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Markbass Megathread PART 2

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#341
KJung said:
I own the LMII and used the AcmeB210's for quite a while. I have not tried them together, but from what I know about both, that should be an awesome combination. The 500 watts into the 4ohm B210 would be perfect IMO and IME, and the way the bass control and low mid controls are voiced on the LMII would seem to be perfect for eliminating a little bit of that big low end (if desired) and dialing in a little more low mid punch.

As long as you realize it won't be as loud in an absolute sense as other more traditionally voiced 210's, due to the SPL, low end extension, etc., that should be a very clean, pure, fat sounding small gig rig IMO, and at least indirectly IME:bassist:
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Thanks K

I appreciate that and trust your experience.

I'm aware that I will not have a killer rig of doom.
However tone, low note reproduction, and size/maintance is almost unmatched (for what I want IMHO)

With that being said its a very different tone than what I'm used to (not a bad tone) just different (tube-Pre with 4x10). However I think it would work well for small room sit ins that require a sophisticated sound.

Cheers
 
#342
basswave said:
Thanks K

I appreciate that and trust your experience.

I'm aware that I will not have a killer rig of doom.
However tone, low note reproduction, and size/maintance is almost unmatched (for what I want IMHO)

With that being said its a very different tone than what I'm used to (not a bad tone) just different (tube-Pre with 4x10). However I think it would work well for small room sit ins that require a sophisticated sound.

Cheers
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+1. I actually use a Walter Woods and a Bergantino HS210s (and sometimes the companion HT122s) for the same reason and in similar situations. I love the punch and growl and grind of a good, traditionally voiced and designed 410 for most of my gigs, but there are times when a very wide, smooth, somewhat hi fi 'PA type' rig sounds really good (i.e., jazz oriented gigs with acoustic piano, etc.). The Acme is great for that, as are some of the earlier Bergantino HT designs with those hi xmax woofers, etc.
 
#343
Joe_Atlanta said:
Acme B2 is my main cab. I used a LMKII with it briefly and found it very easy too dial in a good sound. Not quite as flat as running my Fishman pre into a power amp, there's a little warmth to the booty freqs and a little edge/sizzle up top.

FWIW, the one I used got plenty loud at a small outdoor gig, but it shut down about 15 minutes into the gig. After a lot of discussion here and with the Markbass folks, I'm pretty much convinced I got a bad unit that failed under an exceptionally heavy load (running the Acme outdoors I don't roll off any bass as I usually do at indoor gigs).

Joe
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Thanks Joe :)

I don't find the MKII (flat like) for whatever that is worth anyways. I think it most certainly has a slight spin on tone in gereral. However its aesticially pleasing to my ear.

Sorry to hear your deal with the LMKII.

Hope all is well now with it.

Cheers
-B~

:bassist:
 
#344
KJung said:
I would think that would work fine for many tone goals. I personally hate anything between the bass and amp. Since I have quite a bit of upper mid and treble in my personal tone, it's these areas that seem to really suffer when putting a cheap, non true bypass tuner, or most wireless systems into your signal path. However, for more traditional, vintage, or rock type tones (I know that's an oversimplification, but you know what I mean), it's probably less of an issue IMO.

You will know in a minute if it bothers you or not IME.
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A little bit OT but to add another datapoint, noting that wireless is of course only for live performance, not studio recording, I also have a ULXS14 and it works great for me live. In a live mix it sounds every bit as good as corded, IMHO.
 
#345
Vic said:
A little bit OT but to add another datapoint, noting that wireless is of course only for live performance, not studio recording, I also have a ULXS14 and it works great for me live. In a live mix it sounds every bit as good as corded, IMHO.
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I assume, given your comment about recording, that it actually doesn't sound as good, but you don't really notice in a live mix (or else it would be fine for recording:smug: . That's kind of where I'm at also, but since I 'know' that it doesn't sound as good, it just kind of bums me out. That subtle 'deadening' of the upper mids and high end, and that slight increase in noise just really gets to me.

When you combine this with your signal going through non-true bypass tuners, etc., that's just something I'm not comfortable with.

However, again, it's all about what sounds OK for you, and you will know if its a problem or not from the first few notes:)
 
#346
Vic said:
Ehhh, the tongue in cheek reply is well deserved, since I didn't explain, and in context it would seem I'm saying that.

No, I didn't mean to imply that I could personally hear the difference. In my case, it's more about elimination of any potential for signal corruption, noise, or any other "problem" when you get that "magic take." Any time you add complexity to a signal chain, and that can even be just a couple connectors and a cable, you add risk. If it's necessary, fine. If it's optional, don't do it.

In a live mix, I don't think that level of risk is worth worrying about. If you get a cable crackle or whatever, fix it an move on. :)
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+1... just having fun:p
 
#347
KJung said:
I assume, given your comment about recording, that it actually doesn't sound as good, but you don't really notice in a live mix (or else it would be fine for recording:smug: .
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Ehhh, the tongue in cheek reply is well deserved, since I didn't explain, and in context it would seem I'm saying that.

No, I didn't mean to imply that I could personally hear the difference. In my case, it's more about elimination of any potential for signal corruption, noise, or any other "problem" when you get that "magic take." Any time you add complexity to a signal chain, and that can even be just a couple connectors and a cable, you add risk. If it's necessary, fine. If it's optional, don't do it.

In a live mix, I don't think that level of risk is worth worrying about. If you get a cable crackle or whatever, fix it an move on. :)

EDIT: Caught me in the middle of an edit. :D

That's on the TU-2 thing. :)

On the wireless, yeah, I can tell, but not enough to counter the convenience of the wireless on a gig, but clearly, any reputable studio engineer would smack the crap out of you if you put a wireless system between you and his board. :D
 
#349
KJung said:
While I'm not one who see's enough advantage to the SA450 to justify the larger size and significant price premium, here's a request to the MB guys:

If you could get the wattage of the SA450 closer to the SD800, but still use a class A/B power amp, I would sell everything I own and buy two of them:D
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I second that. :hyper:

How 'bout "SD800-AB"? :D
 
#353
I'm curious about changing the fx loop from parallel to series.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but having the fx loop in series means you can have your tuner/mute hooked into the effects loop and have it mute the amp while tuning, rather than have to plug the tuner/mute into the front of the amp.

Are there any drawbacks to this?

Why wouldnt MarkBass just put it in series to begin with?
 
#354
::::BASSIST:::: said:
I'm curious about changing the fx loop from parallel to series.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but having the fx loop in series means you can have your tuner/mute hooked into the effects loop and have it mute the amp while tuning, rather than have to plug the tuner/mute into the front of the amp.

Are there any drawbacks to this?

Why wouldnt MarkBass just put it in series to begin with?
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MB explain its done like this so that if something in the FX chain goes down you dont loose you signal.
And yes, if its in series and you use a mute pedal it will mute the sound form the amp
 
#355
Another advantage to a paralell FX loop, is you always have 50% of your original signal mixed in. So if your tone gets thin through a certain box in series, it would retain a fattness (original signal) in paralell. Of course I may be wrong here, but that is my understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong...again!:help: :D :rolleyes:




Johno!
 
#356
Hey all
Just picked up a LM2 from guitar center chicago. I called and thru some twist of luck got a manager :hyper: His name was Jeff, ask for him if you want to order from that store. No bs involved. It turns out when I called they only had 1 in stock and it was a floor model. Lucky for me jeff checked and found that they had 1 in transit. thru another twist of great luck i put it on hold and ended up with a in box LM2 with power chord and everything :hyper: it is so nice to have a good guitar center expierence. i know what a crapshoot it can be.... i accidently worked there for a month... i should know ;)
Anyway...plugged it in to my SWR triad today and...WOW
this thing has serious ballz. I think it was brad johnson that said it could knock over a small child and I have to agree with him. I didnt even get close to having volume or gain to 12 o clock. Very transparent too. I will be taking it for a real gig test drive at wedding tommorow night. Maybe if i am lucky it will be loud enough to shake up some of the ladies if ya know what i mean:eek:
 
#358
Hello all,

I've gotta send my iAmp800 back AGAIN (can't play audio source into "stereo in") and I need a back-up for my busy gig schedule.

My current cabs are:
Eden 210XLT 8ohm
EA NL210 8ohm (newest version)
Schroeder 1210R 4ohm (original version)
Schroeder Mini12+ 4ohm (angled driver)

I'm curious if the LMKII will be good with any of these cabs.

I don't want to buy any more bass gear that I have to!!!

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Later, Kirk
 
#359
Kirk P Brosius said:
Hello all,

I've gotta send my iAmp800 back AGAIN (can't play audio source into "stereo in") and I need a back-up for my busy gig schedule.

My current cabs are:
Eden 210XLT 8ohm
EA NL210 8ohm (newest version)
Schroeder 1210R 4ohm (original version)
Schroeder Mini12+ 4ohm (angled driver)

I'm curious if the LMKII will be good with any of these cabs.

I don't want to buy any more bass gear that I have to!!!

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Later, Kirk
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IMO, if you like your iAmp800, you will LOVE the LMII. Similar deep low end extension, and sparkly highs if you want it, but much warmer mid punch, and much better control of the high treble with the vintage filter. I really like the iAmp wide voicing with the Schroeders, and the LMII works similarly well. Also, sounds GREAT with the NL-210, but mine was 4ohm. The LMII might not have enough oomph at 8ohms for that cab.

I never tried it with the XLT, but given my experience with various Schroeders (which are also quite mid present like the XLT as you know), I feel pretty good about that combination also.

And... no more need for that 'great service and support':cool: :smug: :D
 
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