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Logic Pro Studio 9 - who is using it?

I highly recommend macprovideo.com
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They sell training videos which walk you through everything.
It's not cheap ($50 to $370) but it is packed with hours and hours of
examples of pretty much every feature. It would take you months
to figure all of this out on your own. Logic has an insane number of features.

If you're patient, they have sales once in a while (up to 50% off).
 
using it, really liking it, well worth the upgrade for me,

some of the extra features are fun, the new amp modeler is very good and has a huge range of sounds for getting guides etc. the pedal board has a lot of fun, quirky and silly sounds and I like the slightly brighter gui.

the flex time is good for tidying up takes and is great for moving around audio within a comp. Its a real step forward in editing though i'm still not quite sure of how it stretces notes, thats cool though, I just don't stretch :)

sound replacer is great, does the job with no fuss.

import session data, its about time! very useful.

mono outputs! at bloody last!

beat detective quantize audio as well, i don't use it very often but its nice to know I CAN without having to leave logic.

for me comp editing has just got better too, its already a super powerful feature that no other DAW has, and they are already improving it to make one of the most laborious of studio tasks very, very easy. awesome!
 
when i get my finances under control, im upgrading.

mostly looking forward to bug fixes and the hit replacer. id like to lace my drums with samples to make them huge. im sure they've vamped up the effects a bit.

if its as big of an improvement as 7-8 was, then its going to be incredible. 7 was a joke.
 
I upgraded almost immediately, and have had no issues with it and love it to death. The amp modeler is pretty decent as it was said before and makes it easier for tracking scratch tracks or using it for a quick notepad to remember song ideas.

I've also had much more success using control surfaces with Logic over Pro Tools 8. Both my Behringer cheapie and the Mackie HUI are working well, with no issues.

Issues I have with the program?

Honestly, none at the moment. I haven't had to do much mixing with it though, mostly just tracking, but I should have a couple of projects coming up where I will have extensive mixing involved and I can come back and comment then.
 
Who has upgraded to Logic Pro Studio 9?

Seems as though this version is getting great reviews in the press.

I am after opinions of musicians. What's great, what's not?

I have not upgraded yet.

But check out these movies..

http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/whats-new/
specifically - Flex Tool, Audio Quantize, Varispeed, and Drum Replacer.

I'm wondering, do musicians who spend so many hours learning and perfecting how to play well, really appreciate tools like these, that allow people who don't do the work to learn how to play well, make recordings that sound like they can play? It seems that it gives even more power to the recording engineer and producer, and less to the musicians. Great for good-looking people who can't play, not so great for wonderful players who are not good-looking. Now they can be replaced as session players too. Soon, the software will allow this processing to be done live. ouch.

Is this to be feared or embraced?
 
I have not upgraded yet.
I'm wondering, do musicians who spend so many hours learning and perfecting how to play well, really appreciate tools like these, that allow people who don't do the work to learn how to play well, make recordings that sound like they can play? It seems that it gives even more power to the recording engineer and producer, and less to the musicians. Great for good-looking people who can't play, not so great for wonderful players who are not good-looking. Now they can be replaced as session players too. Soon, the software will allow this processing to be done live. ouch.

Is this to be feared or embraced?
Machines will never replace talent. A great bass line, a great melody, clever turnarounds, great lyrics don't appear because you have better quantize features. IMO. For people producing computer music, dance, house etc, machines have already replaced musicians/harmony/melody and the result is less than great art.

For those of us who take music and the study of music seriously, better tools mean more efficient use of time and energy. IMO

The intent of this post is to get some idea if musicians are using this software and finding the new features merit the cost of the upgrade.
 
Logic is a great software and very powerful on audio and MIDI. Version 9 brings some really nice features like the Flex editing and Drum replacing. The new Amp design and Pedal board are also really great and improved new plug-ins.

Above all for U$500 (U$200 upgrade) Logic comes with many audio EFX plug-ins, several virtual vintage and modern soft synths, a great sampler, a huge sound library and everything you'll need to start making music just out of the box. No track number limitations, no dongles, nothing to stop your creativity. Install, set it up according to your system…go!

That said, new Logic users may suffer from a very steep learning curve. In spite the program have recently passed over some big changes on its interface which made things easiest than previous versions and dramatically improved the overall workflow it is still a "Pro" software and not 100% intuitive.

Some bugs have been fixed but there are still many complains about it over the Logic forums. In my opinion most of them are just bad setup and poor operation skills.

Since Apple bought Emagic (former Logic maker) many long time users has complaining about the lack of official support from them, although Logic community is very friendly and supportive.

I use Logic since version 1 (composing, movies soundtracks, producing etc…) and love it very much. It's my Nº1 audio software. I also use Protools, Live, and many others program but I have found myself working most of the time just with Logic.

I'm not affiliate with Apple or Logic in any form. Just a Long time user and enthusiast.

Feel free to ask any other questions.

Best
 
Thanks for the review depalm,

I have decided to move to Logic Pro Studio 9. I will report back once I have a chance to get aquatinted with the new features.

For anyone else thinking about this upgrade, I found the upgrade on Amazon for $172... A pretty good discount from the $199 price from Apple.
 
I'm wondering, do musicians who spend so many hours learning and perfecting how to play well, really appreciate tools like these, that allow people who don't do the work to learn how to play well, make recordings that sound like they can play? It seems that it gives even more power to the recording engineer and producer, and less to the musicians. Great for good-looking people who can't play, not so great for wonderful players who are not good-looking. Now they can be replaced as session players too. Soon, the software will allow this processing to be done live. ouch.

Is this to be feared or embraced?

embraced, for sure.

Don't worry about it taking over talent. for a start its nigh on impossible for this technology to become a 'live' thing. it's not possible for most artists and for even the very biggest artists with the biggest of budgets it would be so hard and costly as to be unfeasable.

you can't fix a late note live! if its late it can never be put back in time cos that time has gone! :) you'd have to work on a band/audience delay kind of thing which requires a huge amount of planning. Also, the actual BAND members for the sort of artists that have that money are normally the cream of the crop and dont need any of this stuff, its the normally the front-people that need it in those kind of bands!

You speak of power in the studio as though it is a power struggle between the musicians and engineers, it should never be this way, the engineers job is to take the performace the musicians give, get the most out of them, and then get it sounding as good as possible before the cd hits the shelves. VERY FEW big engineers (outside of the super cheesy pop market) abuse this technology. for a start because it DOESNT SOUND AS GOOD AS PLAYING IT CORRECTLY!

you'll notice this if you try to edit a part thats full of feel with flex time, it just ruins the groove. its really useful for nudging the one wrong note which ruins the otherwise perfect solo, but it does not replace playing well. Good engineers learned this years ago when the first programs that could do this were unveiled, its a last resort tool, but with each new technology it becomes easier to fix a little note without ruining the feel of the rest of the piece.

for people working at home it can be fun to re-write parts completely with flex time but it's nowhere ner the stage where it can replace a well played part (and I don't think it ever will be, until computers can hear music like we do!) even a master editor is very hard pressed to make a realistic sounding 'loose' part with an audio editior. it takes hours and normally the original take sounds much better.

the big cheesy pop stars use it to sound uber perfect but hey, so what, its not as though they are in the buisiness of MUSIC anyway!

I feel quite passionate about the whole subject, the people who make the best records use these tools sparingly, and to combat tight budgets and limited studio time, not to mention idiotic A&R men and label bosses breathing down there necks, but it is almost always done with a musical ear. Most good engineers are good musicians too! there are those that abuse it but they can have there over processed pop as far as I am concerned!

flex time in logic is a really great step forward, I think. Its not quite as intuitave as beat detective yet, but it doesn't slice things into a million pieces and make your computer slow down (like beat detective!) which is a bonus for me from the offset. there are a few bugs but if you follow the tutorials and learn to do it properly most of them dissapear. MOST of them, logic has a HUGE feature set, I still keep finding things in the drop down menus and thinking 'wow thats really useful!' and this seems to sometimes result in glitches as it tries to accurately do SO much. its is such a vast program!
 
Just for your info --

I bought my Mac rig through Sweetwater music. They have a cool deal where if you buy a "qualifying" product -- like the Logic package or upgrade, they give you a 30 day "pass" to a web site called Groove 3. These guys produce tutorial videos on all the major recording software programs -- including new videos on Logic 9.

Since I'm a NOOB to actually owning and operating my own computer recording rig, this was a huge blessing for me to get up to speed in a hurry on all things Logic.

I don't represent Sweetwater, just a happy customer...and when I'm ready to go to version 9, I'm going to take advantage of this deal again.
 
I am having a lot of trouble chopping up audio samples & loading them in the sampler.
A can load the entire song in the sampler but it chops them up automatically.
I want to just chop up little bits and then loading in the sampler.
Any help is more than welcome.