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Markbass Megathread PART 2

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I use a punch factory when I use my octave pedal. Other than your playing style and taste a compressor is definately NOT needed.

I disagree here as it depends on the situation. For an amp that's on the edge of all she can give, a compressor really lets you get more out of the head by giving you the power you need on notes that are in the middle frequency ranges, and saving you from clipping your head on the lower notes. It also lets you relax and not worry about overly aggressive spikes in your playing, which can be a real factor in an emotional live setting for a head that's pushing hard already.

Bottom line, take any head that's doing all it can do, add an intelligent amount of compression, and the head can do a good bit more.
 
Also...IMO ...I hated the Markbass cabs....no definition, at least on the 210 combo I owned before returning to GC to acquire just the LM II head.
I thought the Avator cabs sounded better than MB.
MAybe I'm spoiled with my Berg & Epifani cabs.

I thought the two MB cabs i tried were also lacking something although both were Traveller versions and so very small so i can see why my UL115 blew the 151P out fo the water.

Im still trying to love my UL212. IIve had it since May and so far i have replaced both drivers and its been up for sale but i withdrew it as im going to give it another try. I really didnt think the sound was for me but i have had a couple of good gigs wth it. I find it sounds better with finger playing and im a pick player. On paper it sounded like my ideal, one cab solution and im sure it will be (along with my 1210R i use with my LMII ) But i do agree the Epi cabs work very well with the MB heads.
 
I use a punch factory when I use my octave pedal. Other than your playing style and taste a compressor is definately NOT needed.
I disagree here as it depends on the situation. For an amp that's on the edge of all she can give, a compressor really lets you get more out of the head by giving you the power you need on notes that are in the middle frequency ranges, and saving you from clipping your head on the lower notes. It also lets you relax and not worry about overly aggressive spikes in your playing, which can be a real factor in an emotional live setting for a head that's pushing hard already.

Bottom line, take any head that's doing all it can do, add an intelligent amount of compression, and the head can do a good bit more.
Actually, sounds to me like you're saying the same thing. :) At least that's the way I read "playing style and taste". How hard you play and/or push your head, IMHO, is covered by that. I know lotsa' players who don't use/need compressors. So you're both right. :D
 
That's what I thought!
I don't know. With what I'm talking about, it would require a fair amount of attention to lighten the attack on the lower notes that will put the head way over the edge, and then attack more aggressively in the middle registers to get the volume I'm after. I would prefer to just practice playing nice and evenly, and then letting the compressor kick in when needed, more like a limiter than an always-on compression. YMMV.
 
Maybe a bit off topic, but is anyone using a pedal compressor with your LMII? Do you find it necessary or is it just a matter of taste?

Thanks...Chris


I do (an Ashdown pedal), and I personally don't think it's necessary, but it's too early for me to tell if it actually helps me in the context of the band i'm in. I only recently got my LMII, and don't have an ideal full cabinet compliment yet... Just need a nice 1x15 and a few band practices and then I'll be able to tell....
 
Yeah, I caved and added that part. I usually read stuff with all the YMMV, IME, IMO included, even if it isn't, and assume most people do the same. I'm trying to start a new trend where everyone always knows that's what I mean, unless I add NIABAI, "No If's, And's or But's About It!" :D
 
Yeah, I caved and added that part. I usually read stuff with all the YMMV, IME, IMO included, even if it isn't, and assume most people do the same. I'm trying to start a new trend where everyone always knows that's what I mean, unless I add NIABAI, "No If's, And's or But's About It!" :D
LOL! I totally hear you. I just thought it was funny.

Thing is, I really do know guys who can play very dynamically and even bounce back and forth between slap/finger without a compressor online. It does take more finesse, it is difficult to do well, but it's totally do-able, and allows you to keep yer signal chain just that much simpler, which I always like. Even if I can't hear a diff, it's just nice to cut connections. :)

Obviously, however, like you're saying, there are certain dynamic things you can ONLY do if you're pushing an amp hard, and/or really beating the crap out of the strings at times... Geddy does this, and I tend to do it as well on my GL sig J. On the old passive J bass, there's just something really cool that happens with the growl when you abuse it. :D However, I also find my style changes based on the bass. I have the action pretty low on my Skjold, MTD, and Celinder in particular. There's just something about the elex in those basses that I can get everything I need without radically changing right-hand technique like that. So with my J, I like to have a compressor hooked up, but with the others, I prefer not to.

Anyway, of course I can alway go on and on, and of course YMMV (sorry, couldn't resist :D), but hopefully that's a reasonable example. :)
 
So, random thought before I drop some cash on a headphone amp/bass buddy...

If the effects loop were switched to series, would the line out be sufficient to run headphones off of, or would this be bad for anything? I'm not sure exactly what is needed to run headphones, but if this isn't going to damage the amp (or headphones) it seems to me like it would work for those late night practice sessions.
 
So, random thought before I drop some cash on a headphone amp/bass buddy...

If the effects loop were switched to series, would the line out be sufficient to run headphones off of, or would this be bad for anything? I'm not sure exactly what is needed to run headphones, but if this isn't going to damage the amp (or headphones) it seems to me like it would work for those late night practice sessions.


Well the line out is a XLR so you would need an adaptor of some sort to connect headphones but IMO it wont have enough level to drive them. You would need something else to boost the signal. And the Line out is the only way of getting a Post EQ signal out of the LMII. If you try and use the tuner or FX out it wont have any EQ on it.
I use a small mixer to boost the signal. You can pick up a Berhinger single channel mixer for next to nothing and it has XLR in and headphones out.
 
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