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Man music stuff has gotten expensive

I think the item that has increased most significantly lately is groceries, but we’re not eating out as much and I’m eating pretty healthy which isn’t cheap. Our biggest plus is that we didn’t chase the ever bigger house and have flexibility in the budget. We now live in a high earning area with a mortgage that’s lower than rent in most small towns. It wasn’t always like this, so I do feel the pain. Meanwhile, as you make more, those taxes go up too.
 
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Quality music gear is more affordable now than it has ever been.

You mention your last bass purchase was around 2006: the cost of gasoline has doubled since then.

A full Bergantino rig costs around $3k: that’s around 1/5th the cost of a “cheap” new car, hardly a house :roflmao:

Yup. Lots of hogwash "alternative facts" in the OP.

I have lots and lots of music (and photography) stuff. Plenty of it "expensive." None of the music stuff is super high end, and all the super high end camera stuff is outdated high end stuff that I got free or paid peanuts for. E.g. a '70s S.I.N.A.R. (an EXTREMELY expensive camera when new) that my boss gave me for consistently doing a good job at work for 10 years. E.g. a $20,000 Chromega 10x10 enlarger rig that I bought used for $750 at the height of people dumping their old film equipment, etc.

I don't make all that much money. I have only once cracked $40,000 in a year. I grew up with a disabled single father, barely graduated high school, and I chose to get a good financial start with an 8 year career in the military nuclear power field (advanced rank, good practical technical education, big cash bonuses, and NO EXPENSES). When I left that, I took my stowed money and invested it in setting up a life for myself that has very low overhead. I purchased a mobile home free and clear, located in a rent controlled trailer park, and I paid for my vocational education in the field of photography, using the G.I. Bill. I own my home free and clear, and my monthly rent is $270. I didn't have kids, and I didn't get married till I was almost 40.

I choose to "store" my free personal money in the equipment of my hobbies and semi-professions, rather than spending it on overhead and junk, and/or loaning it to corporations or banks. I don't spend on a bunch of stuff that most people do spend on. Haven't owned a TV since 2005. Have never had cable. I have never bought a computer; I used hand-me-downs all my life, and now my laptop provided by work (which is 8 years old). I keep my cel phones about five years on average, and only get a new one when the phone company gives it to me for free. I got my Razor phone for free from my cel company, and used it for eight years. Use the vacuum cleaner that has been in my family since 1969. Wear my clothes for decades. Never used a dishwasher or central air. Cook at home and eat leftovers. Don't spend much on gasoline. And so on and so forth.

I also inherited quite a lot of instruments at one point. My pops was kind of the same way. Never made much money...but kept his basic expenses low, and spent on his hobbies so he could enjoy his life, instead of loaning his dough to others so he could [hopefully] have lots of it when he was a geezer. Seemed like a good choice, IMO, since he died at 51.

Point being, you don't have to be "rich" to have a nice collection of musical gear. You can have it with have a combination of good fortune (I was born a white male in America into a lower middle class family during time of general world peace – could be a heck of a lot worse), timely decision making, and well thought out career and financial choices.
 
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From a price-performance perspective, music gear has never been less expensive. Case in point: Jackson JS3V. $349 gets you 5 strings, active electronics, great build quality, a wide variety of sounds, good balance, great playability and good looks.

Accounting for inflation, 14 years ago this would have cost $180.
But there’s no way you would have gotten this level of instrument for that price at that time. You’d have had to spend $500 or more.
 
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I realize I haven't bought anything new since my Fender American Standard Jazz bass in 2006 or 2007 but things are so much now. Every 5 string I look at, new or used, is thousands or close to 2k.

Amplifiers? Bergantino is like buying a house. Others are no better, including Aguilar or ampeg. Traynor? I had to get up off the floor. I guess $500 for my Eden WT405 in 2005 may be comparable to today, but I don't know. I do know it's 16 pounds.

I see you guys with 10 amps, 20 basses and think, wow. Then someone will post a thinning the heard bass, that costs 3.5k.

I never realized I was among so many rich people here on Talk Bass.

I have two basses and two amps. If I thin the herd then I will have no herd.

Thanks for reading
Yup.
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But, it's the finer things in life. Oh, and were not rich. We spend it all on music gear :)
 
Don’t forget that there are a lot of older people on Talkbass. Older folks tend to have a little more disposable income, and a little more free time to spend it. 20 years ago I sold pretty much everything I had just to make mortgage payments, kids tuition and stuff like that.
 
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Priorities and money management. I remember being in a bar band and our drummer was always taking his gear to the pawn shop. This seemed like a weekly event and we all had to pitch in to get his gear out of hock. Fun times, and that lasted way longer than it should have. I think most people get good gear and cant keep it by getting in over their head with credit. Sorry, kind of off topic, but yeah everything is expensive these days. Some TBer's on here have quit the collection.
 
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This piqued my curiosity, so I had to go and look. There are some cool graphical tools at the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is the entity that tracks our "official" inflation rate. I believe the gray regions are periods that are recessions... so the current situation hasn't gotten an official recession designation... yet. Food has definitely gone up a bit... it is quite labor intensive in the final analysis, and I'm sure it's affected by things like the disruption of meat packing.

They don't track basses. ;)

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Some people on here spend serious money on gear. We are all in different places and in this for different reasons. I’m a 47 year old hobbyist who is never going to be a pro. That said, I like nice gear and over the years have acquired some nice stuff. Still, the most of paid for any one thing was $1500 for a new G&L 5 string. I’m patient and look for good deals. I also believe strongly in the law of diminishing returns.
 
I realize I haven't bought anything new since my Fender American Standard Jazz bass in 2006 or 2007 but things are so much now. Every 5 string I look at, new or used, is thousands or close to 2k.

Amplifiers? Bergantino is like buying a house. Others are no better, including Aguilar or ampeg. Traynor? I had to get up off the floor. I guess $500 for my Eden WT405 in 2005 may be comparable to today, but I don't know. I do know it's 16 pounds.

I see you guys with 10 amps, 20 basses and think, wow. Then someone will post a thinning the heard bass, that costs 3.5k.

I never realized I was among so many rich people here on Talk Bass.

I have two basses and two amps. If I thin the herd then I will have no herd.

Thanks for reading

Right there with you. One bass, one amp, one cab. Even those seem like luxuries most days.
 
I'm glad to have found TalkBass so that when I need a real head and cab, I can ask here since TBers have owned every last thing under the sun. :)

I'm still scratching my head at some forum jargon like how you can't mix certain size cabs with others and why jaco only needed four, but hey. I'm a newbie. :roflmao:
 
I'd only say that the serious good stuff has always been expensive, from the 70's when I started, up until today.

However, I'm constantly encouraged at the large amounts of good instruments and amps in the less than a grand, even less than $500 range. When I started out in the 70's, as a beginner you either bought those crap basses with funny names (that somehow now are collectable, what a farce) or you had to step up to a Fender or Rickenbacker or Gibson. And there were no amps I'd call a beginner amp aside from maybe a Peavey TNT.

Cats starting out today have a zillion more useable choices than we had back then for price tags most anyone can handle, even less if you carefully buy used.
 
You'll only start to feel rich if you manage to fill up the kids college accounts :roflmao:. My son is on a gap year. My daughter is in 11th grade, and looking for a career in electrical engineering. I'm about to be very poor.
I paid for both of my kids to go to UC schools here in California out of pocket. They are also just 2 years apart so at one point their college expenses overlapped for 2 years (ouch!).
It was expensive and a challenge, but I will say that once my youngest graduated and I was able to stop paying all those school expenses it was like I got the biggest raise of my life. They're both in the early 30's now so that was a little while ago, and totally worth it as they have both been fully self supporting for quite a while and they are happy with their work options.

its tough now, but you'll make it through and get the same "raise" as I did. :thumbsup:
 
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I have two really nice basses and a great amp/cab setup, along with a lot of really cool pedals. I also haven’t been in band in a loooooong time.

Back when I was gigging I never even THOUGHT about owning multiple basses, wasn’t interested in pedals, and never even considered a different amp, because I was broke. Now I have a career and the ability to own some nice equipment, even if it just serves to make me happy.

It is really funny how life works out, innit?