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Markbass Yellow Cone Blackout

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DuluthDank said:
I like the fact that Markbass is one of very few manufacturers making light weight, professional quality/featured combos these days. They probably have like 7 at any given time, whereas most manufactures have none. I'm even willing to get past the yellow. My issue is I just can't get into the voicing of their speakers/cabs. Funny thing is that I like the way other players sound in the mix with them, but it's just not a voicing I like for my own playing. I've since found that the old Genz Benz Shuttle combos scratch that itch for me, and cabs are voiced more to my liking.
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I'm with you on everything mentioned here but I wander if their cabs with black drivers are different and sound better ?

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Gervais Cote said:
More seriously, if the solvent of the marker didn't attack the material of the speaker cone, it will be fine because when evaporated, there's no solvent left.

Sound wise, I think it's okay because the extra weight the black ink added is negligible.
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Agreed. The extra weight is so small that it's not going to noticeably affect the LF response. I'd be more concerned with the top end. Adding stuff to the cone is likely to affect the higher frequencies.
 
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klyph said:
I would think the solvent used in a marker would have a more deleterious effect on a speaker cone (and the adhesives used to attach the dust cap) than a light coating which doesn't soak in. I hope I'm wrong. I understand not wanting a brightly colored speaker cab, though.
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Correct, the change in weight (moving mass) is insignificant. The issue is the binders used in the cone pulp, there are many different binders and additives used. It's probably ok, but maybe not always ok.

StephenMcLuckie said:
Agreed. The extra weight is so small that it's not going to noticeably affect the LF response. I'd be more concerned with the top end. Adding stuff to the cone is likely to affect the higher frequencies.
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It's the effect on the stiffness that might change, due to deterioration of the binders and additives of the cone pulp.

dfp said:
Speaker cone made of paper… Magic marker… I wonder how we can know what effect the magic marker will have on the… Paper… If only there were some experience we all had with magic markers… And paper… Lol
Edit. I'm predicting it won't fall apart.
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It's probably going to be ok, but speaker cones aren't made entirely of paper. There are all kinds of additives that are used along with the binders in order to control stiffness. Some of these may be broken down by solvents (including water) in paints, dyes and markers.
 
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agedhorse said:
Correct, the change in weight (moving mass) is insignificant. The issue is the binders used in the cone pulp, there are many different binders and additives used. It's probably ok, but maybe not always ok.


It's the effect on the stiffness that might change, due to deterioration of the binders and additives of the cone pulp.


It's probably going to be ok, but speaker cones aren't made entirely of paper. There are all kinds of additives that are used along with the binders in order to control stiffness. Some of these may be broken down by solvents (including water) in paints, dyes and markers.
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That kind of information is the reason why I left other people doing tests ! 👍
 
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So far I've been happy with my speaker cloth inserts, but wanted to originally go with the OP's idea. Was talked out of it here on TB and hence the cloth.
Really curious how the cab sounds now with the marker applied?
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wyleeboxer said:
So far I've been happy with my speaker cloth inserts, but wanted to originally go with the OP's idea. Was talked out of it here on TB and hence the cloth.
Really curious how the cab sounds now with the marker applied?
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I did a side by side sound comparison earlier this morning with the other identical cab that has not been blacked out yet. I could detect no sound differences at all, even with my back to them and my wife randomly switching speaker cables around. Not super scientific, but I'm confident the sound did not change in any discernible way…😊
 
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A marker suggestion would be a Sharpie Magnum. Covers a lot of area pretty efficiently.

But think carefully before darkening the cones. Markbass is as close as you can come to having OSHA approved gear.

I always wanted to take a Markbass cab and put a DeWalt badge on it.

Then people would ask if I got the free battery charger and jobsite radio in a package deal.
 
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henryjurstin13 said:
How'd you do this? Got a pictorial on another thread?
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No pictorial thread. Just ordered the cloth off Amazon, used a real strong spray adhesive like Gorilla Glue brand I think, sprayed only the inside of grill until tacky. Once cut to size and pressed in I put books inside to press cloth to grill overnight. Trimmed any excess in the morning and was good to go.
 
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Low Main said:
A marker suggestion would be a Sharpie Magnum. Covers a lot of area pretty efficiently.

But think carefully before darkening the cones. Markbass is as close as you can come to having OSHA approved gear.

I always wanted to take a Markbass cab and put a DeWalt badge on it.

Then people would ask if I got the free battery charger and jobsite radio in a package deal.
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I considered the Sharpie Magnum, but the Marks A Lot has an even wider tip than the Magnum. Plus it seemed to be "more black"…meaning less of the bluish sheen you see in black markers. But I'm sure the Sharpie would give quite similar results, however!
 
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Low Main said:
You're absolutely right about the bluish Sharpie cast. If the Marks A Lot is more to the brown side of black, I need to grab a couple of those.
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It seemed so to me…but in full disclosure, my wife says I am majorly color-blind! For all I know, the Sharpie could be less blue to other people. Once the grill is on, I'm not sure it even matters 😊
 
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