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LMII + Avatar B210 ?

ninerfan

ninerfan

May 28, 2006
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North San Diego
#1
I know, I have been searching, but I'm looking for this specific set-up.
Recently we moved out of our lock-out and reformed the band. Now we are doing the hourly thing and it looks like it will be that way for a while. While we had the lockout I got used to playing my SVT-II ---> NV610. Now I'm back to bringing my BA115 and I'm not too happy with it. It's a great little amp, but definately leaves me wanting more.
So I'm considering getting a LMII as a lightweight, portable head as well as a back up. I've been searching looking for a cab to pair with it and think that a Avatar B210 (4 ohm) may be the way to go. I want a small, light, portable, inexpensive cab to pair with the LMII. I definately want a small cab because I have the NV610 that isn't going anywhere. Portable and lightweight for fast and easy load in and out. And inexpensive because, well because inexpensive is good.
Soooooooo, finally to my question. I've read the posts raving about how the LMII can cop a good "clean" SVT tone and I have a Fulltone Bassdrive and a Polish love on the way for a little dirt. Will the Avatar pair well with the LMII? Will it give me a similar tone to my SVT and Berg? Will the 210 leave me wanting more? Any other opinions on this pairing?

Thanks, you guys always give me great advice!
 
#4
It's not a bad setup. I used a 2x10 and 1x12 w/ a LMII for a while but often used the 2x10 on its own. The 1x12 definitey adds more bass to the setup but the 2x10 gives you more full range so you cut through the mix better. I also think that Avatars speakers produce more bottom then most other speakers of the same size so I think you'd be fine with that setup.
 
#5
I don't see how it could sound bad. Definately get the LMII. The avatar has a great return policy if you don't like it. I'm debating the same thing. I amgoing to get a LMII as well. I would like to get the traveler 102P but at 4 ohms its $730. a little pricey for me. The avatars on the other hand are priced very nicely.

Go for it, if you don't like it send it back.
 
#7
ninerfan said:
I know, I have been searching, but I'm looking for this specific set-up.
Recently we moved out of our lock-out and reformed the band. Now we are doing the hourly thing and it looks like it will be that way for a while. While we had the lockout I got used to playing my SVT-II ---> NV610. Now I'm back to bringing my BA115 and I'm not too happy with it. It's a great little amp, but definately leaves me wanting more.
So I'm considering getting a LMII as a lightweight, portable head as well as a back up. I've been searching looking for a cab to pair with it and think that a Avatar B210 (4 ohm) may be the way to go. I want a small, light, portable, inexpensive cab to pair with the LMII. I definately want a small cab because I have the NV610 that isn't going anywhere. Portable and lightweight for fast and easy load in and out. And inexpensive because, well because inexpensive is good.
Soooooooo, finally to my question. I've read the posts raving about how the LMII can cop a good "clean" SVT tone and I have a Fulltone Bassdrive and a Polish love on the way for a little dirt. Will the Avatar pair well with the LMII? Will it give me a similar tone to my SVT and Berg? Will the 210 leave me wanting more? Any other opinions on this pairing?

Thanks, you guys always give me great advice!
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All I can say is that for the budget conscious (aren't we all in these times) Avatar cabs pair up well with any head.

I don't know about how they stack up against your SVT or Berg since I have no experience with those.

I've used an Avatar B210NEO (8ohm) with GK700RBII, LMII, NeoPak3.5, Fender Bassman (all tube), Ashdown Mag300, SWR Baby Blue II and as an extension to my Fender Bassman 25 practice combo. It sounded great in all applications.

I've since whittled my rig down to the NeoPak and Baby Blue II but the Avatar has been a constant and I recently bought another one (super deal AvatarSpeakers had on Ebay) in 4ohms.
 
#8
Refer to this thread here:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404726
I have a LMII w/Avatar B212 NEO as well - essentially trying to do the same thing you are.
The LMII alone (with the VPF & VLE knobs) get pretty close - of course it's never going to be a perfect recreation of an SVT + Fridge, but...I've got a VT Bass pedal coming and that should add in the dirt.
Per the thread referenced above, it's a common solution to the weight+bulk+tube maintenance quandry.
 
#9
joeybyron said:
I don't see how it could sound bad. Definately get the LMII. The avatar has a great return policy if you don't like it. I'm debating the same thing. I amgoing to get a LMII as well. I would like to get the traveler 102P but at 4 ohms its $730. a little pricey for me. The avatars on the other hand are priced very nicely.

Go for it, if you don't like it send it back.
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The Avatar cabs are voiced similarly to the Markbass cabs so that might work out well for you. Also, remember that Avatar will not accept returns on any cabs unless they're carpet covered. If you get tolex or Line X, you have to keep them. I ran into this personally and only after fighting with them for a while did they agree to take the cabs back. They have since modified their website to specifically clarify this policy.
 
#10
I am thinking of the B210 as a stand alone, that's why I want a 4 ohm to get all the power out of the LMII. If I need more speakers I would take the NV610 and the SVT. I'm looking for a rig for small to medium size gigs and practice and keeping the SVT rig for the times when only a SVT will do.:D
 
#11
kirkm24 said:
The Avatar cabs are voiced similarly to the Markbass cabs so that might work out well for you. Also, remember that Avatar will not accept returns on any cabs unless they're carpet covered. If you get tolex or Line X, you have to keep them. I ran into this personally and only after fighting with them for a while did they agree to take the cabs back. They have since modified their website to specifically clarify this policy.
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It's cool they sound similar but the deciding factor is size and weight.

The Avatar is 44lbs and is 18x24.5x16.5,
whereas the 102p is 33lbs and 13x24x17.

This is why I'm probabily going to get a UL112, the pricing is somehwere in the middle I think.
 
#15
martyman5000 said:
I love my Markbass 2x10 combo ....but if I could choose a head and cab I might choose one twelve only or a 15" to accompany my 10's...nice feel the air push against you when you play.
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If I need to push air I have my NV610 that is easier to move than 2 cabs. I'm looking for something I can move in 1 trip. Backpack with head, pedals and H2. Cab in 1 hand and bass in the other.
I play with 2 guitars, a keyboard and loud drummer. I'm hoping this set up will work at around 50 lbs. vs. the 200 lbs. I currently use.
 

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