low B ringing out

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Big Train, Jan 1, 2009.

  1. Big Train

    Big Train

    Dec 15, 2008
    Recently I got a Ibanez SR706 and i love it, except i have one big problem with it. Every time i play, especially when i get to the high strings my low B rings out. Since the neck is so large I can't mute my strings and play at the same time, so I'm at a loss for what to do.

    This makes playing with fuzz or overdrive impossible because it muddies the whole thing up. Does anyone know if the bridge is at fault here? or is it something else? If it is the bridge is there a possibility of getting a replacement?
  2. loonybob123

    loonybob123 Guest

    Nov 18, 2008
    San Antonio, Texas
    Low B ringing is a common problem and there are several ways you can fix this the two I know of is to get a low B string that allows you to have it at a tighter tension or simply to raise your action. If you want you can also practice resting your thumb on the B string while you are playing the higher strings(thats what I do).
  3. calebbarton


    Aug 25, 2007
    I manufacture for several companies including but not limited to: Bridge City Sound, Catalinbread, more.
    thats what i do too. you just have to play lighter i think.
  4. Big Train

    Big Train

    Dec 15, 2008
    I tried playing as light as i could but no matter how soft i played the damned thing still rung. I thought about resting my thumb on the B however the E string has a tendency to ring as well, so that won't work.

    Will I be able to swap in one of those individual string bridges? I know the BTB series has them, but will it be a drop in for my bass?
  5. loonybob123

    loonybob123 Guest

    Nov 18, 2008
    San Antonio, Texas
    then its definetly an action problem raise your action 1/8' of an inch and you should be fine .
  6. SpamBot

    SpamBot Guest

    Dec 25, 2008
    St. Paul, MN
    You should be able to mute it somehow. Try anchoring your thumb on the b if you play fingerstyle, or palm-mute it if you plec.
  7. You have to use the floating thumb technique or some variation of it. When playing on the E-string, you can rest your thumb on the B-string. When you are playing on higher strings than that, you can rest your thumb on the E-string, but you have to also rest the side of your thumb on the B-string so you are muting both at the same time. It will take a while to get used to, but it's something you need to do to play cleanly.
  8. Get a plain hair 'scrunchy' and slip it over the head onto the strings just past the nut. It doesn't stop the strings sounding out when plucked, but deadens the open strings from droning.

    I've seen some pros use this idea.
  9. Big Train

    Big Train

    Dec 15, 2008
    OK so i just tried raising the action on the B but that didnt change anything. Listening to it now I realize that my B,E and A strings are all producing a harmonic when i play my high C or G. This is ridiculous it makes everything sound awful because the tones are no longer in key.

    I also attempted playing even lighter but that didnt work either. I think the vibration of my string is causing the low strings to vibrate as well.
  10. Moving Pictures

    Moving Pictures Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2002
    Seriously, try the floating thumb technique. It is an important technique when playing an ERB.
  11. You really have to re-think your muting technique when going to a 6 string bass. (From 4 or 5). You need to use both your left and right hands to mute, but mostly you need to find away to keep your right hand on the low strings when playing high.

    Have alook at some John Pattituci videos on youtube and note his right hand position. It might feel a bit weird at first, especially if you've come from 4 strings, but laying your thumb down across the strings like John is probably the most effective way.

    Btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with action and whislt I use a scrunchy when playing palm muted I wouldn't recommend using one until you can nail muting withour one. Cobtrary to what has been said above, having a scrunchy resting on your strings does alter the sound of open strings.
  12. Big Train

    Big Train

    Dec 15, 2008
    Alrighty then I'm off to practice my floating thumb technique. Thanks for all the help I appreciate it.
  13. puff father

    puff father

    Jan 20, 2006
    Endicott, NY
    Check out Todd Johnson here on TB. He is a master of the floating thumb technique and is very willing and able to teach!
  14. kalle74


    Aug 27, 2004
    the problem is your muting technique. not your bass, or setup etc...

    do a search on muting technique. you may need to adjust your playing a bit...
  15. Yep. It's called 'sympathetic vibrations', and there is no easy fix to make it stop. You just have to learn to mute all the strings that you're not playing, whenever you're not playing them. Using a combination of both hands. Takes a lot of work, but that's one of the most important aspects of playing bass (especially an extended range bass), being able to play cleanly by keeping the bass from making any unwanted noises :bassist:
  16. Moving Pictures

    Moving Pictures Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2002
    To add a bit more about the floating thumb technique, I noticed how relaxed my right hand became when I used it and that because it was more relaxed I gained some speed. I have been using the technique for a long time now and now playing with out it when playing finger style feels very wrong and tight. Start slow and work your way up to speed. It really does work, even on 4's ;)
  17. I've always rested my thumb on the low B, but occasionally I still have my B string ring a little.
  18. EADG mx

    EADG mx Guest

    Jul 4, 2005
  19. RedsFan75


    Apr 26, 2007
    +1 on the floating thumb. Since I just bought Todd Johnson's DVD, I've been working on it, and it's the answer to your question.
  20. And +2