yea, my velcro started coming off the "innertube" pretty soon after I bought it-the adhesive they use must not be great. I just super-glued it back on, and haven't had any problems since.
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Double Bass MBOL achieved-for $1000 or less
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yea, my velcro started coming off the "innertube" pretty soon after I bought it-the adhesive they use must not be great. I just super-glued it back on, and haven't had any problems since.
I agree the fastening system should be improved. As I mentioned to John Littler (of Headway) in my note to him, I take The BAND on and off every time I use it since the 1/4 inch jack is right in the back of the bass and would damage the bass when lying on its back - which is how it goes in my car.
That gives me and idea, if the jack could be relocated to be in the treble side C bout, I could leave the BAND on AND I wouldn't be hitting it with my left knee as I do now (I sit on a stool when playing).
YES!
On the Para Driver...I got it here, first impression, it really is upright friendly!
EDIT: NO! Not reliable.
Since posting only a couple of months ago, the Empress took a dump. Weak point with this company is that they don't produce a proprietary 18v 400mv power supply, imo. I chose one from their list of approved supplys.
The on/off switches go haywire, the low eq died on mine. And it sounds like the mid eq is self sweeping. Bizzare! Great sounding unit when it functioned, but now it's in a box waiting to be returned to Empress. We'll see how long it takes for customer service to get back to me.
On to Radial Deluxe PZ next.
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Hmmm, it would work but I'm not sure how it could be securely fixed to the plastic/rubbery surface of the band.
I tried the band in the bridge position and blended with the ehrlund at rehearsal last night. I like it. It's a little brighter than the EAP but not too nasal. They work well together. I'll always prefer the troll blended in but for louder situations I think it's a winner.
You should probably use a cam-strap contraption instead of a belt. That way you can get as much tension as you'd like (maybe even too much).
I'm thinking that the only way to use a cam style strap is to dismantle the band, attach the pick ups and re-wire it around the strap.
GETTING A GOOD GIG RECORDING.
I frequently record my gigs (for my own listening pleasure - and critiquing). Last night I tried something different for the first time that seems to have worked quite well. I put my H4N recorder right above the guitarist's amp - which also picked up the drums behind him. It also picked up a little of my 'live sound' which is a Lifeline thru a GB 3.0 8t. Next, I ran my ATM350 thru my EDB-2 (just for HPF, no EQ added) and from the the DI to the recorder and my BAND pickup direct to the other mic channel. I boosted the gain on the mic so the bass is mostly mic with a little BAND in the other channel which seems to give a lot more 'presence' than making the mic go mono.
Anyhoo, if you followed all that here is a recording from last nights gig. PS. the 'live sound' was good too, but I think this is the best gig-recording sound I have gotten yet.
I frequently record my gigs (for my own listening pleasure - and critiquing). Last night I tried something different for the first time that seems to have worked quite well. I put my H4N recorder right above the guitarist's amp - which also picked up the drums behind him. It also picked up a little of my 'live sound' which is a Lifeline thru a GB 3.0 8t. Next, I ran my ATM350 thru my EDB-2 (just for HPF, no EQ added) and from the the DI to the recorder and my BAND pickup direct to the other mic channel. I boosted the gain on the mic so the bass is mostly mic with a little BAND in the other channel which seems to give a lot more 'presence' than making the mic go mono.
Anyhoo, if you followed all that here is a recording from last nights gig. PS. the 'live sound' was good too, but I think this is the best gig-recording sound I have gotten yet.
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What I've actually done is remove the original Velcro and replace it with high-strength stuff from the hardware store, attached with Krazy Glue. Seems to be holding up.
Also, sorry all for not having done any recordings yet, I actually broke my left thumb about six weeks ago, and as you would expect it has prevented me from doing any playing. once I am playing again and back in shape I will put something up.
Sorry to hear about your accident. IN time it would be nice to hear what you come up with regarding The Band.
Actually, since my EDB-2 was stolen, I've been using a 3Leaf Audio Enabler. It dosen't have the finess and EQ capabilities of the EDB-2 but it sounds very good.
Unfortunately, it was discontinued.
Ric
Sorry to hear you lost some gear..hopefully not any WW's or basses. :-(
The 3 Leaf looked promising when I last checked it out. The two Headways I purchased online arrived with dead batteries, and were both pretty noisy with the power supply. I think they must of been factory seconds or something. Anyway, after that I gave up on Headway preamps.
The Radial stuff looks promising, there are tons of them out there. Weird power supply, but the layout of the PZ Deluxe is so simple, it appeals to me. Plus they are built like tanks. if it's a go, i'll just carry an extra Radial wall wart to be safe.
My druthers would be to have a new version of my old TC Para Eq pedals. They sound so good, even being 25+ years old. I'm using one in the interim for now.
The 3 Leaf looked promising when I last checked it out. The two Headways I purchased online arrived with dead batteries, and were both pretty noisy with the power supply. I think they must of been factory seconds or something. Anyway, after that I gave up on Headway preamps.
The Radial stuff looks promising, there are tons of them out there. Weird power supply, but the layout of the PZ Deluxe is so simple, it appeals to me. Plus they are built like tanks. if it's a go, i'll just carry an extra Radial wall wart to be safe.
My druthers would be to have a new version of my old TC Para Eq pedals. They sound so good, even being 25+ years old. I'm using one in the interim for now.
Wait, I'm confused. When you say not reliable do you mean the para or the Empress? Or both?
Arggh, my bad. I meant the Empress Para EQ. The sans amp para drive is a nice unit. I wouldn't choose it over the Empress for fundamental sound fidelity though. It's built like a tank, controls clearly laid out, only problem I've had so far is deciding how to "set and forget" with it.
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I got a V2112 recently, and my experience has mirrored yours. At this point I am looking at less than $500 into amp, pickup, and preamp (both the latter are Fishman). The V2112 is actually too loud for some of the rooms I play. In those venues we put vocals + keys through a small powered Yamaha speaker and I am unamplified.
It's nice to have the tilt back capability of the Harbinger at bigger venues. I can use it as a personal monitor and mix a feed from my preamp with one from FOH - I like to be above the rest of the mix to hear better.
Mr.PC,
Fortunately, they only got the EDB-2, two Fishman Asterope cables, and a Eurlund Pre. Not exactly chicken feed but it could have been a lot worse. I'm looking at the Grace Designs Felix now, I want something that can be repaired stateside.
Ric
An update to this thread, I just got an Aguilar TH 500 that I played on my Piano trio, and I have to say I'm really impressed. Without the Sans-amp, I wouldn't say it's quite MBOL, but it has a great 70's Ron-Carter sound to it. I'm not a huge fan of pairing it with the sans-amp if i run it into the main input of the Aguilar, BUT if I run it into the effects return (essentially by-passing the Aguilar Pre-amp) It sounds amazing, even better than the GK IMO. Now, the Band+TH+sansamp+EX112 is more that $1000 if you bought everything new ($1,450, roughly), if you go used one could conceivably put together that rig for less than $1k.
I really want to thank Matt for this post. A while back, after reading this post, I picked up a Sansamp Para DI used for a good price. My working sound chain is now much like his: Fishman Full Cirlcle—>FDeck HPF-Pre 2—>Sansamp Para DI—>GK MB200—>Fearless F112. The difference with the Sansamp is night and day: much less honkiness and a kind of enveloping warmth to the sound that I'm really enjoying. I do have the FDeck in and swear by it. For most of my gigs it rides shotgun in my bow quiver (its better than having my bow there, ask anyone) and gives me a local volume/phase control which I like. But that Sansamp...atta boy, Matt!
Matt,
Quite a challenge indeed, I have MYBOL, but I've been thinking about what one could do to come up with a reasonably priced blender, pickup and microphone. So, here's what I've come up with.
The new MSP pickup, provided it works well on your bass, has a very natural sound, not quite as nice as the Ehrlund EAP, but certianly nicer than a wing slot piezo and it's current price is about $100.00.
A Ovid TBone mini condenser similar in design to the DPA 4099B and newer 4099 Dvote. is @ $150.00 from Thomann music in europe.
The Yamaha MG0SX Two Channel mini mixer, provides 48volt Phantom for the Ovid TBone, and 1 meghom inputs. $119.00
So for around $370.00 and change you have a mic, pickup, and pre amp blender that you can plug into any existing amplifler.
Ric
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