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Market Place Scam

FB Marketplace is for in person transactions only. If you're worried that you're going to get jumped at a meetup, then FB Marketplace probably isn't a good match for you. You don't need to carry cash. You can PayPal / Venmo from your phone.

I met a guy at a park and ride to give him some rack gear I wasn't using for free. I think it was a Craiglist ad, not FB. But anyways, I'm pretty sure he was carrying a handgun. I don't need a nervous Nelly with a gun to already be in a "it might be a scam" mode so I just don't do Craigs or FB any more. Reverb or TB classifieds.
 
Hello All,

I just wanted to let ya'll know about a scam I got caught on the Atlanta Market Place. Christopher Ryan Cundari (Owner of Arithmetikatl) now in Miami had a KYDD bass listed for sale.

I contacted him to buy and we made the deal. He told me as soon as I paid him he would ship the bass and send me a tracking number. Then next day he contacted me and said he did not get it out the day before but would today. After that he would not answer my phone calls, texts or email.

So after almost a week - I made a complaint thru Pay Pal and started the process. He then contacted Pay pal with a tracking number and said it was shipped. Well that tracking number was almost a month old for something he had delivered to him from New York.

He then contacted me and said it was on the way - it never arrived. I had a friend contact him to see if the bass was still available. He told them yes and he would ship it right out after payment. But it is supposed to be on the way to me?

He knew I was in Atlanta and then he contacted me to meet him for delivery in Florida, I told him I was no longer interested in the bass and please send my money back. I never heard from him again.

He was not honest with me and I have since received my payment back from Pay Pal. Nice and easy working with Pay Pal and I am glad they helped me.
Glad to hear you got your money back. Still got the Precision I got from you in 2020. It's in the center of my profile pic.
 
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My account was hacked on Facebook Marketplace. I have since closed my Facebook account and live very nicely without it. FB is a cesspool of fake news, lies, false advertising and scams. All those ads claiming to be backed by Shark Tank or Dr Oz or some celebrity are all fake. Again, I don't miss it at all. ;)
Facebook is exactly what YOU make of it. It’s a tool. You don’t blame the hammer because you hit yourself on the head with it.

You don’t friend people you don’t know, you don’t join groups without checking them out and you unfriend and unfollow people and groups you don’t like. It ain’t rocket science.

There are four ads on this page alone, don’t start in on the ads. TalkBass is flooded with them to.
 
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Yeah, the issue I'm having with FB Marketplace is people contacting me about items I have for sale saying they want it and will be by that evening to pick up and then I never hear from them again.
Since I started replying with, “just to set expectations, cash only, we meet at the local police station, no exceptions” it’s cut down on the time wasters, but you’ll never be able to screen all of them.
 
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(Don’t tell L J, this p bass is the nicest of the lot !) :woot:
Funny story about that bass.

In October of 2020 I wanted a passive American Fender PJ without the greasebucket tone circuit and with hum cancelling pups. So I bought a Satin Lake Placid Blue American Performer Precision P/J (sitting next to the P bass in my profile pic) and ordered new CTS pots, etc... as well as Aguilar's hum cancelling P/J set and replaced all the electronics down to the output jack. I had no intentions of acquiring two basses two weeks apart but...

In order to recoup some of the money I spent on that bass, I put up a 2000 American made Peavey Foundation fretless for sale here on TB. The ad was only up for a few days when @LennyJ msgd me and wanted to know if I was willing to trade bass for bass for a P Bass, a 2019 MIM that had been upgraded with a real brushed aluminum pickguard, a FCS 62 P Pup and hip shot drop tuner. The original pup and pickguard were included in the deal as well. Matter of fact the stock pickguard to this day still has the protective film on it and is stored in the case sandwiched in cardboard.

Anyway I thought I could probably sell that bass faster than the fretless, could even bump the price up so I could be talked down to the price I originally wanted for the Peavey. So I agreed to the trade. And since I only lived a couple of hours away, I grabbed my mom and took her on a road trip to get the bass in person. Plus she got dinner at one of my fav local Greek restaurants that just happened to be in the town we met up in to make the trade 😁

I got back home, plugged the bass in, and never put it up for sale. It's one of the growliest P basses I've ever heard. It's a lot of fun to dig in hard on that bass. There's just nothing not to like about the bass. I've had offers for it here on TB, but no one has managed to talk me into selling it.

Hard to believe it's been 4 and half years since that trade. It doesn't get played often, but when it does it still puts a smile on my face.
 
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Although PAyPal saved you, if I'm buying long distance I stick with eBay or Reverb, where at least I can see numbers of completed transactions and percentage of happy customers to help weed out scammers. It's not perfect -- accounts can theoretically get hijacked, etc -- but when you have someone with hundreds+ sales and a 99% track record to protect it's safer than long distance via Facebook or Craigslist.
 
The last time I did an in-person transaction was when I was on vacation with family in Hong Kong, and decided to buy something off a Hong Kong based site. I got cash, and we agreed to meet in the middle of a busy train station - it all went well. We did the transaction over the turnstiles so I didn't have to pay more to exit the station. Managed to save shipping as it came with a hard case that I was able to check in on the flight back.

Definitely meet in a busy, public area, and have an escape plan.
 
This saga takes the cake though!
 
Theres lots of scumbags out there! I try to mostly do in person transactions. The police station in my town has a designated "Internet Purchase Exchange Location" in their parking lot that is well lit and has cameras. If someone has a problem meeting me there, then for obvious reasons, I wont deal with them.

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About 20 years ago I bought a bass on eBay, everything went smoothly. About two months later I came across a listing of the bass I had just bought. Unmistakably the same bass, as it had a custom paint job and the photos were taken from the listing when I bought it. I bid $8M for the bass and the listing disappeared.
 
Theres lots of scumbags out there! I try to mostly do in person transactions. The police station in my town has a designated "Internet Purchase Exchange Location" in their parking lot that is well lit and has cameras. If someone has a problem meeting me there, then for obvious reasons, I wont deal with them.

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I live about four blocks from the police station which has a huge parking lot that is 90% empty all of the time. It’s amazing how many scammers stop contact when I tell them that’s the only place I’ll meet.
 

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