Magnets & Copper Wire: A Pickup Building Thread

[Honkey tonk]

Do you think the black oxid has an effect on the tone ?

When I think oxide , I think of some old heavy rusty transformer that some how puts out a diffrent dimension of sound (almost like it's compacting or damming diffrent parts of flux?

 

[slowburnaz]

Do you think the black oxid has an effect on the tone ?

When I think oxide , I think of some old heavy rusty transformer that some how puts out a diffrent dimension of sound (almost like it's compacting or damming diffrent parts of flux?

If it does affect the tone, I haven't noticed it.

 

[Beej]

Due to some weird issues printing large flat surfaces perpendicular to the print head, I did a little redesign of the covers on my Wal-style multicoil pickups:

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• slowburnaz
• Sep 23, 2021
• pickups

8 coil pickup with black insert

Kinda fits in aesthetically with some triple coils I've been doing. Some more variations here, with bamboo, gold metallic, and silver metallic inserts for the covers, and shoing both zinc-plated and black-oxide-coated pole screws:

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• slowburnaz
• Sep 23, 2021
• pickups

8 coil pickup with bamboo insert

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• slowburnaz
• Sep 23, 2021
• pickups

8 coil pickup with gold metallic insert

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• slowburnaz
• Sep 23, 2021
• pickups

8 coil pickup with silver metallic insert

Good gravy you make some hot lookin' pickups...

 

[slowburnaz]

Good gravy you make some hot lookin' pickups...

Many thanks, man!

 

[dwizum]

I hope I can share this in here without potentially causing embarrassment to the other party involved, but I thought you guys might get a kick out of this message I just got from someone for whom I'm building a set of my Fat Jazz split coil pickups, in wood shells:

 

[slowburnaz]

I hope I can share this in here without potentially causing embarrassment to the other party involved, but I thought you guys might get a kick out of this message I just got from someone for whom I'm building a set of my Fat Jazz split coil pickups, in wood shells:

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That's a genre I've never heard of...

 

[A9X]

I hope I can share this in here without potentially causing embarrassment to the other party involved,

They don't go mwaaah, they go fwaaart.

 

[RichterScale]

That's a genre I've never heard of...

Fairly new, but will probably be the new rage in no time.

 

[Beej]

That's a genre I've never heard of...

I actually hear that a lot from the "p bass through an ampeg" crowd trying to play jazz.

 

[Bruce Johnson]

From the engineering viewpoint, I think Fart Tone is mostly caused by the amp. It's a very low frequency sub-harmonic vibration of the tube innards, which causes that "flapping lips" noise to be added to the note. And/or it may be a mechanical problem with the speaker. I don't think a magnetic pickup can really cause or create a Fart tone by itself. I suppose that a pickup with extra deep low frequency range may trigger a Fart-ready amp to break some sonic wind more easily than a pickup with less bottom end. But that same pickup through a clean amp will make a clean sound.

 

[slowburnaz]

From the engineering viewpoint, I think Fart Tone is mostly caused by the amp. It's a very low frequency sub-harmonic vibration of the tube innards, which causes that "flapping lips" noise to be added to the note. And/or it may be a mechanical problem with the speaker. I don't think a magnetic pickup can really cause or create a Fart tone by itself. I suppose that a pickup with extra deep low frequency range may trigger a Fart-ready amp to break some sonic wind more easily than a pickup with less bottom end. But that same pickup through a clean amp will make a clean sound.

Maybe some heavy wire, say 38-40 AWG, wound very loosely? Un-potted, and slotted covers, exposing the coils to external "gusts"?

 

[Bruce Johnson]

Maybe some heavy wire, say 38-40 AWG, wound very loosely? Un-potted, and slotted covers, exposing the coils to external "gusts"?

Maybe. But un-potted vibrating coil wires are more likely to create high frequency sonic flatulence; toots and squeaks.

 

[RichterScale]

@Bruce Johnson, shhhhhh.
You're gonna blow up his marketing scheme and ruin a whole product line.

 

[Bruce Johnson]

@Bruce Johnson, shhhhhh.
You're gonna blow up his marketing scheme and ruin a whole product line.

I'm trying to get Chris thinking...about how to create a special magnetic pickup that actually does create Sonic Flatulence! That could be a real marketable product.

Think about creating very low frequency vibration inside the pickup, which ends up being added into the signal. Mount the coil in silicone rubber? Mount the magnets in rubber with the coil held rigid? Mount the whole coil/magnet assembly in soft springs? All possible directions.

 

[rudy4444]

I think I'd pass (gas?) on that one.

 

[dwizum]

These pickups would be perfect for the new hit single I'm writing, "Blame it on the Dog"

 

[Bruce Johnson]

I just happened to be listening to some Grand Funk a few minutes ago. Mel Schacher's sound is the definition of Fart Bass to me. Imagine if you could make a pickup that could make that sound out through a small clean solid state amp.

 

[RichterScale]

Hmmm,... it probably has to be matched with the right tone wood.

 

[slowburnaz]

Hmmm,... it probably has to be matched with the right tone wood.

I'm thinking roasted swamp ass would be perfect

 

[RichterScale]