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Low Down Sound 15/6.5 Cab

#221
Trying to figure out if the 15/6 with my Thunderfunk 420 would be loud enough. That's 240@8ohms. It's loud enough for me with my DrBass 212 which is 4ohms (so 400watts @ 4ohms). I'm looking to go lighter with better mids.

So am I setting myself up to be underwhelmed (by volume) and need a 2nd cab for gigs to use that extra juice or is there a good chance that this would be enough?
 
#223
bassplace said:
Trying to figure out if the 15/6 with my Thunderfunk 420 would be loud enough. That's 240@8ohms. It's loud enough for me with my DrBass 212 which is 4ohms (so 400watts @ 4ohms). I'm looking to go lighter with better mids.

So am I setting myself up to be underwhelmed (by volume) and need a 2nd cab for gigs to use that extra juice or is there a good chance that this would be enough?
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Too bad my rehearsal was called off today. I was gonna A/B my fEarful 15/6/1 with my Dr Bass 2460.

The 2460 is @ my guitard's house so this is VERY unscientific, but the volume of my 15/6/1 (300W@ 8 ohms) is very similar to my 2460 (500W @ 4 ohms)

One thing I can say for sure though, the 15/6/1 tone KILLS!
It has a much fuller bottom and cleaner highs.

IMO you won't be underwhelmed.
 
#225
Nice posts Chef! Good to get more ears on this class of cab!

I again was very impressed at the size/weight/volume/low end ratio with these, and also that kind of 'vintage meets modern' vibe that, IMO, comes from that paper cone mid handling the top end.

Again, for certain tone goals (not mine!), this is a killer design IMO!
 
#226
xbassmanx said:
Too bad my rehearsal was called off today. I was gonna A/B my fEarful 15/6/1 with my Dr Bass 2460.

The 2460 is @ my guitard's house so this is VERY unscientific, but the volume of my 15/6/1 (300W@ 8 ohms) is very similar to my 2460 (500W @ 4 ohms)

One thing I can say for sure though, the 15/6/1 tone KILLS!
It has a much fuller bottom and cleaner highs.

IMO you won't be underwhelmed.
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Thanks for the input. Going to wait until I get my 5-string fretless before making a decision.

For reference, Don sent measurements of "20" wide, 30" tall, and 16" deep." in my quote so he's had at least a couple of designs going.

I also like KJung's quote of "Vintage meets Modern vibe". Sounds like what I'd like.
 
#228
bassplace said:
Thanks for the input. Going to wait until I get my 5-string fretless before making a decision.

For reference, Don sent measurements of "20" wide, 30" tall, and 16" deep." in my quote so he's had at least a couple of designs going.
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Sound rather familiar ; } ...I play nothing but fretless tuned with low B0 or lower.

I also like KJung's quote of "Vintage meets Modern vibe". Sounds like what I'd like.
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That's only the tip of the iceberg, really.
 
#231
Yeah, those Peavey Pro amps have an awesome eq section for a bass amp. It's a standard fender tone stack type amp where your options are pretty limited and while it'll sound good, it's not going to stand up and do tricks like when you can pick and choose what freqs to boost and cut :)
 
#232
bassplace said:
Trying to figure out if the 15/6 with my Thunderfunk 420 would be loud enough.
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In your case you'd be better off with the standard 3015 driver. You can't exceed its excursion with 240 watts and the extra sensitivity compared to the 3015LF will be welcomed. The 3015LF is only advantageous if you've got over 300 watts or so into it.
 
#235
koobie said:
I've currently got a Hartke LH500 on loan; the description of "limited" fits the eq pretty well, but "pathetically" is more than a bit judgmental.
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+1 I guess I'm lucky in that I have the opportunity to try a lot of stuff and purchase quite a bit also. The only heads that tend to stay around are ones where I virtually never touch the EQ:hiding:

I've never been a fan of using massive EQ to make a cab or bass (or head) sound like 'what it's not'. It never seems to work IME.
 
#236
peterpalmieri said:
What would be an example of a "pathetically limited eq sections many amps get away with"?
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Less than 7 bands covering the useful range of 32 to 10kHz. If you have that, or more, and you have a cab with relatively flat/uncolored response you can get just about any tone you want. But with fewer EQ bands, or a highly colored cab, your tone options are limited.
 
#238
billfitzmaurice said:
Less than 7 bands covering the useful range of 32 to 10kHz. If you have that, or more, and you have a cab with relatively flat/uncolored response you can get just about any tone you want. But with fewer EQ bands, or a highly colored cab, your tone options are limited.
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Wow. I can get virtually any tone I can even think of with hand placement and technique, given enough watts.

PA logic is VERY different from actually playing the instrument:hiding:

Also, the idea that a 'flat response cab' can generate any response with enough EQ is hilarious. Different components have different timbre's, and a 7 or 70 band EQ is not going to make them sound the same IMO and IME.
 
#239
billfitzmaurice said:
Less than 7 bands covering the useful range of 32 to 10kHz. If you have that, or more, and you have a cab with relatively flat/uncolored response you can get just about any tone you want. But with fewer EQ bands, or a highly colored cab, your tone options are limited.
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I tend to agree with Ken, utilizing EQ to make a bass or amp/cab sound like what it's not very rarely produces positive results. I am in the camp of it is what it is, like it or sell it.

Bill; in an ideal world an uncolored cab with a full spectrum of EQ should be able to emulate a wide range of amp/speaker tones. To date I don't know of either an amp or cabinet that can do this effectively. More so speaker cabinets then amps(heads).

My original question to rpsands I thought might bring out a response giving examples of specific amps that have poorly voiced EQ sections, certainly not your answer.

In any case I appreciate your thoughts...
 

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