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Married men live longer then single guys

#41
hover said:
I respect the decision wholeheartedly if you recognize that about yourself, recognize as a poor candidate for parenthood or whatever, but why all the disdain towards kids? Could you not stand yourself or your little friends growing up? ;)

What flipped that switch? Just something I truly want to get insight from....I have close friends with the same mindset and they cannot seem to give an answer with any more depth than "I dont like / cannot stand"... don't know why that bothers me...not passing judgement tho, just askin.
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For me it's realizing I'm born into a debt that I would never be able to pay off and this lifestyle of ppl wanting to get hitched, spit out a bunch of kids...it's a ton of risk and expense I would find a hard time justifying when I could stand to do well for myself and potential SO.
 
#43
scorpionldr said:
For me it's realizing I'm born into a debt that I would never be able to pay off and this lifestyle of ppl wanting to get hitched, spit out a bunch of kids...it's a ton of risk and expense I would find a hard time justifying when I could stand to do well for myself and potential SO.
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Understood, and thanks for offering that. It's a lot more practical than the next guy just sayin "I hate kids"...that's a bit more perplexing to me.
 
#44
two fingers said:
I brushed my teeth this morning and didn't have a wreck on the way to work. Millions of people who brushed their teeth this morning didn't have a wreck. Thus, my "study shows" that good dental hygiene leads to safer driving. Correlation/causality problems.


I'm in my second marriage. Does that mean a knocked a few years off with the divorce but now I am adding a few years with my current happy marriage?

It's crap "science". Sats can be twisted to "prove" anything.
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Your "study" didn't compare the driving records of teeth brushers to non-teeth brushers.

Correlation may not prove causality but it doesn't mean there isn't a reason for the correlation.

hover said:
I respect the decision wholeheartedly if you recognize that about yourself, recognize as a poor candidate for parenthood or whatever, but why all the disdain towards kids? Could you not stand yourself or your little friends growing up? ;)

What flipped that switch? Just something I truly want to get insight from....I have close friends with the same mindset and they cannot seem to give an answer with any more depth than "I dont like / cannot stand"... don't know why that bothers me...not passing judgement tho, just askin.
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Not real hard to explain. It's rooted in selfishness. Children interfere with our pursuits. Ignorance and blindness play a role as well. Some people can only see the problems and not the benefits. :)
 
#46
nutdog said:
Your "study" didn't compare the driving records of teeth brushers to non-teeth brushers.

Correlation may not prove causality but it doesn't mean there isn't a reason for the correlation.



Not real hard to explain. It's rooted in selfishness. Children interfere with our pursuits. Ignorance and blindness play a role as well. Some people can only see the problems and not the benefits. :)
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Uh oh now it's the "only the negative" argument lol.
 
#47
carlthegroover said:
Personally, I don't care about this too much. I do not (personally) believe in marriage and I'd much rather prefer to live with a girlfriend than with a wife. No strings attached. I don't like to be bound at all. In fact, I do believe that anytime a couple is bored/ pissed off with each other, they should be mature enough to split and find love somewhere else. And not being married gives one the freedom to do so.

Besides, I wouldn't want to live past 50 or 60 if I'm no longer in good physical condition by that age. Even if I die at 50, I still have 20 years to make my life count and matter.

P.S. Yep, I'll say it clearly: I'm not romantic at all.
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I respect your feelings about marriage. Mine are a little different. For me my marrriage is like playing music. When I got my first guitar it was awesome every time I picked it up. I knew before long I was going to be playing like Jimi Hendrix. That was the honeymoon period. As I continued playing I realized that playing music well was going to require a lot of commitment and dedication. I have been frustated at times and wanted to toss the whole thing. As I continued to work at it things got better. It was no longer the honeymoon perion but I had a deeper understanding and enjoyment. I'm sure everyone can see the correlations to marriage here. After 39 years if co-habitation and 29 years of marriage my wife and I have a rich rewarding relationship. There have been times for each of us when we wanted to hang it up but we stuck with at and even got help from professionals and others. It has been a great journey so far and it's not over.
As far as age, I'm 60 years-old and not ready to lay down and die. In fact I would say these are the best years of my life. I am beginning to understand things a little bit now and really appreciate what I have. When I was younger it seemed like I always wanted more. I thought I understood things but realize now just how little I knew. If I live another 20 years I will probably look back on this time and feel the same way about myself.


P.S. I consider myself a hopeless romantic
 
#48
carlthegroover said:
And perhaps, a few of us (perhaps too few) willingly choose not to have children. There are just too many people, and me bringing yet another one to this world doesn't really help. I respect those who choose to reproduce, but not me. Besides, I just can't stand children to be honest.
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I love children, that's why I have adopted and foster parented. (is parented a word? :rollno:)
 
#49
my ex wife never wanted kids and is now the mother to 4 (1 that is ours) and loving it. my fiance' is the most impatient person I know and a wonderful mother to our son and my son.

what you think you want isn't always what you really want.

he's the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now.
 
#50
DwaynieAD said:
my ex wife never wanted kids and is now the mother to 4 (1 that is ours) and loving it. my fiance' is the most impatient person I know and a wonderful mother to our son and my son.

what you think you want isn't always what you really want.

he's the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now.
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I'm the dude, man, so that's what you call me; that or his dudeness or el duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing....
 
#51
hover said:
Understood, and thanks for offering that. It's a lot more practical than the next guy just sayin "I hate kids"...that's a bit more perplexing to me.
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For me, its about not wanting the responsibilty at this time in my life.
I havent exactly had things easy, and Id really prefer not to complicate my life with more responsibilty. The time will come, Im sure, when I will want a kid, but not any time soon, thats for sure.
 
#52
MatticusMania said:
For me, its about not wanting the responsibilty at this time in my life.
I havent exactly had things easy, and Id really prefer not to complicate my life with more responsibilty. The time will come, Im sure, when I will want a kid, but not any time soon, thats for sure.
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What sort of number (age) you thinking? Lately girls seem to begin talking to me and asking how soon I wanna start raw-dogging it for children...

I usually tell them that's outside my security clearance levels.
 
#53
Ziltoid said:
A recent sociology study also showed that men who do more cleaning around the house don't get laid as much.
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I saw that, and commented on it. There's plenty of other studies that show married men get more than single guys, so it's just a comparison of chores-laden married guys with chores-shirking married guys.

My take on it is this: if the guy has taken on a higher share of the traditionally "female" chores, 99% of the time it's because it's a two-income family (and they're probably also raising kids). They both have to work long days and then the cooking and cleaning has to happen and by the end of the day they're too tired for oingo boingo.

If the woman is still doing all of the "female" chores, it's because they can afford for her to stay home and do them over the course of the day. Hubby comes home to dinner on the table and a clean house and doesn't need to worry about pitching in. Plenty of energy left for the evening...
 
#54
hrodbert696 said:
I saw that, and commented on it. There's plenty of other studies that show married men get more than single guys, so it's just a comparison of chores-laden married guys with chores-shirking married guys.

My take on it is this: if the guy has taken on a higher share of the traditionally "female" chores, 99% of the time it's because it's a two-income family (and they're probably also raising kids). They both have to work long days and then the cooking and cleaning has to happen and by the end of the day they're too tired for oingo boingo.

If the woman is still doing all of the "female" chores, it's because they can afford for her to stay home and do them over the course of the day. Hubby comes home to dinner on the table and a clean house and doesn't need to worry about pitching in. Plenty of energy left for the evening...
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Shhh, everybody knows correlation implies causation. :ninja:
 
#56
two fingers said:
I'm in my second marriage. Does that mean a knocked a few years off with the divorce but now I am adding a few years with my current happy marriage?
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Sounds good to me! I'm getting married (2nd time) on Valentine's Day!
carlthegroover said:
Besides, I just can't stand children to be honest.
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I used to be that guy. When you have your own, it's different.
 

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