maybe fodera?

[momo]

I thought "Working Man" was recorded when he was still using the P (first record).

 

[bassophile]

Go to [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and listen clips from various basses, fodera is incl. IMO fodera doesn't sound any better from other basses! Take a look! I agree that playing is a great factor of sound!

 

[Christian Houmann]

Go to [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] and listen clips from various basses, fodera is incl. IMO fodera doesn't sound any better from other basses! Take a look! I agree that playing is a great factor of sound!

I have olso tried Fender basses that really sucks but that means not that all Fender basses are bad. I think mine Fodera's beats all other basses that I have played. Still I would say that Fodera isn't for anyone.

But Fodera for me

-Christian

 

[Brad Johnson]

It is in his fingers, I agree. But, Tom Kennedy can not make a ric sound like a hondo, or a hondo sound like a ric. If he can I want to have his magical bass powers.

Tom K will sound like himself on anything, but it will not change the nature of the construction and electronics of the bass.

Invariably whenever this subject comes up, people will go to extremes to supposedly prove a point:

"Well, would he still sound the same if he were playing a mop?".

The easiest way to get Vic's sound is to get Vic's exact set up... and then get Vic. Anything else, all bets are off.

I have no doubt Vic could take the OP's Ibanez, set it up and string it like he wants, do whatever he needed to do EQ-wise with the amp, sit behind a curtain and play... and most would swear he was playing his main bass.

By the same token, that doesn't mean that there isn't something about his basses that "Vic" appreciates and that motivates him to play as he does.

As long as the instrument and rig is in the general ballpark tonally, I wouldn't bet that I could automatically tell. One of the more frustrating aspects of bass playing for many is the realization that buying the exact same rig as a player probably does slightly more than buying the same sunglasses you saw them with as far as nailing their sound.

You do have a better chance if they're primarily known for a heavily effected sound. Neither Tom nor Vic are.

I took one of my fretlesses to a local store on last Saturday. Going through the same rig, just handing it to four other guys, the bass sounded very different in each of our hands. The ONLY change was the player. Seen it a ton of times.

 

[bassophile]

I have olso tried Fender basses that really sucks but that means not that all Fender basses are bad. I think mine Fodera's beats all other basses that I have played. Still I would say that Fodera isn't for anyone.

But Fodera for me

-Christian

I totally agree with you! I also think that G&L L2500 and Fender jazz bass '77 are best basses I've played! I play many genres of music and I get whole set of tones with these two!


Good work!

 

[Fuzzbass]

I thought "Working Man" was recorded when he was still using the P (first record).

(Not to hijack, but) I don't think the P-bass was the only bass used on the 1st album. I don't recall the other songs, but the tone on "Working Man" (it still gets airplay on classic rock radio) sounds like dirty Ric to my ears.

Maybe I'm wrong... if so, maybe this simply proves that one bass can be made to sound like another. And that's true to a certain extent, as Brad said. I once saw someone nail Justin Chancellor's Wal tone using a Ken Smith Burner and a rack rig.

 

[ii-v]

Invariably whenever this subject comes up, people will go to extremes to supposedly prove a point:

"Well, would he still sound the same if he were playing a mop?".

The easiest way to get Vic's sound is to get Vic's exact set up... and then get Vic. Anything else, all bets are off.

I have no doubt Vic could take the OP's Ibanez, set it up and string it like he wants, do whatever he needed to do EQ-wise with the amp, sit behind a curtain and play... and most would swear he was playing his main bass.

By the same token, that doesn't mean that there isn't something about his basses that "Vic" appreciates and that motivates him to play as he does.

As long as the instrument and rig is in the general ballpark tonally, I wouldn't bet that I could automatically tell. One of the more frustrating aspects of bass playing for many is the realization that buying the exact same rig as a player probably does slightly more than buying the same sunglasses you saw them with as far as nailing their sound.

You do have a better chance if they're primarily known for a heavily effected sound. Neither Tom nor Vic are.

I took one of my fretlesses to a local store on last Saturday. Going through the same rig, just handing it to four other guys, the bass sounded very different in each of our hands. The ONLY change was the player. Seen it a ton of times.

I am not sure how I was supposed to take this. I did give extremes because I believe it would be harder to tell the closer you got in quality (or more specifically the same electronics and pups). A flexible preamp allows you to dial in several tones and a flexible rig gives you even more options.

As I stated I think fingers are the number one factor. Perhaps I wasn't aware of the point I was trying to make according to you. But let me specify my exact point. Fingers are the number one factor and someones style or fingerprint would be recognized regardless of what instrument they play on. I am sorry to say there would be a tonal difference between each instrument though. I have owned several basses and while I still sound like myself (style, fingerprint) I recognize the basses do not sound the same. Regardless of how close in quality the instuments are. I personally do not buy into the idea of going and getting someone elses tone and I don't begrudge anyone who would like to do it. I set my basses up and if they happen to sound similar to someone it means I have similar tastes. I hope this does not bother anyone that I hear a difference when a musician switches basses live or in the studio, but I am not going to apologize for it either.

 

[Pan]

Crazy theory .. you play a fender for a few years and get good . . then you get a Fodera and it allows you to do more stuff and faster cos it's so well made .. then you go back to the Fender and voila! - you can play the new stuff on the Fender too. Believe it or not??

 

[bassophile]

Crazy theory .. you play a fender for a few years and get good . . then you get a Fodera and it allows you to do more stuff and faster cos it's so well made .. then you go back to the Fender and voila! - you can play the new stuff on the Fender too. Believe it or not??

I experienced that and I think it's due to psyhological factors! It's very important to relax all muscles that are not needed for playing. When you switch from chunky bass to top made bass (which does not mean that it's better), you feel more comfortable during time and you unconsiousnessly relax those "unwanted" muscles which prevent "wanted" muscles to do what they should do in right way. When you switch back to chunky bass after some days, you are already relaxed and playing is better! So if you practice your mind to relax, you can achieve top technique at any bass!