Looking for two 1x12 cabs. Any suggestions?

[brotherbassj]

I do love the DB's with just about anything. 60's J, P Bass.. forget about it... perfect! No matter what was on the floor at my house during all those dozens of GTG's we had back in Detroit, the DB112 stack with the Thunderfunk550b always either 'won', or got the most 'THAT is what I'm talking about' comments from the gang.

This is my current bar rig...........I love the DB112 and 112NT with my Thunderfunk 550B.....and my cabs are monster green! My big boy is a Bergantino NV215 and a Cavrvin B1500

 

[Wally Malone]

I use two Accugroove Tri112's, one of the original models and one of the newer 112L cabs. Prior to that I used Eden 210 and 410 XLT's and those compression drivers produced a very harsh high end. The soft dome tweeters in the Accugrooves are perfect. I know these are no longer made but occasionally show up on the used market. I picked up the Tri112L used last year. I did have the experience of listening to some Fearless cabs at the GTG in Boulder Creek at the end of last September and can say the reviews by those using them on TB are accurate in most cases.

Wally

 

[Musicman_00]

Sounds like I haveore homework to do. Some of these brands I've never even heard of but from the specs they seem great.

I even heard a schroeder 110 on YouTube that sound awesome. Light weight, small and portable is what I'm looking for.

Looked at a Carvin LS 1503 but have read mixed reviews on it.

Input is great folks. Keep it coming!

 

[g4string]

Some comments about the DB112's....I would say nay on the DB's for gospel. However, I would fully endorse a recommendation for a pair of GS112's (both with tweets). I think a pair of GS112's would suite the OP just fine. A pair can be picked up in the classifieds for about 6 bills.

If you need something now, dont wanna wait, and dont mind buying new, get whatever Ken tells you to buy.

In fact, I think we need an "ask Ken" sub-forum. You know, where you post what you're looking for and Ken tells you what you need to get...LOL. Ken, you have cost me thousands!!

 

[Mystic Michael]

I even heard a schroeder 110 on YouTube that sound awesome.

To each his own, and all that stuff. Personally, I've never heard a Schroeder cab that I actually liked. Aggressive midrange is cool, of course, if your particular playing situation calls for it. But at the end of the day, it's still supposed to be a bass. Some actual low end coming out of the cab from time to time would be a very nice thing to have.

OP, don't mess around with the ML or the DB, or even the PH. For gospel, you need hi-fi cabs with some real polish & refinement. Your previous idea of getting a pair of fEARful or fEARless 12/6 or 12/6/1 cabs is a very good one. Be sure you don't overlook a Thunderchild 12 (or two), or a pair of Acme FullRange cabs either.

MM

 

[eban3]

genz benz neo 1 12's been using em for 6? years

 

[SlickB]

This link may help a little.


I may have 3 "like New" Bergantino HD112's with covers in the classifieds this weekend. I haven't made up my mind yet, but thought it worth mentioning to you. The HD series are versatile enough for any musical style- IMO.

 

[CL400Peavey]

To each his own, and all that stuff. Personally, I've never heard a Schroeder cab that I actually liked. Aggressive midrange is cool, of course, if your particular playing situation calls for it. But at the end of the day, it's still supposed to be a bass. Some actual low end coming out of the cab from time to time would be a very nice thing to have.

OP, don't mess around with the ML or the DB, or even the PH. For gospel, you need hi-fi cabs with some real polish & refinement. Your previous idea of getting a pair of fEARful or fEARless 12/6 or 12/6/1 cabs is a very good one. Be sure you don't overlook a Thunderchild 12 (or two), or a pair of Acme FullRange cabs either.

MM

+1

 

[devilman666]

Dna 112

 

[KJung]

To each his own, and all that stuff. Personally, I've never heard a Schroeder cab that I actually liked. Aggressive midrange is cool, of course, if your particular playing situation calls for it. But at the end of the day, it's still supposed to be a bass. Some actual low end coming out of the cab from time to time would be a very nice thing to have.

OP, don't mess around with the ML or the DB, or even the PH. For gospel, you need hi-fi cabs with some real polish & refinement. Your previous idea of getting a pair of fEARful or fEARless 12/6 or 12/6/1 cabs is a very good one. Be sure you don't overlook a Thunderchild 12 (or two), or a pair of Acme FullRange cabs either.

MM

I guess I would push back on this a bit. If the OP's tone goals and playing style are as I assumed previously (and I think he said they were), I would avoid the Acme cabs completely. They are great, but REALLY don't do well with slap transients... not good in that situation, and the massive low end can get in the way without some good control, which many amps don't have. Very low efficiency also... they need more power than you would think IME.

I love my Thunderchild cabs very much, but the top end is very pure and relaxed. If you like your Ken Smith or MTD or J bass to grind a bit up top, and have that nice 'top of the driver' sort of upper mid response, and a bit of top end sizzle that floats above the cab, that might not be the best choice. The new TC212 is pretty cool though, and is kind of a 'better Acme' (i.e., much more robust drivers to handle digging in and peaks, big low end but not extending into the sub bass, and, for better or worse, a VERY clean, pure, balanced top end that is 'present' but not sizzly or aggressive).

fEARful.... can't STAND the voicing of that mid driver combined with the low crossover point myself (I had a fEARful for a short while). The fEARless seems to be a possible option, since the voicing is tightened up a bit and the top end has been 'fixed' a touch, but again, a mid driver loaded cab has its own tone. If I was going that route, I'd go with a Thunderchild... smaller, more even voicing, etc.

Assuming the OP doesn't need massive stage volume, is at least on some kind of budget, and cares about size and weight, and kind of digs the Norm Stockton, Andrew Gouche sort of tone, the little GK Neo112(II) x 2, especially with the MB500 head, is probably the most cost and weight expensive way to get there.

There are rigs I like even more (for example, the new Bergantino CN cabs, which are just as light, and put out more absolute volume and have a VERY high end crossover that just sounds amazing), but for the value and this particular application, hard to beat that little GK rig.

IMO though... most good players can make most rigs sound very good for anything, even if the voicing of the cab or head is not inherently voiced with a particular tone goal in mind.

 

[CL400Peavey]

fEARful.... can't STAND the voicing of that mid driver combined with the low crossover point myself (I had a fEARful for a short while). The fEARless seems to be a possible option, since the voicing is tightened up a bit and the top end has been 'fixed' a touch, but again, a mid driver loaded cab has its own tone.

Ken have you ever played an Alpha loaded 12/6/1?

 

[KJung]

Ken have you ever played an Alpha loaded 12/6/1?

No, but have played 12/6/1 with Faital . Much better than the 18Sound, but still, these mid driver cabs have their own tonality. Quite frankly, if I was looking for a mid driver loaded cab, I'd go with the Baer ML cabs... best voicing up top that I've ever heard in a mid loaded cab, and a low end that is really voiced well, controlled but heavy duty mechanical specs, and a low end actually voiced for the bass guitar IMO.

I did not like the nature of the low end of the 12/6's I've played with the stock 3012LF drivers, and the 8ohm impedance and moderate efficiency limits your head choice. If you have two, that would be massive, but many don't need massive.

IMO and IME. I think my tone goals and playing style are probably much closer to the OP's than to yours, so I'm coming from a very different place than you are. I'm not one to recommend the same cab to every single person, regardless of playing style, needs, tone goals, volume needs, etc.

Edit: Just to be clear, as you know, I recommend fEARFuls (even the stock 15/6 with 18sound, which I really don't like myself) often to players where that voicing seems to make sense. I'm just not feeling it with the OP, but again, IMO and IME. Just another data point for him to consider.

 

[g4string]

Gk stack ken mentioned is $1300 new from MF. That's shipped and tax free. About once a month, or every six weeks, you can always catch a 15% off sale from MF. That brings it down to $1100 shipped.

 

[wcriley]

KJung,
We're well aware that you dislike the mid driver in fEARful 15/6 and dual woofer cabs.
But PLEASE stop bringing it up everytime someone suggests a fEARful 12/6, which uses a completely different driver.

 

[KJung]

Gk stack ken mentioned is $1300 new from MF. That's shipped and tax free. About once a month, or every six weeks, you can always catch a 15% off sale from MF. That brings it down to $1100 shipped.

It is a good value. IF the OP considers this (and again, MANY good options out there), the great news with Musician's friend is you can buy one cab, get the 15% off (you only get that discount for a single item I think), try it for a few weeks. If you dig it, you can then buy the second one and get the 15% off the second one also (I think it is only for one item per purchase sequence). It you don't dig it, send it back within 30 days and you are only out the shipping. Pretty safe.

Again, if he wasn't on any sort of budget, I'd say get two Bergantino CN112's which are soon to be released, but they are double the price of the GK's. Yes, they sound better (they will pound down low with a bit more force, more low end fatness and meat, get a bit louder, and the top end will be more refined but still nice and crisp), but you are paying a lot more for that. Worth it to me, but that is me

 

[KJung]

KJung,
We're well aware that you dislike the mid driver in fEARful 15/6 and dual woofer cabs.
But PLEASE stop bringing it up everytime someone suggests a fEARful 12/6, which uses a completely different driver.

I again would not recommend the 12/6 with any mid driver for the OP. And, it is still a good thing to bring up, since I believe the 18Sound is still an option, and recommended when you get a 12/6/sub rig.

 

[wcriley]

True that the 12/6 might not suit the OP's needs/wants.
But stop bringing up your dislike of the 18Sound mid driver when the discussion is about a cab that doesn't use it. You seem to be intentionally trying to confuse people.

 

[g4string]

It is a good value. IF the OP considers this (and again, MANY good options out there), the great news with Musician's friend is you can buy one cab, get the 15% off (you only get that discount for a single item I think), try it for a few weeks. If you dig it, you can then buy the second one and get the 15% off the second one also (I think it is only for one item per purchase sequence). It you don't dig it, send it back within 30 days and you are only out the shipping. Pretty safe.

Again, if he wasn't on any sort of budget, I'd say get two Bergantino CN112's which are soon to be released, but they are double the price of the GK's. Yes, they sound better (they will pound down low with a bit more force, more low end fatness and meat, get a bit louder, and the top end will be more refined but still nice and crisp), but you are paying a lot more for that. Worth it to me, but that is me

Place a phone call and they will discount the whole order. And yes, with a liberal 45 day return policy, it's a 100% risk free endevour.

 

[KJung]

Place a phone call and they will discount the whole order. And yes, with a liberal 45 day return policy, it's a 100% risk free endevour.

Even better! They carry GK, Genz, Aguilar, Markbass. Lots of good options there!

 

[g4string]

KJung,
We're well aware that you dislike the mid driver in fEARful 15/6 and dual woofer cabs.
But PLEASE stop bringing it up everytime someone suggests a fEARful 12/6, which uses a completely different driver.

On the flip side, it gets pretty old when the fearful fanbois always post that 12/6 or 15/6 fearful type cab is the end-all-be-all when threads like this pop up....when clearly they are not always the best option. That gets pretty old too.