I would vote for the Ampeg 610. I very much prefer the was that cab is voiced over the 810. It is ported, and has a tweet. Try that one out if you can.
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
Last minute tour! Need last minute rig!
- Thread starter trainsarewonder
- Start date
Congratulation on the gigs.
First do not ,I repeat DO NOT depend on the P.A. for your sound
You are the opening act ,meaning some days you'll be lucky to get a sound check ,some are going to be setup fast and go..
Take good care of the 2 sound engineers (FOH and monitor).
If you are partial to GK ,i would recommend the 8X10 Neo GK
Sealed cabinet with horn and WHEELS rated 1600 Watts.
It does a grab job on all my gigs and only 110 Lbs Rocks
Francois
First do not ,I repeat DO NOT depend on the P.A. for your sound
You are the opening act ,meaning some days you'll be lucky to get a sound check ,some are going to be setup fast and go..
Take good care of the 2 sound engineers (FOH and monitor).
If you are partial to GK ,i would recommend the 8X10 Neo GK
Sealed cabinet with horn and WHEELS rated 1600 Watts.
It does a grab job on all my gigs and only 110 Lbs Rocks
Francois
Thanks for the good words.
I've seen that cab before, but since I'm in a money pit and have to rely on the good faith of my local music shop owner, I'm limited to the cabs I listed.
I would get a second 4x10. I know you said the existing 4x10 isn't road worthy but unless it has an intermittent short or one of the drivers is falling out of its mount, it doesn't matter - cosmetics aren't important to the sound. You're gonna be on the road - unless you get a road case for the new cab, its gonna have its own cosmetic battle scars by the time you get home.
I agree with the other posters that a single 410 should be plenty if there's PA support, and two 410s should cover most venues if the PA doesn't have room for you.
I agree with the other posters that a single 410 should be plenty if there's PA support, and two 410s should cover most venues if the PA doesn't have room for you.
This cab is in THAT bad of condition. Also, it's recently taken a tumble and two of the magnets fell off the drivers. I glued them back on and it sounds fine, I just can't trust this thing.
Anyone want to buy a SVT 410he cab in great condition, never abused?............................Just kidding.
Then you would be hard pressed to beat the Berg 610. It will absolutley sound great with the SVT-7Pro.
Many will argue that 2 410s is much more portable, but having owned a bigger cab in the past they really aren't a bad schelp with the "built-in" dolly.
+1 on not depending on the PA.
Go with the Berg. If the PA support works great, then you can let it have an easy night. If you find yourself in a hairy situation with the PA, you can push that baby hard and it will give you the tone you are looking for in spades.
Well, typically if I'm having problems with PA support, so is the rest of my band. If I sound good and they don't, it doesn't matter.
How is the NV610 volume wise compared to an 810?
I would love to throw this thing in a built in road case and make it my for life touring rig.
I'm a GK guy but if you can get a good deal on the Berg I would get it! It's a high end $1400 cabinet that will probably stand up better to the abuse of touring. The MBE cabinets are nice cabinets but not as solid IMO as the GK Neo series.
You aren't going to notice much of a difference, if at all, IMO. Don't know the physics of it all. Sure more drivers gives you more volume, but are you going to need the extra at that point? That NV610 can flatline baby kittens from 6 blocks away.
Seriously, look it up. It's on YouTube
Joking aside,
This tells it all. Quality wise, the MBE cabs are not GKs finest offering. If you are buying for "life", buy the best quality product you can. GK makes very fine products, but IMHO Berg makes some of the absolute best cabs out there.
Filling out your location would help. I don't think you're limited to your one local shop. The nearest town to you of any size that touring acts stop at, even small/medium size touring acts...small/medium size cities will have someplace that rents PA and backline equipment. They may not have much to choose from but you can be assured they will have an Ampeg 810 rig....even if they only have one rig available, it will be that one.
Search out a rental company. I can almost assure you there will be one within an hours drive...two at the most, unless you're really out in the sticks.
Search out a rental company. I can almost assure you there will be one within an hours drive...two at the most, unless you're really out in the sticks.
I played with a single 4x10 but had to stand far enough away from it to really hear myself. I'm 6'5" so standing right in front of my cab just fluffed my pants around but I'd lose my sound amongst the drums and guitars. If I was in dude's shoes I'd get the Ampeg 8x10, you won't have to crank to insane volumes to hear yourself if its just for your own monitoring purposes, and as many have said, if you don't get PA support you'll be happy you have it. I used to play alot of places where only guitars/vox/kick drum got hooked to the PA. Stupid but whatever, at least I got to control my own volume with a trusted "soundguy" ie. friend in the center of the crowd to thumbs up or thumbs down my volume for me.
The best sounding Ampeg 810 is a Bergantino NV610.
Volume-wise, the Berg can get louder. But, in whatever venue you play, you will probably never be able to crank it. It'll either be too loud and your sound man will tell you to turn down, OR in the case of no PA, it'll overpower the room.
The NV610 with it's tilt-and-roll heavy-duty casters, is a dream to move. It's 98lbs, looks and sounds great, easy to get into a truck or on a stage, and sounds better than any Ampeg 810 I've heard.
No brainer for me if you want that sealed cab sound and a one-cabinet solution that will work for any size stage and PA situation you might face.
Around here it's pretty cheap and a lot of guys get who don't have a lot of money all in one shot end up getting decent gear that way. After about a years time, the rental payments add up to the equipment value and they give you the option of just owning it rather than returning it.
I don't know where the OP is but it's something he needs to at least look into and price out. A monthly rental usually isn't all that much more than a weekly. I know someplace out in the boonies doesn't have the resources we do here, but he should at least check it out.
+1,000 I debated pointing this out. The Berg does a better Ampeg impression than the Ampeg.
