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Maybe it's just me...

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Hoolicat. Your first post was 8-11 where you said you were new to bass. You have to realize there are hundreds of guys here from all levels of experience. Many are well experienced pros and semi- pros and many more very serious intermediates from all genres. You sort of went into a pro ball locker romm and yelled baseball is for sissys! LOL.

It's not a crime to be young but respect goes a long way....

Good luck with your playing. :)
 
you have been playing two years huh? Thats funny cause here is your post from not even six months ago.... you can BS but you can't BS a BS'er.... and haha....

#1 08-11-2010, 11:33 AM
Hoolicatt
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010

New, new to bass

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Hey there, I'm new to these forums, and to the bass. I wanted to play bass for years, but just never had the extra money laying around to get set up. I recently got a ESP LTD B-50 at auction for $70, and loaded her with some Ernie Ball Power Slinky bass strings. From what I've read, the B-50 is a pretty good starter bass. :smug:

OOPS ... :eyebrow:
 
I don't love Fender either, but that is because A) I don't like how they fit me, and B) I don't like how they look. I like the way a J sounds (when wielded by particular individuals). If they felt a lot better, I wouldn't mind the look as much. But every time I play one, my hands cramp up.

The fact is, there are just better instruments for me to be playing...like ones that don't make me want to stop playing.
 
I also NEVER had a Fender of any kind in my house, does that make me a bad guy, a terrible musician, or ignorant because I wont buy one ever?... to some probably so...to others probably not... I also get tired of the "you don't know what your missing unless you own and play a Fender" and "so-and-so from xxxx-band plays one and to be like him, you HAVE to play one" attitude your gonna get from the Fender-Fan-Boys, but fortunately after 30-40 years of companies making alternatives, there is no NEED for me to flash a Fender Badge in my monthly gigs to prove something to somebody when all my other units have never let me down.

in a debate like this, it's a 50-50 shot your gonna get flamed, or real reasons some folks do not like Fenders the same as anyone starting a thread why the OP's reasons he/she does not like that particular brand. Go into the xxx club and say the same thing you did here, and you'll get the same replies from the XXX-fans.
 
You know the cool thing about opinions? Especially online, you can keep them to yourself. Obviously you have noted there are a lot of people who dig fenders as with your title "maybe it's just me..." so when did the thought of "hey this is a good idea" to post a thread calling basses that so many people own ugly,and crappy cross your mind?

Funny you could say a fender sounds bad when you have an ESP B-50 which has a PRECISION and JAZZ pickup in it.

Probably don't like/understand fenders because you've never played them in a band.
 
^ Exactly this, There are quite few basses out that that i think are fugly but I'll keep that to myself because that is just the way I was brought up by my parents.... "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"..... it's ok to not like some big t*ttied, crooked teeth, walks with a limp over weight woman, just don't tell her 6' 7" 355 lbs. boyfriend that she is ugly.... get the point?
 
Personally I think the fender fans hear are taking this all to seriously. I feel like just doesnt want to feel on his own, thats a perfectly valid feeling to have, were all human. and I'm going to second him, fenders are kind of ugly. More to the point I think there shape is unimpressive and for me there are basses that are much more comfortable.
As far as sound goes, I have found the sound I wanted in cheaper basses, thats just preference, though if I were playing more jazz in my band I would want a fender jazz fretless.

Good thread. thanks Hoolicat for being brave
 
You know the cool thing about opinions? Especially online, you can keep them to yourself. Obviously you have noted there are a lot of people who dig fenders as with your title "maybe it's just me..." so when did the thought of "hey this is a good idea" to post a thread calling basses that so many people own ugly,and crappy?

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My point exactly. It just seemed that the thread was made to get the Fender fans off their asses.

I don't see the reason for saying what you don't like. That isn't very useful.

I say we could all tell each other what instruments we enjoy.

If OP wanted to find others that feel like him he could start a thread that salutes ESP basses. That might inspire others to try instead of start defending Fender.

This is after all a forum for bassists. We should be sharing knowledge that will benefit each other.

Just my opinion.
 
you have been playing two years huh? Thats funny cause here is your post from not even six months ago.... you can BS but you can't BS a BS'er.... and haha....

#1 08-11-2010, 11:33 AM
Hoolicatt
Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010

New, new to bass

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Hey there, I'm new to these forums, and to the bass. I wanted to play bass for years, but just never had the extra money laying around to get set up. I recently got a ESP LTD B-50 at auction for $70, and loaded her with some Ernie Ball Power Slinky bass strings. From what I've read, the B-50 is a pretty good starter bass. :smug:

Why hasn't OP responded to getting crushed by this??
 
Well, whatever rocks your boat OP, personally I hate the looks of the basses you seem to love. I hate those modern sharp contours and finishes. It's only (mostly) vintage Fender for me. Same with the sound. Only passive P or J.

And about your soft rock/pop reference: the basses you choose are far more pop to me, since they were the big thing back with the "wedding bands" & "pop crap cover trash bands" since the 80s.
 
As for the "trolling" accusation: I assure you, I am indeed serious about my dislike for Fender. Someone also claimed that by not loving Fender, that I don't love most music. I find that statement pretty silly, but hey, whatever.

If your main problem with them is their sound, you must must not like the sound of the bass on ~90% (conservativley) of recordings. Easily that many recordings are played on SOME kind of Fender bass. I can understand the aesthetics, feel, etc. But the sound? Very nearly every pickup system on the planet emulates some kind of Fender. Even ESP/Ibanez soapbars and the like. If you hate the sound of Fenders as a brand, I don't understand how you can enjoy the sound of any bass.
 
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