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LIL' WAYNE

#101
Timbo said:


Saul William's section on the song Release on Blackalicious' CD Blazing Arrow. That is an amazing hip hop CD and the linked video is a beautiful piece of lyricism.
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One of my favorite albums. I went to high school with Tim (Gift of Gab) and am big into most of the old Quannum crew: Lateef, Lyrics Born, DJ Shadow and Blackalicious. I like Gil Scott Heron's track, "First in Flight" a lot too. I am a huge hip-hop fan, in fact I'm listening to Rakim right now.

Nevertheless, there are aspects of some mainstream hip-hop that I have a hard time stomaching. My ex-fiance's father used (with equal parts embarrassment and disdain) the phrase "new millennium minstrel show", and I don't think he was that far off.
 
#102
pinkiedabomb said:
I havent read the whole thread, and feel free to flame if you feel necessary, but I think, some of the comments in this thread are bias.

and some of lil wayes songs are actually very intelligent and well thought out.

in fact, lil wayne is my favorite rapper, for his witty metaphores, and rhymes.

and just because youve heard one or two of his raps and arent a fan of those, doesnt mean its all garbage.

the radio never plays good songs, in my expierience, its all just mainstream.

if youd listen to some of his less heard stuff, maybe youd have a different view on him.


but yeah, I just brought a dead thread back to life.

so, whoops. I thought that needed to be said.
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Carrots :ninja:
 
#103
hbarcat said:
Really? What if they're in the business of capitalizing on the glamorization of racism and bigotry, violence against women, abusing dangerous drugs, getting rich by stealing and the virtue of ignorance in general? And what if young impressionable minds latch onto this behavior with nearly religious conviction?

I suppose if these entrepreneurs threw a few spare shekels into the collection bin of some popular charity once a year then a few character "flaws" could be overlooked.

And I suppose it helps if some of the words rhyme.
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Our loving governer of California was in the business of making violent movies (and made quite a bit of coin off of it)...are you going to put him in the same boat as Lil Wayne?

How about cartoons? Dethklok dropped a stage on an entire crowd, killing thousands of cartoon concert goers...they kill Kenny on South Park every episode! So the next time some kid kills his best friend don't blame Lil Wayne, Snoop or any rap stars....BLAME SOUTH PARK!

BTW, have you ever been to a big rap/hip hop artist concert? I bet if you went to a Lil Wayne show that MOST of the people there would be white!
 
#107
Rap/Hip Hop,Like it-love it,tolerate it or hate it...there is no denying it's current market share.
There is big cabbage in that garden.
And if you are a creative artist/musician that has anything against making copious amounts of moolah,please read no farther.

I am a musician,that is open to all genres of sound.
Do I listen to all genres on a continuous basis...no.

Music is a creative art form.
How can limits be imposed on creativity?

And since we are necromancing a meme here...

Visirale said:
Personally, if I could make that kind of money, I'd be doing whatever selling out/dumbing down necessary to do it.
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All one usually has to do is sell their soul...talk about a buyers market!
So Visirale...care to play Deal or no Deal? :p

And the Beatles,were inspired by the Invalid Link Removed

So it's The Marvelettes,The Beatles,The Carpenters and now Lil Wayne.
Of course before all that,there was this whole other bunch of "Bad dudes",that lent some brain cells.

And since this shredding thred,was revived after we all had a chance to catch the last AMA ceremony...I have to ask.
Did anyone catch Kanye West? sez he wants to be Elvis!
But Ne-Yo had a really tight dance ensemble for the closer.
Oh Yes!
 
#108
i admit, some rap is good. we cover a rap song in my band called Move. It's a historical song with a great bass line. But a lot of rap I hear I just personally don't like. But my biggest problem about rap, is that they make these rhymes, it's not nearly as impressive or incredible as actual music will ever be, and most of the artists really dont care about the music at all, they're just focused on the money.
 
#111
Araillac said:
But my biggest problem about rap, is that they make these rhymes, it's not nearly as impressive or incredible as actual music will ever be
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Opinion


and most of the artists really dont care about the music at all, they're just focused on the money.
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Overgeneralisation and in fact, completely wrong.


Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Lil' Wayne, but please don't take him as some kind of representation of all rap music.
 
#113
Vorago said:
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Overgeneralisation and in fact, completely wrong.


Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Lil' Wayne, but please don't take him as some kind of representation of all rap music.
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Well you know, the music industry has practically made him the face of rap now so that's what a lot of people are going to judge rap on. It's like cars. If a car's look doesnt grab a person's attention, they're probably not going to want to look into the details about it.
 

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