Rhonda'. I don't know if they recorded over Carol's part (it's not like they had 24 tracks back then)... or which part ultimately made it on the record, but Dad was confident it's his. But the contract would likely show Carol. A similar instance was 'Mrs Robinson' by Simon and Garfunkel, Dad said he was the bassist on that one though Joe was on the other tracks on that album. Dad told me it was he who suggested to Paul the climbing guitar lick during the vamp, I think Dad showed it to him on bass.

Dad's main bass was a '57 sunburst Fender Precision up until 1968, when it was stolen along with Dad's car one night during a session, Dad had left it locked in the trunk. He replaced it with a '58 sunburst which (since refinished) is what is now on display at the MHOF museum in Nashville (I'll post a separate thread about Dad's equipment). Dad played mostly fingerstyle, but would play with a pick if the producer asked him to. There were felt bass picks lying around the house when I was a kid. When I studied at North Texas State in the early 80's I landed a job as sound man for the jazz department, mostly working with the One O'Clock band. The guy who hired me was the assistant director of the department, Bobby Knight, who had played bass trombone on many Wrecking Crew sessions. He told me his most vivid memory of Dad was him sitting a the piano with a bass pick stuck to his forehead during a Nancy Sinatra session.

Around 1972, Dad joined the group 'Bread'... which is credited with basically inventing 'Soft Rock', though that was more characteristic of David Gate's songs than the band as a whole. It was a lucrative opportunity but had its demands and Dad was less available for session work going forward. Dad did serve as Bread's main bassist, particularly in live shows, but other members would take the bass seat at times, which permitted Dad to play keyboards some.

The early 70's saw then influx of new blood into the L.A. recording scene. The future members of Toto were sometimes hanging with Dad in his studio behind our house or sitting in control rooms during sessions, learning everything they could about the business. Other very capable players were making inroads... Dad had zero formal training on bass and could see the writing on the wall. In his words, 'When Lee Sklar showed up, I felt like I had to put the bass down...'. Which he didn't exactly do, but Dad and Lee were good friends and Dad mostly focused on keyboards after that. Dad still got some sessions though, and he played bass on the projects he produced, most notably 'Chevy Van' by Sammy Johns.

By this time we had moved from L.A. to raise cattle in a wild corner of western Washington under the shadow of Mt Baker, Dad had figured his recording career had run its course and following a personal battle with cancer had decided he wanted to chase other dreams. He remained a member of Bread and still got a few session calls and production projects.

By the late 70's, Bread had hit the skids with the two principal members locked in an acrimonious lawsuit which dragged on for years and resulted in the breakup of the band and an injunction being issued against all royalty payments. There was no more touring. Dad's bass sat in our studio, I would goof around on it jamming with my friends. David Gates ended up borrowing the bass for a while. When I was in Texas I was studying saxophone, but I had an old Univox bass (Hoffner copy) that Dad had given me in my grade school days and I found myself getting tapped for bass gigs by drummers I knew in school. Then I joined a cover rock band doing the roadhouse circuit down there and begged Dad to send me his bass, the Univox wasn't cutting it. Dad had David Gates ship it down to me, the bass was pretty much mine for the next 12 years until Dad finally made me give it back and go buy my own bass.

Apart from a couple corporate gigs backing David Gates, Dad didn't do any more work on bass. Dad and I spent about 20 years playing together in bands and doing sessions for local projects, I was generally the bassist in those lineups.

A high point for me occurred during a album session ('Heavy Wood') for a friend, Nolan Murray, who is a fiddle/mandolin player. Nolan had spent some time in Branson as Loretta Lynn's musical director, was roommates there with Bob Babbitt, and was good friends with John Cowan (Newgrass Revival/Doobie Bros). Nolan was also a member of a popular Canadian folk group, "The Tiller's Folly". So Nolan had all his friends in on the session... In all, there were 5 of us bassists in there, though John only provided vocals and Dad only played keys. Bob Babbitt, myself, and Laurence Knight (from Tiller's) provided bass tracks. To top it all off, the notable Philly producer Thom Bell dropped in on the session as he'd recently moved to the area. It was amazing we got anything done, the stories just kept flowing. Fortunately the studio had extended Nolan a generously low hourly rate.

Dad's career got a reboot around 2005... Rick Rubin was doing retreads on artists such as Johnny Cash and Neil Diamond... Rick's preferred keyboardist was Benmont Tench ( Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers )... Benmont couldn't do the Neil Diamond session for 'Kentucky Woman' because he was already booked, so he said 'Call Larry Knechtel, he played on the original...'. Dad did the session, which led to him working with the Dixie Chix on their last album and subsequent tour. Dad and I had a recording project in work when he passed away in 2009, the tunes on the two memorial videos on YouTube are tracks from those sessions. The project remains incomplete, I may just post the basic tracks someday.

I will say that even as a keyboardist, Dad was one hell of a bass player... he could jam all night playing walking left-hand bass on a MiniMoog or whatever, it was like there was a separate guy living in his left arm. It took some adjustment for he and I to work together with me as a bassist, it was hard for us to stay out of each other's way at times. Dad told me apologetically, 'Sorry, I just like my bass lines'. I liked his bass lines too, there's still much I could learn from them.

Lonnie

Memorial #1
Memorial #2
Larry Knechtel - Grammy award winner and legendary member of The Wrecking Crew and Bread


Lonnie, there ought to be a "love" button on here...I'm deeply touched by your thread...
I know I have much of your Dad's work (including Jim Price's LPs?) in my record collection (3000+ LPS, 2000+ 45s, 2000+ CDs...). There's a list of his major work on Wikipedia...
Thank you for sharing you and your Dad's musical life....
Gotta ask...what was it like as a young kid being outside while your Dad was "at work"? I know my kids were bored silly when I took them along to practice...
 
Thank you so much! So it was your dad and not Gene Clark who slid up the A string from D to A on Mr. Tambourine Man! I was 12 years old when I heard that. It was so cool. I don’t know what a bass guitar was or how that sliding sound was made. But I found out and became a bass player because of him. He changed my life, God bless.
Chris Hillman was the Byrds’ bassist; although he was a mandolin prodigy, he was new to the bass at the time, in fact the only other seasoned instrumentalist in the band was Roger McGuinn. The producer of that first single, Terry Melcher(Doris Day’s son)thought it would be more expedient to bring in some studio pros to back McGuinn. Clark, who was the principal songwriter for their other material, occasionally played acoustic guitar.