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MEGA THREAD:: Favorite/Best Punk Bassist

Oh man, Ron the Ripper is the best punk bassist ever (if you call Crime punk, which you should, against Crime's own wishes.) He sounds to me like Felix Pappalardi on speed (or even more speed...).

He plays these insane Bach sounding countermelodies fast and tight on a gibson, like he's trying to squeeze his little masterpieces in to the songs and playing them fast and loud enough that they don't lose their hardness and punk credibility.
 
Jumbotron said:
Interesting that pretty much all these examples are from classic punk/hardcore bands. Pop-punk, not so much.

Pop punk isn't punk. It's pop. I so sick of bands like simple plan and that band with the 2 gay twin brothers being labeled punk. That whole subgenre should just be called pop being played by goofs playing dress up. Just because you have spikey haire and a wrist bands doesn't mean you are a punk. Songs about your girlfriend dumping you and appearing in movies with the Olson's(Simple Plan) are not punk rock things to do. I wish these types of bands would just admit they are what they are. There's going to be a whole generation of kids that think Gotti hair, wrist bands, eyeliner and whinning are punk rock.
 
CHILDISHGAMBINO said:
Pop punk isn't punk. It's pop. I so sick of bands like simple plan and that band with the 2 gay twin brothers being labeled punk. That whole subgenre should just be called pop being played by goofs playing dress up. Just because you have spikey haire and a wrist bands doesn't mean you are a punk. Songs about your girlfriend dumping you and appearing in movies with the Olson's(Simple Plan) are not punk rock things to do. I wish these types of bands would just admit they are what they are. There's going to be a whole generation of kids that think Gotti hair, wrist bands, eyeliner and whinning are punk rock.



I'm sure that's what everyone thought of the Ramones. They dressed goofy, and wrote some of the most mindless punk ever.


Rock rock, rock and roll high school.
 
The guy who played in Moss Icon (forget his name) is pretty good, a little undisciplined, but he was only like 16 at the time.

Marko Pezzati (Naked Raygun)
Craig Bell (Rocket from the Tomb)
And Fifteen/Crimpshrine always had fun basslines. I'm sure Mike Dirnt's bit/borrowed a few of their lines.
 
Matt Till said:
I'm sure that's what everyone thought of the Ramones. They dressed goofy, and wrote some of the most mindless punk ever.


Rock rock, rock and roll high school.

heh but you gotta give the Ramones credit for having catchy, simple and energetic songs.

alot of punk is thoguht of "easy" because generally it is, but i feel its meant to be. i love it like that, for example: say you find a song, and you dont really like it, but theres 1 part in it you think totally kicks ass. for me, punk rock is that part of the song, for the entire song. that can be 2 sided though, but it happens to work out great for me. make sense? hope so!

im really into Black Flag, Minor Threat, Exploited, Misfits, Ramones, Unseen, Bad Religion('specially there 80's ****), etc...
 
Matt Till said:
I'm sure that's what everyone thought of the Ramones. They dressed goofy, and wrote some of the most mindless punk ever.


Rock rock, rock and roll high school.


I don't see how Rock N' Roll High School is mindless.

Not their best lyrics ever, but certainly not mindless.

They were just singing what they knew, and they came up with alot of great songs/lyrics.
 
Dincrest said:
Among the newer punk bands, I think Rise Against are good, and their bassist does some tasty fills every once in a while.

I haven't listened to that much Rise Against, but his last band, 88 Fingers Louie, was one of my favorites in high school. One of the tracks on their "comeback" disc, "Back on the Streets" has a really tasty bass solo that I always thought beat out "Maxwell Murder" for best punk bass solo (though, I never liked MM much). Can't remember what track it is, but the whole album is pretty good. I would reccommend picking it up.
 
Hunter from AFI and Matt Freeman of Operation Ivy/Rancid are two "shredders" who can rip and create tasty basslines. Randy Bradbury of Pennywise is also very talented. Jay Bentley of Bad Religion is a terrific player nowadays, especially on BR's last couple albums. There are some slower, ballad-ey songs where he plays lines I wish I could write.
 
Pop-punk bassist, checking in.

Guess what, it IS lame. And we do totally do play dress-up for shows. And guess what, it SELLS. And we have...gasp...FUN with it. I might even go see us. It's a show, it's a performance. Dressing up and acting a certain way are merely job requirements. You play the role, you get the paycheck. Music is art, yeah, but if your music can help pay the bills, so what if you have to sacrifice some of the art. It's only a job, right? And it's better than flippin burgers.

The Dead Kennedys, or any Real punk band would laugh and/or cry if they heard us. But a good pop punk band is not Trying to be the DK or Black Flag etc. Whole different thing.

And guess what else. My jazz gigs require me to dress up, too. and sometimes that's pretty lame.... to play a luncheon and play Girl From Ipanema and Satin Doll and every other played-to-death jazz tune. But again, it's a gig, and you do it, and you stick to the genre you're supposed to play and it's fine.

What I am saying is there is lameness in many genres. As a jazz composer and double bassist who would rather have DIED than used a pick a year ago, I'm going to go out on my limb and say...

...playing in a pop-punk band has actually made me a better bassist and better musician.