I have tried all of their stuff before 2 series. Unhappy of what I have got. I am a maniac. But it was soapy and unnatural sound. Worse than Zoom 505.
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Mark Bass Synth VS. Source Audio Envelope Pro
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Adamixoye
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The BEF Pro, unlike the Manta, doesn't have any distortion. It is purely a filter, with a variety of different filters and means of modulation. Even though the Markbass Synth has an envelope filter aspect, it's strength is three tunable sawtooth oscillators, but its filter capabilities are very limited.
Comparing a filter like the BEF Pro and a synth like the Markbass would be similar to comparing dirt and compression just because dirt causes some inherent compression and some compressors can add grit. There may be a bit of overlap, but they are apples and oranges otherwise.
Comparing a filter like the BEF Pro and a synth like the Markbass would be similar to comparing dirt and compression just because dirt causes some inherent compression and some compressors can add grit. There may be a bit of overlap, but they are apples and oranges otherwise.
Yeah that makes total sense but what im saying is that filters and synths go hand in hand. I guess its personal preference but most people that rock bass synths also have filters and vice versa. they are not in a different realm, these two pedals are in many peoples set ups, like they have both. not only that but during an actual song it would not be unorthadox to play a synth instead of a filter. I am just asking people what they think from first hand experience with the pedals. I am sorry you feel that its a pointless thread thats not my problem lol
Adamixoye
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To continue my analogy and put it in the context that you have, lots of people use dirt and compression---but you still wouldn't ask, "Should I get this OD pedal or the Ovnilabs Smoothie?"
I guess where I see a basket full of apples and oranges, you see a basket of fruit. Buy both, they'll work well together and make sounds that you couldn't make with just one or the other.
Yeah I dont see the similarity.. overdrive and compression?? thats apples to oranges my friend these 2 effects are much much more similar and are used in the same styles of music therefore I just wanted to know which was more high quality.. I am going to GC to try both of them out in a few days So ill see which one I want then.
Compression can be used in everything where as a filter and synth most likely are not. and overdrive? how does overdrive compare to compression at all?
Adamixoye
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Okay, I don't own the BEF Pro, but I used to own the Markbass SuperSynth and I currently own the Source Audio Manta, so I suppose I am in a decent position to comment on the OP's question. But the two just don't produce the same sounds, to me it is apples and oranges. Obviously synths and filters have an overlap to a degree, because many synths (including the Markbass) have some sort of filter. But they're still pretty fundamentally different.
Sorry if I made it confusing by bringing up the OD/compression analogy. The analogy is that there is in fact an overlap in what these two effects do to your signal. OD and other dirt inherently causes compression (read up on Ovnilab if you're unfamiliar with this concept), and some compressors add grit as a feature, not a bug (Fairfield Accountant and Pigtronix Philosopher's Stone come to mind). There is a relationship in the signal processing that links these two effects, even though in the big picture they are quite different.
The same goes for synths and filters. There is some commonality in what they do to a signal, but there are probably as many or more differences. Maybe they are more connected than OD/compression but they are still fundamentally different. The original question only asked which was better in terms of a few sonic qualities, it's kind of an odd question because it would be much more helpful to know what sort of sounds you're trying to cop.
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but overall the BEF-PRO has a LOT more flexibility,tones,control and can really get synthy with octave,fuzz/dirt and a HH3.
but overall the BEF-PRO has a LOT more flexibility,tones,control and can really get synthy with octave,fuzz/dirt and a HH3.
I've been unsure about asking for clarification from the OP, because RaunchMister's original question didn't sound like it was really directed at the filter aspects which the pedals might have in common. It sounded like more a question one would ask about a fuzz or an overdrive.
With that said, let me try an answer:
Before you ask more questions, I'd suggest you listen to some demos on YouTube, and see if you can find either of the units doing the sound(s) you're looking for, or even another unit doing it if you want to give an example of what you're looking for. I think of envelopes responding to attack, and I suspect I'm not the only one thrown off by the question being not quite related to the two pedals you're asking about.
Markbass Supersynth - pedal which either works allows mixing oriignal, one octave up and one and two octave down voices, or applies envelope filter to onboard synth.
Source Audio Bass Envelope Pro - Envelope Filter, with an additional input allowing the filter's opening/closing to be controlled by expression or the HotHand controller.
I highly recommend you watch at least those two videos, and then read the mauals, available online, to get an idea of what each is doing. At that point, not only will you be able to express what you want to ask, but you'll have gained a better understanding of what each does and doesn't do, making easier for you to answer your own question. You'll also be able to identify what you actually want a piece to do.
Happy viewing, reading, and learning! Good luck!
With that said, let me try an answer:
Both effects have filters whose sensitivity can be dialed in to respond effectively to your instrument's attack. How fast they respond is also a changeable parameter, allowing the movement to be faster or slower.
Before you ask more questions, I'd suggest you listen to some demos on YouTube, and see if you can find either of the units doing the sound(s) you're looking for, or even another unit doing it if you want to give an example of what you're looking for. I think of envelopes responding to attack, and I suspect I'm not the only one thrown off by the question being not quite related to the two pedals you're asking about.
Markbass Supersynth - pedal which either works allows mixing oriignal, one octave up and one and two octave down voices, or applies envelope filter to onboard synth.
Source Audio Bass Envelope Pro - Envelope Filter, with an additional input allowing the filter's opening/closing to be controlled by expression or the HotHand controller.
I highly recommend you watch at least those two videos, and then read the mauals, available online, to get an idea of what each is doing. At that point, not only will you be able to express what you want to ask, but you'll have gained a better understanding of what each does and doesn't do, making easier for you to answer your own question. You'll also be able to identify what you actually want a piece to do.
Happy viewing, reading, and learning! Good luck!
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