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"Lawsuit" and "pre-lawsuit" instruments do not exist

#81
Clark W said:
Guess dude never heard about the Squier Stagemaster. The name Stagemaster was trademarked and used by Kramer. Then Fender decided to use the same name on a line of Squiers. Kramer took issue with that, threatened a lawsuit, some say it was actually filed. But Kramer and Fender came to an agreement with Fender dropping the name and opting to use the name "Showmaster" instead. Details of the settlement have never been made public to my knowledge.
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This just in from AI News!....

Kramer announces the debut of two new guitar models, the "Stagecaster" and the "Showcaster".
 
#82
Iridescentone said:
This just in from AI News!....

Kramer announces the debut of two new guitar models, the "Stagecaster" and the "Showcaster".
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AI had nothing to do with my post or Kramer and Fender in the late 80s or early 90s, or the misuse by Fender of Kramer's name "Stagemaster", or Fender reverting to "Showmaster" because of it. So what's your point?
 
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#83
Clark W said:
AI had nothing to do with my post. So what's your point?
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It's a joke, nothing to do with your post except that it would be hilarious if Kramer responded to Fender's threats by copping Fender's famous "caster" guitars into their new model names. Stagecaster, Showcaster.

Not funny? C'mon, it's a little funny. No?

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Iridescentone said:
It's a joke, nothing to do with your post except that it would be hilarious if Kramer responded to Fender's threats by copping Fender's famous "caster" guitars into their new model names. Stagecaster, Showcaster.

Not funny? C'mon, it's a little funny. No?

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I'm a little slow some times. I didn't catch the caster part 🤣
But yeah you're right it would be funny, would really be funny now since Gibson owns Kramer
 
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micguy said:
Leo decided to make his hum cancelling pickup look different by putting it in two housings - maybe Gibson will let it slide if it looks different. It worked. Would it have stood up to the challenge if Gibson sued? That's a legal....grey area.
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So I guess the split-coil P-bass was the original “lawsuit guitar.” Thread solved! :roflmao:

I’ll show myself out, thanks…
 
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Iridescentone said:
It's a joke, nothing to do with your post except that it would be hilarious if Kramer responded to Fender's threats by copping Fender's famous "caster" guitars into their new model names. Stagecaster, Showcaster.

Not funny? C'mon, it's a little funny. No?

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Even weirder is that Gretch and Fender were in opposition as they apparently already had a guitar named the “Broadkaster” Fender then renamed it the “Telecaster” thus proving there is nothing new under the sun.
 
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JTNuney said:
So I guess the split-coil P-bass was the original “lawsuit guitar.” Thread solved! :roflmao:

I’ll show myself out, thanks…
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Ric Vice said:
opposition as they apparently already had a guitar named the “Broadkaster” Fender then renamed it the “Telecaster” thus proving there is nothing new under the sun.
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Yes, the Telecaster was the first (that I know of) lawsuit guitar, but Gretsch (who was the one with the name that was being almost copied) was using the name for a drumset. They still sell Broadkaster drumsets today.

Thus, the first Teles are know as "Nocasters", because Let had guitars to sell, and didn't have model labels to put on them.
 
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el murdoque said:
C'mon! It's a ten minute video of a guy talking. No funny cats anywhere. Who has the stamina to sit through this, especially when the OP kinda sums it up and voices a strong opinion?
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Let me blow your mind. YouTube let's you watch videos at 2x speed.

Nah, I know, I just find it funny that first reply is all "trust AI and not some yappin' YouTube dingus," but the guy in the video brings up the case he posted about.
 

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