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Meatbox VS Hulk

Apr 19, 2001
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Beta tester Source Audio, demos/reviews of many others
I’ve read a lot about the Hulk but never took the plunge. I happened to come across a sale this past week and got a killer deal on one. Meanwhile I’ve been using the Meatbox ever since it was rereleased.

It inspired me to do a VS video comparing the two since they are almost always both in the same sentence as the other.

Watch the video to compare for yourself, obviously use proper speakers or headphones with low drivers.



My takeaway, they essentially are the same concept, and sound very similar because they accomplish the same thing. The Meatbox is definitely more aggressive sounding with the ‘fizzy’ buzz being more prominent. The Hulk sounds a lot more smoother, less fizz but the low end just as massive. It seems the input gain these pedals are driving the rest of the circuits with are different. It seems like the Meatbox pushes it much higher and that’s what gives it the more aggressive tone. The drawback is that the notes themselves tend to have an abrupt ‘clipping’ feel to the very start of the triggering. This becomes very exaggerated in a large room with subs. The Hulk doesn’t crank the input as high so it definitely sounds more natural as far as playing ‘feel’ is concerned.

Out of the two it’s really hard to pick a winner. Meatbox will always have nostalgia for me since it’s the first pedal I played that was in this area, but I think overall the Hulk wins. The Hulk is still in production, so it’s much cheaper and easier to actually get one. The footseitch itself is difficult to press on the Meatbox. The Hulk still has separate output jacks if you want to separate the sub bass, the Meatbox has a TRS output, but requires a Y cable to use. Sound wise the Hulk wins mainly because it has a more natural and musical feel to it, the Meatbox really can sound choppy which is one of the things that’s bothered me about it over the years.
 
I actually prefer the tone of the old meatbox over either. The new ones sound cleaner (if thats technically better, then fine). I returned the new one because i found it gave a more distorted and more focused tone than the original. When I read that DOD had found the surplus IC chips, I had assumed that they would simply copy the old circuit. Judging by my ears only, it seems thats its not exactly the same. I can't really explain it, but listening to your samples in the video, I can kinda say that the original sounds like a mix of the hulk and DOD reissue. It makes sense, its the source of inspiration for these two. Plus, the original has the cut of beef paint job and blackfly stickers.
 
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I actually prefer the tone of the old meatbox over either. The new ones sound cleaner (if thats technically better, then fine). I returned the new one because i found it gave a more distorted and more focused tone than the original. When I read that DOD had found the surplus IC chips, I had assumed that they would simply copy the old circuit. Judging by my ears only, it seems thats its not exactly the same. I can't really explain it, but listening to your samples in the video, I can kinda say that the original sounds like a mix of the hulk and DOD reissue. It makes sense, its the source of inspiration for these two. Plus, the original has the cut of beef paint job and blackfly stickers.
So, in consequence you need both and run one into the other.
Yes?
 
Tried a Meatbox once, it was completely unusable for my needs and its easy to see how it got its nickname "speaker killer"...Good review, makes me want to try a Hulk. Mantic makes good stuff, I really like the Vitriol.
Rock on.
 
I really like the Meatbox RI but I find it is something that needs to be set up and tweaked at each venue (going through PA with decent subs) in order to work well. If there is no time to sound check and find the right setting then it can do more harm than good.
 
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I really like the Meatbox RI but I find it is something that needs to be set up and tweaked at each venue (going through PA with decent subs) in order to work well. If there is no time to sound check and find the right setting then it can do more harm than good.

Not surprising. Though I DI, I have a number of effects I use. Often sound engineers aren't all that keen on hearing the variety of tones I'll be using in the set, though They're happy to hear what our guitarist may be using. That may be problematic if you're going super low OR high. Often times an engineer may take your sound and apply low or high pass filters that may sink your boat with some of your sounds. In my case, I don't need sub-extension, but I may want frequencies above 700hz represented by the PA (either synth or the Mantic Flex Pro which does generate higher frequency content.

In fact, at Saturday's festival gig I was working to dial in a few things during check (after FOH had quickly line checked me) and the sound engineer made a comment on the talkback saying "I'm very nervous about some of the sounds I'm hearing on stage...are those intentional or does one of us have something malfunctioning."

It was intentional. I was balancing the signal on my Mantic Flex-Pro for possible use during the set.
 
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kind of off topic:
I have been wondering...are there options with mantic in how the leds are mounted?
i strongly dislike how these protruding rim things look.
Shallow i know, but these give mantic effects‘ pedals look a distinct diy/ cheap-ish feel - imho.